Monsters (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]

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I'd buy that for a dollar...
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Release date: January 8th, 2018
Purchase link: Zavvi (Pre-order will be live around 6pm UK time on Sunday 3rd December)
Price: £15.99

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Really? LOL. A re-release of this is not needed. I can see this hitting 7.99 shortly after release.
I would say compared to other re-releases this is probably one that was due .... been quite the number of years since the first 2. First 2 are great, and im fine with those 2. This is nice tho.
 
What do you think?

What do I think?

I think... meh. Engaging movie and worth a watch or two, but....

- Lots of real estate wasted on black ink
- Spoiler on both front and back is not ideal
- Inside right side is lazy and useless
- I'm totally bored with Zavvi beyond all reason. Haven't bought from Zavvi in over 2 years. They remained extremely lazy and have not adapted to the current steelbook market. Plain Jane steelbooks with no goodies and no slip are OLD SCHOOL now. Maybe 3 years ago, I would've been all about this. But not now.

I agree that this will go down to half price. Zavvi cannot sell these like they used to.

Fair enough?
 
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What do I think?

I think... meh. Engaging movie and worth a watch or two, but....

- Lots of real estate wasted on black ink
- Spoiler on both front and back is not ideal
- Inside right side is lazy and useless
- I'm totally bored with Zavvi beyond all reason. Haven't bought from Zavvi in over 2 years. They remained extremely lazy and have not adapted to the current steelbook market. Plain Jane steelbooks with no goodies and no slip are OLD SCHOOL now. Maybe 3 years ago, I would've been all about this. But not now.

I agree that this will go down to half price. Zavvi cannot sell these like they used to.

Fair enough?

Does Zavvi have a hand in choosing the artworks for the steelbooks? I believe they are just the retailers who releases them exclusively in the UK.

I agree the artwork is not enoight to entice me. No pop for me. Even at half price I would not pick this up.
 
What do I think?

I think... meh. Engaging movie and worth a watch or two, but....

- Lots of real estate wasted on black ink
- Spoiler on both front and back is not ideal
- Inside right side is lazy and useless
- I'm totally bored with Zavvi beyond all reason. Haven't bought from Zavvi in over 2 years. They remained extremely lazy and have not adapted to the current steelbook market. Plain Jane steelbooks with no goodies and no slip are OLD SCHOOL now. Maybe 3 years ago, I would've been all about this. But not now.

I agree that this will go down to half price. Zavvi cannot sell these like they used to.

Fair enough?
Zavvi have not done any artwork design of any steelbook releases not a single one you do know this don't you :whistle:
All artwork design is by the film studios/distributors

Zavvi are only a on-line retailer owned by the hut group and just sell products designed and made by other companies

Zavvi get offered releases to sell by the film distributors and some of these they get as UK exclusive for period of time but a lot of these same steelbooks also get a release in various countries in europe with some been released in europe before UK
Some of the stock they receive after initially selling out in the UK is stock from the european releases from the distributors as in stock not sold.

Some releases a small number Zavvi had given suggestions in regards to artwork as in designed artwork already owned by the film studios but Zavvi don't do any artwork design themselves.

Most steelbook releases now are shared print runs across europe with Zavvi just getting exclusive for the UK with the same steelbook released at various stages before or after UK release
 
Zavvi have not done any artwork design of any steelbook releases not a single one you do know this don't you :whistle:
All artwork design is by the film studios/distributors

Zavvi are only a on-line retailer owned by the hut group and just sell products designed and made by other companies

Zavvi get offered releases to sell by the film distributors and some of these they get as UK exclusive for period of time but a lot of these same steelbooks also get a release in various countries in europe with some been released in europe before UK
Some of the stock they receive after initially selling out in the UK is stock from the european releases from the distributors as in stock not sold.

Some releases a small number Zavvi had given suggestions in regards to artwork as in designed artwork already owned by the film studios but Zavvi don't do any artwork design themselves.

Most steelbook releases now are shared print runs across europe with Zavvi just getting exclusive for the UK with the same steelbook released at various stages before or after UK release

I understand what role Zavvi plays as the UK retailer. Been in this game for years.

I also understand that they make no effort to offer premium releases like many of the other retailers that I buy from.

As the landscape of the steelbook market changed drastically over the past 2-3 years, I have become very uninterested in Zavvi's offerings.
 
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I understand what role Zavvi plays as the UK retailer. Been in this game for years.

