Léon: The Professional (4K+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Manta Lab Exclusive No. 57) [Hong Kong]

[IRON MAN]

Release date: May 3, 2023
Purchase links: Box Set - Full Slip - Lenti - Double Lenti (Pre-order on March 3 at 8 PM - Hong Kong time)
Price: $159.97 (Box Set) - $48.99 (Full Slip) - $49.99 (Lenti - Double Lenti)

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[Lenny Nero]

Sensitive pedophilia snowflakes or sensitive bad artwork snowflakes?

Or sensitive snowflake snowflakes? Or all of the above?

 

[JGCramp]

 

[Flloydo]

What.. there is not pedophilia in this film. Yeah it's a bit of an unorthodox relationship, but she tries to push that, and he refuses. He acts more like a father than her actual father.

I swear everyone is a bloody snowflake nowadays, even for films as well renowned as this one. It really is pathetic.

Actually it does imply that a tiny bit in the directors cut which I referred to the other month in this thread. Watched it about 14/15 years ago and I didn’t like it because I didn’t think it was needed and it was ruining the film for me. That was before snowflakes so it’s always been there in the DC

 

[samdavies]

Actually it does imply that a tiny bit in the directors cut which I referred to the other month in this thread. Watched it about 14/15 years ago and I didn’t like it because I didn’t think it was needed and it was ruining the film for me. That was before snowflakes so it’s always been there in the DC

There's an air of suggestion to it, but nothing to implicate paedophilia is taking place. He's a isolated bloke with social issues and a juvenile mind, and she's an actual juvenile damaged girl with major daddy issues. She pushes, he refuses enough so it doesn't show anything vulgar on screen, but yes there is certainly a level of inappropriateness in the DC, too much for mainstream and American audiences anyway.

 

[Daubt]

Had to dm Manta to implore them to also consider for one-click La Femme Nikita, Lucy, and Anna.

 

[samdavies]

Had to dm Manta to implore them to also consider for one-click La Femme Nikita, Lucy, and Anna.

They’d have to get distribution for them though. Only viable one would be Lucy, but that's a universal title and not Gaumont.

 

[Flloydo]

There's an air of suggestion to it, but nothing to implicate paedophilia is taking place. He's a isolated bloke with social issues and a juvenile mind, and she's an actual juvenile damaged girl with major daddy issues. She pushes, he refuses enough so it doesn't show anything vulgar on screen, but yes there is certainly a level of inappropriateness in the DC, too much for mainstream and American audiences anyway.

Like I said it's minor and it is just a slight suggestion to it but that’s it.

But I did find it awkward when I watched the DC and that was in my twenties. I’m nearly 37 now. But I love the normal version and vowed to never watch the DC again because the suggestion to it made me slightly uneasy. But then Lolita is a hard watch, I see that in the defence too. Nothing to do with being a snowflake. Things make people uneasy in films all the time. That don’t make you a snowflake LOL. Some of my favourite films have weird or creepy moments but there’s nothing wrong with it making you feel uneasy as a person. If anything it proves you’re human and not a creep. But to ignore it and jump on the defensive that’s it’s not an issue is just as weird imo. It’s there. Even if it is a very small suggested moment. It’s still there. Simple

 

[TheWildEye]

Like I said it's minor and it is just a slight suggestion to it but that’s it.

But I did find it awkward when I watched the DC and that was in my twenties. I’m nearly 37 now. But I love the normal version and vowed to never watch the DC again because the suggestion to it made me slightly uneasy. But then Lolita is a hard watch, I see that in the defence too. Nothing to do with being a snowflake. Things make people uneasy in films all the time. That don’t make you a snowflake LOL. Some of my favourite films have weird or creepy moments but there’s nothing wrong with it making you feel uneasy as a person. If anything it proves you’re human and not a creep. But to ignore it and jump on the defensive that’s it’s not an issue is just as weird imo. It’s there. Even if it is a very small suggested moment. It’s still there. Simple

From what I remember, the UK and Europe have always had the extended cut (international version), that's the cut I recall watching on VHS in the mid 90s.
I don't believe I've ever seen the original US theatrical version.
The suggestion of impropriety was always in the background and just never seemed a problem.
I guess growing up with that version and maybe not really fully understanding the subtleties of their odd relationship at the age I first saw the film (12), probably made it a none issue, well for me anyway.

