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After watching this last night. Disney have truely turned to the dark side. One of the worst SW movies of all time. There is so many holes in the plot reminds me of a piece of swiss cheese.
They may as well just stick a turd on the front of the SB for artwork.
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I doubt very much there will be a digital code for the soundtrack score with the UK steelbook if I'm wrong then it would be a nice extra to get
After watching this last night. Disney have truely turned to the dark side. One of the worst SW movies of all time. There is so many holes in the plot reminds me of a piece of swiss cheese.
They may as well just stick a turd on the front of the SB for artwork.
I felt similarly after seeing it (and I've seen it only once so far). However, we just rewatched the prequels, and I was surprised by how many of the problems in the new trilogy are there in the prequels, too--especially regarding plot holes. It's amazing the number of seemingly significant and interesting plot points that are raised in a prequel, only to be dropped and never heard of again, just like in the new trilogy. That doesn't make TLJ any better, but it just reminds me that plot holes and off-kilter narrative structure have long been a part of SW.After watching this last night. Disney have truely turned to the dark side. One of the worst SW movies of all time. There is so many holes in the plot reminds me of a piece of swiss cheese.
They may as well just stick a turd on the front of the SB for artwork.
I felt similarly after seeing it (and I've seen it only once so far). However, we just rewatched the prequels, and I was surprised by how many of the problems in the new trilogy are there in the prequels, too--especially regarding plot holes. It's amazing the number of seemingly significant and interesting plot points that are raised in a prequel, only to be dropped and never heard of again, just like in the new trilogy. That doesn't make TLJ any better, but it just reminds me that plot holes and off-kilter narrative structure have long been a part of SW.
This video shows how simple it would have been to fix some of the things that didn't work well in TLJ. I don't know if that helps, or just makes you more frustrated.
I'm hopeful that the excitement about the music-only version of TLJ will convince Disney and other studios to do this for many more movies. If that's all the good that TLJ does for the world, that'll be something very worthwhile.
Oh, there are things to critique in the originals. But I can see two reasons (besides the power of nostalgia for the originals) the other trilogies receive more intense scrutiny. One is simply that the originals came first, and one hopes that subsequent movies learn from earlier mistakes and improve. Some people feel that the newer trilogies don't improve on the originals.I find it funny how people are overly critical of the new movies, whilst not applying the same level to the original Trilogy.. ....
The OT might not be perfect, but it comes close to being so. The new films are okay in my opinion they just don't capture the magic of the originals, IMO it's as simple as that. Also it's not a case of my nostalgia blinkers being left on as I didn't watch the OT until I was an adult.
Well, the shareholders don’t agree with you. The movies earn a lot of money.....so I guess...You hit the nail on the head, the OT had MAGIC (goose bump moments) and the plot mistakes where small and forgiving not the size of a black hole. Lucky I don't work for disney, I would of sacked the director, hired him again and then sacked him again and then sued him.
I am sorry its off topic mods, but SW is a very serious thing and something not to be messed with. Do it right or not at all.
I'm not going to have a good weekend. Why Disney Why - Please rename the film to "Dream Crusher"
SB cancelled.
Well, the shareholders don’t agree with you. The movies earn a lot of money.....so I guess...
That’s your right of course.Your right they do earn a lot of money for the shareholders, but one thing is for sure they won't be earnings any money from me on this movie.
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That’s your right of course.
I think I will compensate for you...besides the Zavvi release I have some other releases ordered:
- Best Buy steelbook
- Target exclusive
- Disney Store Lithograph exclusive
- Amaray 4K
And of course the Blufans, etc, if possible to secure it in the future.
I like the movie
Oh, there are things to critique in the originals. But I can see two reasons (besides the power of nostalgia for the originals) the other trilogies receive more intense scrutiny. One is simply that the originals came first, and one hopes that subsequent movies learn from earlier mistakes and improve. Some people feel that the newer trilogies don't improve on the originals.
The other reason is that when Lucas made the first one, there was no guarantee that it would become a trilogy. So the odd inconsistencies in that series ("I know...somehow, I've always known," for example. No, she definitely didn't always know.) are perhaps more excusable. With both of the other trilogies, though, they were always going to be three parts each, so it doesn't make sense that they can't maintain internal logic within themselves. Kathleen Kennedy's idea of "Oh, we're not going to figure out the whole story, we'll just let each director do what he wants" seems bizarre to me.
(Sorry this is off-topic--mods can delete if they like. There's nothing brilliant here.)
I'm pretty sure Lucas didn't have everything mapped out, for instance he had to basically write the whole Han frozen in carbonate thing in case Harrison Ford didn't come back for the 3rd movie. ... Lucas pretty much made it up as he went along.
People say that the OT was perfect.
Your right they do earn a lot of money for the shareholders, but one thing is for sure they won't be earnings any money from me on this movie.
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Yes, that's what I'm saying--Lucas didn't map out three movies from the start, and as a result, the narrative flow is odd in some places. But when you know you're making three movies no matter what, there seems to be no reason not to do some planning for three movies. TLJ drops some plot points that were set up in TFA to play out much differently--and not for plot-necessity reasons, but more because Rian Johnson didn't feel like going there. The prequels do this a lot, too, and those were all crafted by a single director, so who knows.
I don't say the OT is perfect. It's flawed, but I love it. The flaws in the newer movies bother me more, for whatever reason, and I don't love them as much. Opinions are all subjective when it comes to big-franchise movies, but it can be fun to discuss. I very much dislike how heated and angry discussions about TLJ become. There's no reason for that. It's a movie, we have different opinions; we ought to be able to listen to and respect each other.
Same, cancelled my order. Agreed, a financial success doesn't equal a good film. I don't think its without its merits, Mark Hamill's performance is Oscar worthy IMO everything else from
is uhh questionable...very questionable.Laura Dern to Superleia to Finn being a side character when he should've been the lead alongside Rey
You say Finn was a side character, but for me his story arc probably gave him the most character development in the movie.