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Avengers: Age of Ultron (2D+3D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Lenticular Edition) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]
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If you're saying what I think you're saying - that all steelbooks that Zavvi sells are "rotten" - then what in God's name are you even doing in a Zavvi steelbook thread?
You may not be aware but FYI there are literally hundreds of absolutely gorgeous U.K. steelbooks sold not just by Zavvi or HMV or Amazon and now by Zoom . . . and I take it personally when people like you and those of your ilk come on these U.K. threads and run down U.K. steelbook . . . and it beggars belief that people think it logical and sensible to compare a 23 quid steelbook to one that costs twice as much with slipcovers etc. At least compare like for like or wait until U.K. steelbooks cost 50 quid and then and only them make your comparisons or else all comparisons are odious.
I don't need to list or post images of great U.K. steelbooks but a handful of my favourites won't do any harm:-
Blige, a little touchy aren't we? I'm only commenting on Zavvi's recent lenti wave, not ALL uk steels.
What am i doing in this thread? The same thing i'm doing in the AOU blufans thread - I'm a Marvel fan. The last time i checked this was a forum for discussion.
Oh, and don't call any product comparison "odious", as someone else already mentioned, this release is only a fiver cheaper than the average FAC.[/QUOTE]
1) What Zavvi recent lenticular wave? You're calling 4 steelbooks releases a wave?! (ANT-MAN, AGE OF ULTRON, THE HULK and THE INCREDIBLE HULK). I suppose it can be described as a wave comparable to the lenticular wave of something like 8 steelbooks from the tail-end of 2015 IF and only if you include those few that have not yet been released - i.e. the upcoming 3 SPIDER-MAN steels and the 2 from Disney LION LING and FINDING NEMO - thus making a grand total of 9 and then worthy of the "wave" title.
It goes without saying that we don't know how those 5 (or more than half of the recent wave) are going to look in the flesh so maybe a tad early jumping the gun and condemning them IMO.
Of the lenticular steelbook releases in the U.K. this year "Ant-Man" and "Ultron" are clearly and without doubt the least successful.
The 2 "Hulk" steelbooks have brilliant full height lentis.
The 2 "Spider-Man" steels from HMV have equally brilliant (framed) lentis.
Fingers crossed for amazing lentis on the three SM steels and the 2 Disney animation steels (whether they be full height or framed).
2) Yes indeed . . . quite so.
3) If you check back a few pages you'll see that someone paid 52 quid for the BF steelbook as against 23/25 quid for the Zavvi . . . you do the maths . . . and, yes, comparisons are odious when comparing something that costs more than twice as much as the thing it's being compared to.
Not that anyone here has much interest in this steelbook it's back with a bunch of returns (lol) according to the message from Zavvi at 18:25
[img width="580" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477766769499_2364" alt="AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON 3D STEELBOOK
AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON 3D STEELBOOK
LESS THAN 500 REMAINING!
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A lot of us have paid £51 for the recent blu fans antman and and the age of ultron steel that
Should be on the way to us now.
Just check out the video on the second from last page in the ultron blu fans thread for the lenti. You will notice how different the lentis are compared to this wave and also the beautiful finish on the steel.
Not meaning to sound patronising but check it out. It's incredible. You also have to remember that $12 of that price is shipping (about £10 with the current pound).
Asian steels always cost about £10-£15 more than say a full price U.K. Marvel steel but it's worth it with what you get
I was waiting for a restock before i saw the final product.
But now? No thanks! Ill stick with my characterspine, or just make myself one with a title.
If you don't like something, you don't buy it. I think everyone here knows that. (That's why I have been passing those uninspiring WWA of Dinsey all the time already, and it's OK).
So here is what I think where the problem is: Zavvi fails to communicate their products to their customers. And this is definitely Zavvi's responsibility, not Marvel's.
If we are able to see the final BS (including Lenti) from the beginning , people can decide BEFORE pulling the trigger and won't be surprised on delivery. All the premium retailers have being doing that all the time, showing even live pics or videos before release, why can't Zavvi?
So, I rather pay 52 EUR for something I like than 24 EUR for something I don't like, because in this case every Cent is too much.
So here is what I think where the problem is: Zavvi fails to communicate their products to their customers. And this is definitely Zavvi's responsibility, not Marvel's.