I also understand that they make no effort to offer premium releases like many of the other retailers that I buy from.

As the landscape of the steelbook market changed drastically over the past 2-3 years, I have become very uninterested in Zavvi's offerings.

You are evidently not a fan of steelbooks in general and are more a fan of fancy packaging and related ephemera such as slipcases and Artcards that in truth have absolutely nothing to do with steelbooks and are but items designed to gild the lily and allow the retailers to ask obscene amounts of money for.
If it's steelbooks you're after you won't find a better selection than the UK with everything from Disney embossed to classy Arrow and Eureka steels and everything in between and I can assure you, having been in the game since the start, that there are countless first class steelbooks out there . . . and you won't have to mortgage your house to buy them.

Apart from that - and I'm sure it's been mentioned before - it's not Zavvi's or Amazon's or HMV's remit to sell steelbooks with fancy slipcovers or multiples of the same steelbooks in doorstop boxes. That "gap in the market" has been filled by others and, yes, some (certainly not all) do look very nice and as they are produced in the hundreds instead of the thousands should be very collectable and appreciate in value even if opened.

Zavvi and the others are simply retailers of just about everything and are not specialist steelbook sellers and because of this steelbooks form only a teeny, tiny part of the many thousands of products they sell totally unrelated to steelbooks in particular and home video in general.
A bit like comparing a specialist cheese seller like Paxton & Whitfield in Jermyn St. W.1 or a specialist wine merchant like Berry Bros. & Rudd of St. James. St. S.W.1 to your local supermarket.
 
Fellow ninjas, I love steelbooks. I have over 200 non slipped steelbooks on my shelf, all placed into hard shell sleeves to protect them. I have all the Zavvi Disney steels. :smug:

However, my point stands. Many retailers have figured out that steelbook collectors love the full package with slipcover. While my opinion aligns with this, it's not just my opinion at this point. It's been proven quite handily.

Look at the mania surrounding the premium releases that sell out in a wild frenzy. :OMG::woot: Plus they are truly limited and numbered, solidifying the collect-ability of those releases permanently. :thumbs:

Many of the steelbook offerings from Zavvi are available as premium packages, which I strongly prefer now. To each their own, right?

And I am not confused about the profiteering of the retailers. As long as they don't take it too far, they will continue to win profits by the wallets of collectors who lap up their product. Good for them.

If they fly beyond the threshold of what is deemed as "greedy" or "taking the piss" or however else ninjas stamp it, then they will run into notable trouble selling off their stock. Personally I think some of them are getting quite close this yet to be determined threshold. And even still... I paid up for their release... (cough... FAC Baby Driver.. cough... ehem....) :smuggrin:

Also, Zavvi is no exception to this. Zavvi puts very little effort into much of anything (as you all so clearly note above). They just peddle products, and many times, their profit margin is more obscene than those of the premium retailers.

Just a little additional perspective on this fine Sunday morning. ;)
 
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This is an awful-looking SteelBook for the film.

The front art reminds me of stranger things. Thought you’d get a similar vibe

I can see why people don’t like it but I actually really like this art. Wasn’t sure at first.
Although inside could be better imo
 
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The only thing that bugs me about this is the different styles of art between the back and front. I do really like that front art though... it makes me think of concept art.
 
Got to be the best-looking steelbook for this film so far . . . with minimal print very much in its favour . . . especially when compared to the other two which have backs plastered with text:-
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One thing that puzzles me is the symbol on the back behind the monster which reminds me of the symbol on the front of the latest I AM LEGEND steelbook . . . OK, so after checking, doesn't puzzle any more as just a symbol for quarantine)
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Inside art of the new one looks really cool too . . . unlike the previous two:-
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As for the monster . . . alternating between THE MIST and OLDBOY . . .
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You don't like Godzilla or Rogue One? I love both of those movies.

Yeah- I think they're fine visual spectacles, but that they're devoid of any character, emotion, and lack engaging narratives.
The highlight of both those films for me was seeing things that I recognized- but nostalgia can't single-handedly carry a movie for me.
 
Yeah- I think they're fine visual spectacles, but that they're devoid of any character, emotion, and lack engaging narratives.
The highlight of both those films for me was seeing things that I recognized- but nostalgia can't single-handedly carry a movie for me.

I disagree.

Rogue One ISN'T the typical Star Wars movie, at least for me, and grown in me, more than TFA (and i really, really like the movie), and Godzilla has more deep than the typical monster movie. Ok, isn't a masterpiece like the original, but when you see a lot of Godzilla movies, there a lot of bad ones and that is not one of them, and i'm minority here, but G14 and Kong are far superior than PR, sorry :coffee:.

