Batman and Batman Returns (4K+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Cine-Museum Art #18) [Italy]

[DMD4k]

Release date: TBA
Purchase links: Penguin Version - Catwoman Version (Pre-order on February 15 at 2.30 PM Italy time)
Price: €139.90
Notes: Batman (1989) and Batman Returns will be released in 2 special box set editions
Group buy: Penguin - Catwoman

Spoiler

Spoiler: Previous mock-up

 

[duckandrun]

That’s the thing though by making “altercations” to the original artwork for “purpose only to better suit lenticular” it’s actually making it inferior as you’ve lost composition, affected depth layers and changed proportions with vertical shifts. Prime examples is the road behind the batmobile which has basically disappeared and now have lost the element of the batmobile roaring away from Axis Chemicals, the beam of the bat signal can no longer be seen being projected from the top of the building as it’s now off screen and more in line now of the depth layer of the moon, Batman in the background would have made a fantastic final back layer of the lenti but by removing it has now caused an offset as Joker is standing high and almighty all by himself with no Batman to go toe to toe with in height so to compensate Joker has been offset lower but it just doesn’t look quite right now as part of that element has disappeared. There’s a lot to appreciate with the OG artwork and still has me baffled why it got changed as IMHO it would make a great lenti executed correctly.

Until executive file has not been finalized yet, i will think very well to your observations.

Knowing the critical point of view of collectors is very important for us and it is very comforting to know that not everyone is satisfied with random images and demands the best in the smallest details.

All of this is very inspiring!

 

[duckandrun]

Couldn’t agree more this artwork would work better as a Full Slip to take advantage of the more richer colour palette that is available along with ‘bossin to highlight key elements to the artwork but unfortunately that would break CMs M-O of only SL Premium Steelbook Editions. Take for example Zeta who did amazing working with their Batman Anthology lentis even their SLs who have to an extant mastered the fine art of lentis struggled with reproducing the finer smaller elements accurately for example the penguins and Gotham’s skyline which were part of the depth layers.

Everything fine but please don't compare this project with tHdzeta because the work necessary to carry out this project is decidedly superior. Using "standard" posters and pictures is naturally easier. We have to readjust images with different formats and different resolution to a full slip sizes...
We accept the suggestions, but we cannot compare two completely different projects!

 

[willbar84]

Everything fine but please don't compare this project with tHdzeta because the work necessary to carry out this project is decidedly superior. Using "standard" posters and pictures is naturally easier. We have to readjust images with different formats and different resolution to a full slip sizes...
We accept the suggestions, but we cannot compare two completely different projects!

Meant no disrespect just highlighting key differences of benefits of Lentis and Full Slips and how it has pros and cons with similar elements of artwork of the same films. Wether it’s original artwork or exclusive it doesn’t matter as they both can share smaller and/or vibrant ‘n’ more colourful objects that are harder to reproduce on a lenti it’s just nature of the beast. In saying all this though it makes me very intrigued how the MRT artworks will turn out with amazing glossed ‘n’ bossed treatment

 

[DMD4k]

Meant no disrespect just highlighting key differences of benefits of Lentis and Full Slips and how it has pros and cons with similar elements of artwork of the same films. Wether it’s original artwork or exclusive it doesn’t matter as they both can share smaller and/or vibrant ‘n’ more colourful objects that are harder to reproduce on a lenti it’s just nature of the beast. In saying all this though it makes me very intrigued how the MRT artworks will turn out with amazing glossed ‘n’ bossed treatment

Would... unless I missed something But it's interesting how far you've got with duckandrun so far. Keep at it!

 

[Mickle_89]

Looking at both options, I personally prefer the original mock-up. Certainly looks like better scope to add depth with Batman in the foreground, and the distant bat symbol in the background. Even better however, and I agree with @willbar84, would be to have the original poster artwork untouched with Batman still at the top, too. The new version with full on Bat symbol doesn't quite look right IMO.

 

[swish]

I like the slips and the artwork but why not try to make a WEA Steelbook? Those WWA of the Batman films don't looks good

 

[Mickle_89]

I like the slips and the artwork but why not try to make a WEA Steelbook? Those WWA of the Batman films don't looks good

Easier said than done I'm guessing, CM are still a relatively new retailer especially where WEA is concerned. WWA's are obviously easier/faster to get approved and "pump out", hence FAC I think "The Terrifier" is CM's first WEA steelbook, and that's not even released just yet. Although titled CME#2 (#1 was a Scanavo case).

 

[DMD4k]

hence FAC

 

[Mickle_89]

 

[nafosb]

I will be happy with whichever way the artwork finally turns out as long as it is worthy to hang in a museum.

 

[tha_lunatic]

Details make difference...we worked again on Lenticular Front Artwork to create better effect andmake some details more visible!

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the new one is better indeed

 

[karl01]

Prices are getting out of hand

 

[djjez83]

I need and want both boxes ...that's the OCD and Batman '89 / Batman Returns fan in me

Me too batman w h o r e #1

 

[DMD4k]

There can't be more than 1 #1 fan. Those with a claim to the spot will have to fight it out.

 

[Zagreus]

I love all the images and just hope it turns out well in lenticular. It's such a good selection of art I'd hate if the lenticular dulled it at all.

One thing I wish was different though; I know the logo on front of Batman is similar to the original one, but I particularly like the one used on the spine with the darker gold and sparkles.

 

[duckandrun]

Prices are getting out of hand

This is not standard release...i know that price is not easy but we used 7 exclusive artworks made by famous artists, for the first time all together!

 

[tha_lunatic]

Me too batman w h o r e #1

 

[Flloydo]

Artworks are stunning but those prices hahahahaha. Ridiculous. And 2 versions!!! Lol. Does anyone actually have lives or go outside their houses to do anything?!? mental.

But great art used.

Also how can you NOT compare this to HDzeta? Lol. The only other company to tackle Batman and returns premium style (regardless of how different they look)

Arrogance level peaked right there. Sounding like Jan!

 

[djjez83]

 

[duckandrun]

Artworks are stunning but those prices hahahahaha. Ridiculous. And 2 versions!!! Lol. Does anyone actually have lives or go outside their houses to do anything?!? mental.

But great art used.

Also how can you NOT compare this to HDzeta? Lol. The only other company to tackle Batman and returns premium style (regardless of how different they look)

Arrogance level peaked right there. Sounding like Jan!

Arrogance is to make judgments without understanding the meaning of my words and to define something "ridiculous" when many people have spent time and work on it.
I invite you to read carefully what is written about the comparison with Hdzeta and then express an opinion because i'm also collector and i have all Hdzeta releses in my collection.
I'm sorry to note that every time i try to talk about collecting and artworks, there is always someone who has to provoke or start stupid controversies.

All ninjas are welcome to Batman CMA#18 preorder and i'm happy to answer via PM to all questions, but i will not share something else on public thread. I respect myself too much to spend time answering to this kind of provocations.
First learn education, then judge who is arrogant and who is not.