Re-releases - Your opinion?

[Wreck]

Same art re-releases or reprints .... Make your voice heard in the poll. I will be passing this on to all my contacts. While I have made my voice heard before to them individually ... I think its time they see it from more than one person.

Multiple Choice Poll !!!!! :movie:


Example: Iron Man play.com is not a re-release as they changed the art on front. We're talking exact re-releases or all the same art and some minute change.

 

[Drum18]

Please stop with re-release. Those metal case are NOT amaray, they are COLLECTIBLES, and studios need to understand us....

Or what else are we gonna say to our wives??? They'll never allow us to continue!!!

 

[roseart]

I know they are trying to get at all the new collectors that are joining the "addiction", but some of the fun is acquiring the OOS/OOP releases that came before. It is not fun to start off having everything when it came out. Part of the fun of any collecting is acquiring what you need/want for your collection to be complete (that never happens ). Trading, swapping, buying and hunting are part of the fun. Please don't take that away.

 

[Pickersmadrid]

I agree with that. Is making me think to stop collecting. As a collector I like knowing that I have something special that not much people has the privilege to have. Not something that is not special.I mean, the fact of owning a movie that I really like makes me happy but owning the same movie and knowing is a limited edition that will never be release again, makes me even happier.

I know this is bringing a lot of money to a lot of stores, producing companies... Etc. But I think they are overflooding the market and a lot of people is going to start thinking if its worth or fun collecting steelbooks anymore.....

Sorry for the speech, but I feel much better now. Lol

 

[karl01]

Re-releases is the reason i have stopped collecting steels still be buying to watch but will not collect like i used to.
I can see it from both sides new collectors can get a chance to own a rare steel for retail price thats how i got underworld trilogy because they released it but i am still 100% against it even if its new artwork just leave it alone.

 

[SimonLDT]

Steelbooks should not be reprinted or re-released. Once OOP it should stay that way. By all means, change the artwork for a different edition because it still makes the first edition 'unique' but an exact copy is a no-no in my opinion.

The new Iron Man's from Play are the way to do this properly.

 

[funkydamo]

depends on how you mean re-release.
im all for every steelbook that germany has being released over in the uk or us, purely so we can have it with english text instead of foriegn.
i only go for uk,us or oz steels now, maybe canadian as long as the spine isnt bilingual.
dont see the point in re-releasing for example in germany, underworld, death race, dark knight, etc etc etc.
only re-release if its to improve. i would love to see wanted reissued in the uk with better artwork/embossing/no printed logos and text.
perhaps the new scott pilgrim will destroy the original version for quality, but maybe not be as collectable.

 

[Wreck]

depends on how you mean re-release.
im all for every steelbook that germany has being released over in the uk or us, purely so we can have it with english text instead of foriegn.
i only go for uk,us or oz steels now, maybe canadian as long as the spine isnt bilingual.
dont see the point in re-releasing for example in germany, underworld, death race, dark knight, etc etc etc.
only re-release if its to improve. i would love to see wanted reissued in the uk with better artwork/embossing/no printed logos and text.
perhaps the new scott pilgrim will destroy the original version for quality, but maybe not be as collectable.

I agree, language text are not really a problem we are talking about ... as that is always better for the Country releasing.

 

[terry44]

Re-releases is the reason i have stopped collecting steels still be buying to watch but will not collect like i used to.
I can see it from both sides new collectors can get a chance to own a rare steel for retail price thats how i got underworld trilogy because they released it but i am still 100% against it even if its new artwork just leave it alone.

Hit the nail on the head Karl. The same reason I am more or less done with this game. I will now just buy the steels I want to watch. I have spend a fortune in the past on rare titles just to see them re released again and again

 

[Bobthesub]

reprints have been around for many different things like comics, records, posters now steelbooks ..take comics for example, if DC or Marvel do a reprint of a first issue, does it make the original one less valuable? no... but it allows people to read a comic they otherwise probably would never have the chance to. I have quite a few records, Id love to have a first print copy of some iconic records such as Dark side of the moon or Sgt Pepper, I can buy them on vinyl now but they will be a recently pressed version, to me its not the same as owning an original copy but again its probably the closest I'll ever get. I spent a lot of time and money tracking down hard to find dance records in the 90's some of those rare records were bootlegged but Im proud to own the originals, anyone can get hold of a bootleg, but it takes effort (and sometimes a lot of money) to track down the original...

Posters and art are a similar thing, Im sure most of us will own a few movie posters, chances are most of them are reprints unless your lucky enough to find an original cinema poster for a decent price, does this devalue the original? no...same with a Picasso, Warhol or Banksy print can you afford a few million for an original? get a print for a few hundred, its still not the original but its still nice and still collectable..


So steelbooks, a limited quantity collectable version of a film, is it annoying when they get reprinted? maybe... but a reprint is still not the original, maybe reprints should be slightly different? For example the recent best buy steels sans inside artwork, or the German steels where the original print run had removable ratings stickers but whos second print run had printed ratings...no confusion which is the original version, maybe re release the fabled futureshop Iron man minus inside artwork and without embossing, its similar but different, would you be happy if the first print run was the 'premium' version with embossing, inner art etc but then a later second run was more basic without embossing, no inner art etc, this allows more folks to own a version but still keeps the 2 versions apart, maybe similar to records have a code number printed on the rear that identifies it as the second print run...make the first run a 2 disk and the second run a single disk...theres lots of ways of re releasing something that is very similar but not 100% the same...