And yes, Gareth Edwards is a great visual storyteller, and a VERY underrated director.
 
Yeah- I think they're fine visual spectacles, but that they're devoid of any character, emotion, and lack engaging narratives.

Don't know what cut of the movie you watched, but Rogue One is the exact OPPOSITE of all of this.
How you can say a movie, where all the main characters sacrifice their lives at the end for the greater good is devoid of emotion?

You're probably one of the people who laughs when Jack dies in Titanic!
 
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I disagree.

Rogue One ISN'T the typical Star Wars movie, at least for me, and grown in me, more than TFA (and i really, really like the movie), and Godzilla has more deep than the typical monster movie. Ok, isn't a masterpiece like the original, but when you see a lot of Godzilla movies, there a lot of bad ones and that is not one of them, and i'm minority here, but G14 and Kong are far superior than PR, sorry :coffee:.

And yes, Gareth Edwards is a great visual storyteller, and a VERY underrated director.

I wouldn't say 'underrated'. The man was given an established near 70 year-old tokusatsu franchise that's nearly synonymous with an entire nations film industry- and also a Star Wars movie (well... minus the extensive reshoots)... so...
And while I would agree that Kong: Skull Island is a better film (merely due to it having at 2 interesting characters as opposed to Godzilla 2014's single interested character)- I would say that the difference is marginal.

Don't know what cut of the movie you watched, but Rogue One is the exact OPPOSITE of all of this.
How you can say a movie, where all the main characters sacrifice their lives at the end for the greater good is devoid of emotion?

You're probably one of the people who laughs when Jack dies in Titanic!

A sacrifice doesn't mean anything if you don't care about whomever is being sacrificed. I found the characters in Rogue One dull, devoid of any semblance of character, and (in some cases) poorly acted... so the entire movie wasn't so much exciting for me, as it was just me waiting for each of the characters to be killed off in the most comically over-the-top ways.

Again, the only thing that I thought was really great in Rogue One were the visual set pieces- but that would be a credit to Edward's use of visual and not his craft of the film language.

But hey, we all have different opinions. xP
 
Don't know what cut of the movie you watched, but Rogue One is the exact OPPOSITE of all of this.
How you can say a movie, where all the main characters sacrifice their lives at the end for the greater good is devoid of emotion?

You're probably one of the people who laughs when Jack dies in Titanic!

It's not worth getting into a debate with him. He's either trolling or he's just one of those people that has to find a reason to hate everything. Yes I know it's about opinions, but his are....well....wrong :rofl:
 
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I wouldn't say 'underrated'. The man was given an established near 70 year-old tokusatsu franchise that's nearly synonymous with an entire nations film industry- and also a Star Wars movie (well... minus the extensive reshoots)... so...
And while I would agree that Kong: Skull Island is a better film (merely due to it having at 2 interesting characters as opposed to Godzilla 2014's single interested character)- I would say that the difference is marginal.

When i say underrated is because, the auidences dosen't give a director (who proves is better than the steriotypical merceranaries established in Hollywood) a good acceptation of his works (Monsters was compared to District 9 and critize, at least, the reviews i read at the moment and Godzilla was criticed for a lack of good characters in a franchise where the human character always are forgetteable in movies like Godzilla vs Megalon or Godzilla's Revenge).

As for Kong, i was very entertaining, the movie has a INCREIDIBLE photography and is very different than Godzilla (and i don't say this as a bad thing, ;) )
 
When i say underrated is because, the auidences dosen't give a director (who proves is better than the steriotypical merceranaries established in Hollywood) a good acceptation of his works (Monsters was compared to District 9 and critize, at least, the reviews i read at the moment and Godzilla was criticed for a lack of good characters in a franchise where the human character always are forgetteable in movies like Godzilla vs Megalon or Godzilla's Revenge).

As for Kong, i was very entertaining, the movie has a INCREIDIBLE photography and is very different than Godzilla (and i don't say this as a bad thing, ;) )

Yeah, but like- don’t you think that just because another movie has bad characterization, that shouldn’t excuse anothers? That’s like me saying that it was alright for Felicity Jones to give a horrible performance in Rogue One because Samuel L Jackson gave a horrible performance in Attack of the Clones?

Also, don’t forget that “Godzilla Against Kiriyu” has good characters. :p