If we are able to see the final BS (including Lenti) from the beginning , people can decide BEFORE pulling the trigger and won't be surprised on delivery. All the premium retailers have being doing that all the time, showing even live pics or videos before release, why can't Zavvi?
So, I rather pay 52 EUR for something I like than 24 EUR for something I don't like, because in this case every Cent is too much.
I think the same thing, even if zavvi are unaware of all the artwork etc till it turns up in their warehouse then what they can do when it does arrive is open one copy, take photos and either update their own website pic's or share the photos with hdn or on their social media page etc.. giving us at least a week to cancel once we see what we are really paying for
After opening mine and checking the back out, surely someone made a mistake when scaling the back art, half of Thors head goes round the edge of the steelbook and Nick Fury is on the edge of the steelbook on the other side.
Reminds me of the issues with the Dredd steelbook.
Reminds me of the issues with the Dredd steelbook.
Yes, I agree but Zavvi probably wouldn't wait a week for live pics (if they actually cared that much to take them) for us to evaluate them. They start shipping the items as soon as they are available so we are stuck with poor artwork/finish, etc. Maybe some day in the future they'll delay the release date for a week to share live pics of steelbooks with us but that's just wishful thinking.
They could definitely do something to be more steelbook customer friendly to give us more info.. the place that manufacturers the steelbooks know the full art for each steelbook, would it be so hard for an email to be sent to the retailer's lol.. zavvi could do something about it but choose not to.. probably because it could affect their sales if the steelbook is under par. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't have the arrogance to name themselves 'the home of steelbook's'
It may be us wishful thinking for them to actually care about the products they're selling and us, the loyal steelbook customers but it really wouldn't be too hard for them to get more info at production stage so they can pass the info onto us.
People say you can't judge/compare a £25 steelbook to a £50 (£10 of which is shipping so £40) blufans release (of course not..or can we? ) we can compare the ways in which these company's treat it's customers when it comes to information. Zavvi charged £25 for this and ant man and we've received nothing in the way of information and yet zavvi are perfectly happy to just go with that as they are "just a retailer" so it's not up to them when the reality is, if they wanted to they could find out more info but they'd rather just sit back and take our £50 (for the 2 SB's) without a second thought.
one of the issues is the amount of money they charge when you're very nearly blind buying their steelbook's.. you have blufans (or any Asian premium SB retailer) asking £40 (not considering the shipping) and what do they do in comparison, they walk us through every aspect, right from the beginning by letting us know which title they've had the ok to produce and if their art choices have been ok'd or rejected, next we get artwork and finish of the steelbook then come all the slips available and goodies etc etc.. we even sometimes see the Asian retailers show us the prints for the slips before they've even been made up.. and we feel like they're trying their best to give us collectors something special and all this for just £15 more than what zavvi charge... if blufans or the like were to forget all the slips and goodies and just sold their steelbook's on their own (so take that £15 off the price for all the extras) to match zavvi's bare bones steelbook's at £25 each then we could compare them like for like..I've got uk and premium marvel steelbook's and for most of the premium steels you can actually see a difference in quality just by looking at them displayed on the shelf next to each other, I'm talking about the steelbooks not the slips, even forgetting the price difference play.com and hmv both made stunning marvel steelbook's back in the day that were miles better than some of these zavvi offerings, we know it's possible to make great steelbook's at a decent price, just look at zavvi's disney collection, when we know what's possible it's an even bigger slap in the face to get such a messed up steel as this AOU and for such a high price, just look at the guaranteed quality difference and attention to detail with the steelbook from other retailers .. and all we're asking zavvi to do as a retailer is to get the info on the artwork and finish from the manufacturer while they're printing them.. just an email, its simple isn't it?
1) What Zavvi recent lenticular wave? You're calling 4 steelbooks releases a wave?! (ANT-MAN, AGE OF ULTRON, THE HULK and THE INCREDIBLE HULK). I suppose it can be described as a wave comparable to the lenticular wave of something like 8 steelbooks from the tail-end of 2015 IF and only if you include those few that have not yet been released - i.e. the upcoming 3 SPIDER-MAN steels and the 2 from Disney LION LING and FINDING NEMO - thus making a grand total of 9 and then worthy of the "wave" title.
It goes without saying that we don't know how those 5 (or more than half of the recent wave) are going to look in the flesh so maybe a tad early jumping the gun and condemning them IMO.
Of the lenticular steelbook releases in the U.K. this year "Ant-Man" and "Ultron" are clearly and without doubt the least successful.
