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Elf - 20th Anniversary (4K+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Ultimate Collector's Edition) [UK]
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Yeah, they did the same with the other release... yet other retailers still had it listed and there's been no mention of people having those orders cancelled yet. Can't for the life of me remember which title it was now though.
I do agree with you however - limited edition means nothing nowadays.
I'll probably be in the minority here, but ..............I really have to disagree. Some people at the time, like myself, were in hospital and didn't get the chance to get it. Other people maybe didn't have enough funds at the time, and now do. There are a number of reasons. I really don't understand, as a member of a community like this, why you wouldn't like the thought of someone being able to get a copy to enjoy it as much as the other person so they wouldn't have to buy it on an auction site at inflated scalper prices. Maybe to keep everyone happy, put 2nd edition on box or something and it not be numbered.
It'll all be automated... as soon as they remove the item from their release schedule, it'll automatically get cancelled for all who ordered.
Makes you wonder where the info is coming from if other retailers aren't receiving the same message.
If they just release a steelbook that isn't numbered. Fine release 10,000, release a million I don't care. But if you really something that specifically says limited to however many. Then it's really ******* ****** to do a rerun.
It's not that we don't want genuine collectors to own a copy, it's that the studios lie about it being limited... just simply don't say that and there'd be no complaints.
I can shed some light on this. It has been cancelled by HMV. I wasn't happy with this release for the same reason @JinxyKatte @Noodles has mentioned here.
I raised a detailed complaint a few weeks ago. We as collectors deserve to be treated with respect and the upcoming sale of this product would have broken UK marketing regulations. I wrote to HMV citing these issues in more detail.
They immediately opened an investigation. I've waited roughly two weeks for a response and I thought it only fair I share it with you all.
I'm sorry to dissapoint anyone that ordered this re-released set, however I believe that once something has been sold as a limited product, that should be adhered to. I hope this will be a positive step moving forward for us collectors. Whilst I cannot speak for all retailers just yet, HMV & seemingly WB have restored some faith in adhering to UK regulations and just as importantly, listening to their customers. I applaud them for doing so.
I raised a detailed complaint a few weeks ago. We as collectors deserve to be treated with respect and the upcoming sale of this product would have broken UK marketing regulations. I wrote to HMV citing these issues in more detail.
They immediately opened an investigation. I've waited roughly two weeks for a response and I thought it only fair I share it with you all.
I'm sorry to dissapoint anyone that ordered this re-released set, however I believe that once something has been sold as a limited product, that should be adhered to. I hope this will be a positive step moving forward for us collectors. Whilst I cannot speak for all retailers just yet, HMV & seemingly WB have restored some faith in adhering to UK regulations and just as importantly, listening to their customers. I applaud them for doing so.
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You deserve a round of applause for this. Well done for highlighting such a blatant attempt to obfuscate the public and more importantly collectors. It was dead wrong to try and pull a swift one and I'm glad it's been flagged. Hopefully the greedy toerags either at the front end suppliers or at the corporate office never try this bait and switch again.
It was scummy.
Thanks. I remember the Zavvi Inglorious Basterds incident. That always stuck with me, as I'd not long started collecting again. Didn't want to see it again so I'm super glad that they listened!
Got me feeling like...
That certainly explains a lot then. Kudos to both yourself and hmv... can't imagine Zavvi and/or Amazon would go to those efforts or even care.
I'd have to totally agree. I'm not sure I'd of even attempted with either to be honest. Although if HMVs response is to be taken at face value... Zavvi and Amazon may be about to have it pulled from them.
Yeah, obviously my previous assumption about the studio reaching out to them was very wrong and would explain why other retailers are yet to pull these releases... will be interesting to see how long it takes for them to receive the message though.
Zavvi showing as sold out (don't think it was previously) so you may be right in the assumption they've reached out to all of them already...
Naturally HMV are ahead of the curve but maybe Zavvi will be preparing emails. WB has deleted their page for this. Amazon will probably have it up until Xmas Eve and notify everyone 2 weeks after Decembers release date however.
I would have to disagree, we all miss things due to unfortunate circumstances, i'm sorry to hear of having to go to hospital but if something is sold as limited to 2000, it should always remain as that and not resold.
That's the incentive, that's what makes people buy things because they think its limited, so they are making money from false advertising if they re-release it, and thats fraud.
But for some reason they all get away with it pretty much and do it anyways. The same happens in other things like limited cd's, vinyls etc.
I'm shocked that someone was able to contact HMV which progressed to seemingly having it cancelled?
If this had been a Zavvi limited exclusive they would not give a damm and laugh at anyone complaining.
Ofcourse they can also use ways to get around it by adjusting it ever so slightly or calling it a 2nd edition, which is still wrong in my book.
well done you glad to see someone standing up for the little man
as collectors we all buy on x number of copies and if that means nothing we stand on a slippery slope
if they started with this they be setting a new thing they can start doing again and again.
so nipping this is the bud was a very good thing you did and i applaud you
i know chances of keep winning are slim but keep up the good work
as for the chap in hospital then i do feel sorry for him but unfortunately life does get in the way of sometimes of buying all the releases and then we have to hunt for the odd one later on the secondary market, not good for you i know.
but keep reprinting is a very bad thing for collectors my own view, i just dont like it. after all if its not limited whats the point????
that makes it part of the huge draw to get them FOMO
all best
basil
Thanks a lot @Basil , nice to hear from you. Yes, I agree with your sentiment, especially around hopefully making them think twice, or even preventing such situations in the future. The more I think about it, the more I realise (if it sticks), what a huge financial decision this is & could prove to be for WB.well done you glad to see someone standing up for the little man
as collectors we all buy on x number of copies and if that means nothing we stand on a slippery slope
if they started with this they be setting a new thing they can start doing again and again.
so nipping this is the bud was a very good thing you did and i applaud you
i know chances of keep winning are slim but keep up the good work
as for the chap in hospital then i do feel sorry for him but unfortunately life does get in the way of sometimes of buying all the releases and then we have to hunt for the odd one later on the secondary market, not good for you i know.
but keep reprinting is a very bad thing for collectors my own view, i just dont like it. after all if its not limited whats the point????
that makes it part of the huge draw to get them FOMO
all best
basil
Again I reiterate the credit to HMV & WB on doing the right thing by everyone, especially us collectors, in this instance.
I will tell you a story, the night before I recieved the reply, me and my partner watched Mr Smith goes to Washington from the Columbia 4k set for the first time. She sobbed like a baby. I thought it was really great and highly recommend.
Upon me revealing HMVs response to her, she then told me I made the movie even better haha... Avoiding any spoilers... twas a good feeling to help us little guys out.
Mr Collector goes to Warner Bros?... haha
Except is flat out fraud from the initial advertised run of 2000 and I'm glad its getting cancelled. Limited edition should mean something more than just "oooh mine has a sticker and yours doesn't"
Didnt read it was getting cancelled. Well im glad it is because yes advertising limited to 2000 and rleeasing the same exact thing is just stupid. No doubt thy will release the steelbook on its own or make a whole new release anw but yes. Good news
I don't understand why they don't just make some small visual change, which will then let them claim oh this is totally different from the limited release. Drama avoided.
Alternatively and I know I'm really pushing the boundaries here but why not just use some interesting art on the steelbook instead and actually give people a reason to *want* to purchase?
Alternatively and I know I'm really pushing the boundaries here but why not just use some interesting art on the steelbook instead and actually give people a reason to *want* to purchase?
All they needed to do was release the steelbook on its own. Leave out the rest for the limited edition and just sell the steel.
No problem then.
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