Taking the latest hot topic of the Futureshop Iron man Vs the Play.com one and what will happen to its value, I dont think the Play.com one will have any effect on the price of the Futureshop one, it will always be the original and will always be collectable, BUT I think the Play.com one will become a sought after release in its own right, even if it is a 'second best' option for those of us who cant afford or dont see the attraction of spending so much money on what is at the end of the day a Blu ray in a tin box!

 

[Xavier]

I have mixed views on this honestly. I am newer to the steelbook game and honestly would not mind a few if they were reprinted. Mainly Thor but I am happy when some alternative artwork is released. I would love to see Thor released again but id like it to be slightly different. Look at the fuss about iron man I am happy I was able to get in on the newer release for it I like it more than fs one. When people buy steelbooks they are taking a gamble if they spend several hundred on one there is no 100% sure it will never be released again.

Also look at the newer market of collectors that is growing most one care if the same artwork is released if it means they can save a couple hundred dollars ...that's just my thoughts

 

[apsmith21]

I'd say if you're going to reprint the title - take a page from the steelbook folks in Germany.

Do it with different art, do it with different bling (embossing or lack there of), but for the love of all that is holy - do it different.

Printing the same steelbook, where it's already been released with the same art - well, it just makes me want to throw up a little.

New collectors can jump into the game with a reprint that has different art - you maintain the collectibility of the release by limiting it, but making it different from the one the studio already did.

It's that simple - again, look how successful Germany is - releasing catalog titles more than once (see Wanted), and I'm sure they were still good sellers, since it had a different theme or print.

I love Nolan films and the TDK, but now with all these cheap ones getting printed, no way am I collecting all the TDK ones worldwide anymore, since they are all the same.

Just check the collection manager for a close count - Germany has almost 3x times the steelbooks than anyone else.

 

[cooey]

I like them

I've not long been in the steelbook game and have missed out on certain titles, and I refuse to pay the ridiculous prices some movies go for. For me, the re-releases are good as it gives me the chance to buy what I missed out on first time (most recent case being the BB re-releases of Batman Begins and Dark Knight)

 

[Wreck]

I have mixed views on this honestly. I am newer to the steelbook game and honestly would not mind a few if they were reprinted. Mainly Thor but I am happy when some alternative artwork is released. I would love to see Thor released again but id like it to be slightly different. Look at the fuss about iron man I am happy I was able to get in on the newer release for it I like it more than fs one. When people buy steelbooks they are taking a gamble if they spend several hundred on one there is no 100% sure it will never be released again.

Also look at the newer market of collectors that is growing most one care if the same artwork is released if it means they can save a couple hundred dollars ...that's just my thoughts

Iron Man was done in a good way as it was shown respect to not be an exact reprint. So we're all happy, and thats the point. New collectors can get it and it shows respect to those who may have paid a pretty penny on it in the past. Part of the hobby is the elusiveness ...

As for the post above, in regards to comics ... Typically its very obvious when a comic is reprinted ... everyone knows a real from a fake reprint of Superman #1 etc etc.

When it comes to steelbooks, they change nothing sometimes and it doesnt have old pages inside it to differentiate it. All the good PR about steelbooks comes from the collector side of the market. We create the hype, steelbook collectors are the ones running to the store on release day ;the least we could get in return is some respect in regards to these re-releases. Its not a hard task, just change up the art a bit. Problem solved. Cant change the front art? Ok ... change the back. etc. etc.

 

[terry44]

Scott Pilgrim did it for me.. You got the limited U.K release think I paid £40 sealed. Then along came the German reel heroes releases then hold on another German release with Blue back ground then to top this off the U.K release it exactly the same as the the first release but call it 100th Universal edition W.T.F?.
Same for hot fuzz and shaun of the dead started with the Canadian releases then more German release then back out again in the U.K Fair enough at least these these did have different art but repackaging copious amounts of catalog titles is a tad annoying to a collector.

 

[Blayze17]

Its hard to say where I stand on the matter, b/c I have in fact picked up a few re-releases for my collection, but unlike many here, I open and watch all of mine. I enjoy the art of the steelbooks so when something like Iron Man 1 & 2 come up and I can add them to my ranks, you're damn right I am happy! It is always cool though to own something that a lot of other people don't but here is my question... if a steelbook is re-released, does it adversely affect the way you feel about the original release that you have? I mean, unless you are planning on selling your collection or a specific piece should a re-release really cause the anguish to collectors that it seems to?
I think by now most companies kind of know which titles to not directly re-issue using the same art, but it's inevitable and it's going to happen, but Wreck and the gang have done a killer job trying to dissuade studios from doing that so for everyone who does feel completely negative about it at least there are people championing on your behalf and lobbying for different options from the studios.

 

[DK06CTR]

i voted for hate them, and respect the consumer at the end of the day they are supposed to be limited collectibles and these re release are killing and indeed haveing a severe affect of wether ill bother anymore im close to giving up. so if you have any say wreck get them to stop please!!!

CASH COW springs to mind which is disgusting on the studios part.

 

[terry44]

Who puts the limited in limited?

 

[RobertJoseph17]

Hate em. I remember a few months ago, it was fun searching for the hard to get steels. Now, I can't remember the last time I was happy to score a great Steel. If they're just going to get re-released, the collector in me wants out of the game. I'll just buy the movies I want to watch and leave the collecting to other people.

 

[Pickersmadrid]

Exactly, why spending much more money for a steelbook if the colectable factor is taken away. Like you gus said, I will just buy the movies I like and with the others I will be happy enough to buy the amaray.

So pissed though that they are taking away the fun of serching every day for that one steelbook or even the satisfaction of knowing that you spend the money in something unique.