The 2 "Hulk" steelbooks have brilliant full height lentis.
The 2 "Spider-Man" steels from HMV have equally brilliant (framed) lentis.
Fingers crossed for amazing lentis on the three SM steels and the 2 Disney animation steels (whether they be full height or framed).
2) Yes indeed . . . quite so.
3) If you check back a few pages you'll see that someone paid 52 quid for the BF steelbook as against 23/25 quid for the Zavvi . . . you do the maths . . . and, yes, comparisons are odious when comparing something that costs more than twice as much as the thing it's being compared to.
Not that anyone here has much interest in this steelbook it's back with a bunch of returns (lol) according to the message from Zavvi at 18:25
[img width="580" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477766769499_2364" alt="AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON 3D STEELBOOK
AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON 3D STEELBOOK
LESS THAN 500 REMAINING![/QUOTE]
Which lenticular wave? Crumbs, you're really nipicking now. The Marvel Studios wave that Zavvi have banged out, not the Fox (Spideys) or Universal (Hulks).....
So yeah, I think every movie from Iron Man, to Guardians through to Ultron counts as a "wave" don't you?
Feel free to reply with something overlong, probably with lots of images, maybe a PowerPoint presentation with numerous graphs and bar charts - I'm done
They could definitely do something to be more steelbook customer friendly to give us more info.. the place that manufacturers the steelbooks know the full art for each steelbook, would it be so hard for an email to be sent to the retailer's lol.. zavvi could do something about it but choose not to.. probably because it could affect their sales if the steelbook is under par. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't have the arrogance to name themselves 'the home of steelbook's'
It may be us wishful thinking for them to actually care about the products they're selling and us, the loyal steelbook customers but it really wouldn't be too hard for them to get more info at production stage so they can pass the info onto us.
People say you can't judge/compare a £25 steelbook to a £50 (£10 of which is shipping so £40) blufans release (of course not..or can we? ) we can compare the ways in which these company's treat it's customers when it comes to information. Zavvi charged £25 for this and ant man and we've received nothing in the way of information and yet zavvi are perfectly happy to just go with that as they are "just a retailer" so it's not up to them when the reality is, if they wanted to they could find out more info but they'd rather just sit back and take our £50 (for the 2 SB's) without a second thought.
one of the issues is the amount of money they charge when you're very nearly blind buying their steelbook's.. you have blufans (or any Asian premium SB retailer) asking £40 (not considering the shipping) and what do they do in comparison, they walk us through every aspect, right from the beginning by letting us know which title they've had the ok to produce and if their art choices have been ok'd or rejected, next we get artwork and finish of the steelbook then come all the slips available and goodies etc etc.. we even sometimes see the Asian retailers show us the prints for the slips before they've even been made up.. and we feel like they're trying their best to give us collectors something special and all this for just £15 more than what zavvi charge... if blufans or the like were to forget all the slips and goodies and just sold their steelbook's on their own (so take that £15 off the price for all the extras) to match zavvi's bare bones steelbook's at £25 each then we could compare them like for like..I've got uk and premium marvel steelbook's and for most of the premium steels you can actually see a difference in quality just by looking at them displayed on the shelf next to each other, I'm talking about the steelbooks not the slips, even forgetting the price difference play.com and hmv both made stunning marvel steelbook's back in the day that were miles better than some of these zavvi offerings, we know it's possible to make great steelbook's at a decent price, just look at zavvi's disney collection, when we know what's possible it's an even bigger slap in the face to get such a messed up steel as this AOU and for such a high price, just look at the guaranteed quality difference and attention to detail with the steelbook from other retailers .. and all we're asking zavvi to do as a retailer is to get the info on the artwork and finish from the manufacturer while they're printing them.. just an email, its simple isn't it?
VERY well said. Remember how good the Play.com Iron Man steel was? And that was just £10.99.
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I paid £23 for this and £52 for Blufans. Both includes shipping. I am sure 95% of us paid the same. That's a difference of £29. Try reselling the Blufans and you will be struggling to get your money back nowadays thanks to the weak £.
So many in the UK have stopped importing and trying their luck in eBay or in forums. Only serious collectors with good disposable income are still importing. Those who resell are taking a huge hit which won't be the case with UK releases especially MCU. You somehow get your money back or even more if you want to offload few months down the line once they go OOS.