Luc Besson has always maintained it was never intended to be suggested as such.
Are you talking about the dinner scene and scenes in the apartment afterwards?

I couldn't believe the excellent assassination training exercises were cut out in some countries, along with drug dealer stash house hit.

 

[samdavies]

Like I said it's minor and it is just a slight suggestion to it but that’s it.

But I did find it awkward when I watched the DC and that was in my twenties. I’m nearly 37 now. But I love the normal version and vowed to never watch the DC again because the suggestion to it made me slightly uneasy. But then Lolita is a hard watch, I see that in the defence too. Nothing to do with being a snowflake. Things make people uneasy in films all the time. That don’t make you a snowflake LOL. Some of my favourite films have weird or creepy moments but there’s nothing wrong with it making you feel uneasy as a person. If anything it proves you’re human and not a creep. But to ignore it and jump on the defensive that’s it’s not an issue is just as weird imo. It’s there. Even if it is a very small suggested moment. It’s still there. Simple

I get what you're saying, and I agree with most of it. There's nothing wrong with something making you uneasy, we are all triggered differently. But just as you say it's weird to not acknowledge the inappropriateness, I'd say it would be plain wrong to tarnish something with such a strong brand as pedophilia, when it isn't.

Leon has his own story here, but it isn't Jimmy Savile's. It's inappropriate for sure, but within the context of the relationship shown and the story told it's pretty evident that's all it was intended to be. Taking offence at it to that level, shouting the word about and opting to not buy the release for that reason alone would make someone a snowflake imo.

 

[Flloydo]

From what I remember, the UK and Europe have always had the extended cut (international version), that's the cut I recall watching on VHS in the mid to late 90s. I don't believe I've ever seen the original US theatrical version.
The hidden implication of impropriety was always on show and never seemed an issue. Are you talking about the dinner scene and scenes in the apartment afterwards?

The original I’ve watched since I was like 14 and always adored it. But honestly seeing the DC was a bit odd at the time. But my main point is people jumping on it’s defensive and ignoring it. I find that just as weird. You can still acknowledge these things and still enjoy the films. Films put you through the motions and making you uneasy is one of them.

But I’m also finding it odd that people are boycotting it for that reason because as we stated it’s suggested and not acted on. So I’m middle ground and more defending that you aren’t a snowflake for acknowledging these things. Even if it’s your favourite film. (Some people get funny don’t they when you ruin something they loved for 30 years and they ignore the issues if there are any). It’s like if anyone on here as a guy says they loved that cooties film or whatever it’s called. Your not a snowflake for finding that f**king weird. I’d happily call you out as creep online for that. But that’s a completely different comparison to Leon. Lovely bones for example. Incredible film. But there nothing wrong with feeling angry, sad, awkward, disgusted at what happens. You aren’t a snowflake. And besides words like snowflakes and woke are such a cop out for people to jump on because your annoying them or ruining their favourite thing. Emotions haven’t changed over the years. Just newer words invented. Selfies were around for years before they were called selfies.

And I honestly can’t remember when it happened now. It was so long ago when I watched that version.

I couldn't believe the excellent assassination training exercises were cut out in some countries, along with drug dealer stash house hit.

Really? Wow. Never knew that

 

[Flloydo]

I get what you're saying, and I agree with most of it. There's nothing wrong with something making you uneasy, we are all triggered differently. But just as you say it's weird to not acknowledge the inappropriateness, I'd say it would be plain wrong to tarnish something with such a strong brand as pedophilia, when it isn't.