I am a huge fan of.Blufans.They are still the #1 Premium retailer for me. I will still try to buy their releases as long as I can afford. I passed some titles as I knew it would sell for less outside GB and I was able to get them from eBay for 20% lower price.
Zavvi doesn't care much. They just want to sell and cater to the casual collectors who don't bother too much about attention to detail. HDN also has some good.relationship with them but doesn't seem to.have much influence.
Ultimately we all.have to vote with our wallets.
So many in the UK have stopped importing and trying their luck in eBay or in forums. Only serious collectors with good disposable income are still importing. Those who resell are taking a huge hit which won't be the case with UK releases especially MCU. You somehow get your money back or even more if you want to offload few months down the line once they go OOS.
I am a huge fan of.Blufans.They are still the #1 Premium retailer for me. I will still try to buy their releases as long as I can afford. I passed some titles as I knew it would sell for less outside GB and I was able to get them from eBay for 20% lower price.
Zavvi doesn't care much. They just want to sell and cater to the casual collectors who don't bother too much about attention to detail. HDN also has some good.relationship with them but doesn't seem to.have much influence.
Ultimately we all.have to vote with our wallets.
Which lenticular wave? Crumbs, you're really nipicking now. The Marvel Studios wave that Zavvi have banged out, not the Fox (Spideys) or Universal (Hulks).....
So yeah, I think every movie from Iron Man, to Guardians through to Ultron counts as a "wave" don't you?
Feel free to reply with something overlong, probably with lots of images, maybe a PowerPoint presentation with numerous graphs and bar charts - I'm done
[/QUOTE]Good morning to you too.
I'm taking "recent" to mean THIS YEAR'S releases
I'm done too and certainly no need for me to expend my energies and waste my precious time on this nonsense.
Let's agree to disagree, as ne'er the twain shall meet, and part with a cordial handshake.
I don't think anyone paying £25 for a non new release is a casual collector and that's just another way of letting zavvi off the hook, it's simply not good enough for them to continue to be so ignorant.. we must have spent thousands of pounds on zavvi's steelbook's over the years, and it's not ok to just keep saying they're just a retailer when they say they're the home of steelbook's. . they should try and act like they care about their limited special edition products, they'd only need to hire one person to oversee their home of steelbook's and maybe get more involved with the production and sharing of information.. they may be just a retailer but they should try and have a bit of pride in their reputation.
also, you include the blufans postage costs like blufans themselves pocket the p&p money, their product is sold for £10 less than the total and like anything we buy from overseas you have to pay postage costs but that's not what the product cost, you're only seeing it from a resellers point of view.. it doesn't matter what the product goes for down the line but only that it's worth what you paid to the retailer at the time of release.. was this AOU worth £25, I don't think so personally, was say blufans GOTG worth what we paid for that on release, personally I say yes, and that's the point, people say you get what you pay for and for me with this, I do not think I got what I paid for, £25 = a much better steelbook than what i received and with blufans gotg yes I did think I got exactly what I paid for.. forget the price tag difference between the different retailers regarding their products it's all about truly feeling like you get what you pay for when you receive your steel. . this time with zavvi I did not but that's not to say the next one I buy from them won't be amazing looking and totally worth the cost.. I'm just sick of not knowing exactly what I'm paying good money for till its on my door step.
I suppose if people really hate the inside artwork they could just print out that inner image themselves, crop it right (you Hear that Scanavo?) and insert it inside. With decent cropped inside artwork and if you remove the lenticular and throw it in the bin you will have yourself a nice looking steelbook.
That's great in theory, but how many retailer do that in reality?
Zavvi have an image of the front (sans lenti) and spine. That picture is accurate. Anyone ordering it should be able to base their decision on that image. In that regards, you've got what you've paid for. Like any steelbook, or indeed amaray, you take the chance the rest of it looks as good as you hope it will. Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't.
You can't expect any retailer to be 100% accurate with the image on their site, although God knows I wish you could. All any retailer does is put up the image they're supplied with, nothing more, nothing less. Amazon only has 'real' pictures if a reviewer or third-party seller has put one up. Believe me, I've ordered plenty of steelbooks only to be disappointed by the finished result from pretty much every online retailer. Them's the breaks, as they say.
Put it this way, when I ordered the UK Man of Steel steelbook back in the day, not a single website (that I looked at) showed it with 3D plastered on the front, but it still had it. Colour me annoyed.
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