Leon has his own story here, but it isn't Jimmy Savile's. It's inappropriate for sure, but within the context of the relationship shown and the story told it's pretty evident that's all it was intended to be. Taking offence at it to that level, shouting the word about and opting to not buy the release for that reason alone would make someone a snowflake imo.

Oh I agree with all this. But you aren’t a snowflake if that does offend you. Someone might be offended by the film because they were groomed or abused and although that don’t happen in the film, the dynamic (at first) might trigger something. I mean at the end of the day it’s a grown man and little girl. Not related. But by the end of the film you recognise it’s just a non sexualised relationship. He’s looking after her. And they are like father and daughter. It’s no different to say the last of us in that sense. But some may not get through that at first because of their life experiences. Especially when the DC does slightly hint at it. So I get it. It’s not being a snowflake.

However if they went on a rant about it and boycotted it for reasons that don’t happen then that’s their issue.

 

[samdavies]

Oh I agree with all this. But you aren’t a snowflake if that does offend you. Someone might be offended by the film because they were groomed or abused and although that don’t happen in the film, the dynamic (at first) might trigger something. I mean at the end of the day it’s a grown man and little girl. Not related. But by the end of the film you recognise it’s just a non sexualised relationship. He’s looking after her. And they are like father and daughter. It’s no different to say the last of us in that sense. But some may not get through that at first because of their life experiences. It’s not being a snowflake.

However if they went on a rant about it and boycotted it for reasons that don’t happen then that’s their issue.

Agree, thats exactly how I see the film. Inappropriate to an extent, but it develops into something totally non sexual, and it's a little narrow minded to only consider that a relationship such as this could or should occur between blood relatives.

Yes, of course in circumstances where someone has unfortunately had a related traumatic past, it would understandably cause offence. One would hope the vast majority of people haven't though, so caveats aside, jumping on the pedo train is wrong and construing that from this film would make the word snowflake spring to mind.

 

[gAnX]

I've never one-clicked before, what kind of cost would I be looking at for postage to the UK?

I paid $64.95 for the ZS Justice league motherbox (which is a 5kilo-ish package, I think), my Dune OC was $49.58. So somewhere between those for a UK shipping with GB

 

[Lenny Nero]

Nothing to do with being a snowflake. Things make people uneasy in films all the time. That don’t make you a snowflake LOL. Some of my favourite films have weird or creepy moments but there’s nothing wrong with it making you feel uneasy as a person. If anything it proves you’re human and not a creep. But to ignore it and jump on the defensive that’s it’s not an issue is just as weird imo. It’s there. Even if it is a very small suggested moment. It’s still there. Simple

I think under snowflakes were meant people entirely 'canceling' the existence of the movie, not buying or watching it at all, not those getting an 'uneasy feeling'.

 

[jonnybobbytimmy]

Don‘t wanna ruin that movie for anyone but afaik Luc Besson was 32 when he dated and impregnate the 15 y/o girl Meiwenn (not illegal in France I think) which he married with her being ~16.. two years later he released Leon..

oh and the script was different and more sexual but Portmans parents required script changes for that (from minute 1:02)


Do with these information whatever you like

 

[tha_lunatic]

Don‘t wanna ruin that movie for anyone but afaik Luc Besson was 32 when he dated and impregnate the 15 y/o girl Meiwenn (not illegal in France I think) which he married with her being ~16.. two years later he released Leon..

oh and the script was different and more sexual but Portmans parents required script changes for that (from minute 1:02)


Do with these information whatever you like

i didnt know that.

 

[BluSteel2012]

i didnt know that.

You don't know anything!

 

[GeoRattray]

Wasn't Portman playing a 14 Yr old queen in Phantom Menace too? And a 9yr old fell in love with her. Seems she can't get away from the underage relationship thing....!!

Technically, he's a toy boy in that relationship, she's the older woman - Star Wars universe is messed up

 

[tha_lunatic]

You don't know anything!

well, i know that i received lotr hdzeta and you didnt

 

[BluSteel2012]

well, i know that i received lotr hdzeta and you didnt

Not yet.....