Warner Premium Collection (Blu-ray SteelBook) [United Kingdom]

Blu-devil · Jul 27, 2012

Ashcroft · Jul 28, 2012

apsmith21 said:
Premium Collection makes me think the white art, but who knows at this point.

Honestly, the same studios from country to country have no idea what they are doing.

I think Wreck was talking to Warner UK at one point and they were like, check out these white covers on digis, no one has done this!

Then Wreck said....uh, warner japan did!

Wait, there was a white Warner Japan steelbook wave before the Batman/Seven/Matrix/etc one?

shdl83 · Jul 28, 2012

Ashcroft said:
Wait, there was a white Warner Japan steelbook wave before the Batman/Seven/Matrix/etc one?

I dont think so? I hope Wreck can shed some light onto whether the Batman steels will be re-released.

ocielz · Jul 28, 2012

Ashcroft said:
Wait, there was a white Warner Japan steelbook wave before the Batman/Seven/Matrix/etc one?

No, he meant that the White digibooks came first(from different countries) and then the Japanese white steels used the same covers.

FanOfGaming · Jul 29, 2012

It sucks that they are all re-released titles (as a worldwide collector, to me these are re-releases, but I understand that if you are a UK-only collector you don`t view it the same) but on the positive side, finally there is a wave I don`t need to buy :rolleyes:

small bit of wallet relief

cyberef · Jul 29, 2012

Softwing said:
In 5 years time I expect I'll feel the same about this topic as I do now. I want to get some of the steelbooks in this wave, and that single fact is all that matters to me. If they are then released in 1, 2, or 10 other countries, what does that matter to me? I'm not in this hobby to have rare exclusive items, or to watch my steelbooks rise in value, I'm in it because I love films, and I love steelbooks, and collecting them makes me happy.

I said before that It would have been wiser to mix some new-to-the-format titles in with these re-releases, as it keeps the gene pool from shrinking, so to speak. But re-releases are inevitable. It happened with VHS, it happened with DVD, with Blu-Ray, and it will happen with steelbooks. It isn't going to kill the hobby, and I think such claims are ridiculous proclamations of doom.

If people are upset because they've paid through the nose to get a previous version - that was their choice, and it is not the publisher's fault. If they're upset because it has devalued their rare steelbooks, well that just stinks of self-entitlement to me. No one ever promised you your steelbooks would be worth a fortune, and if you're collecting for that reason, then you have to accept that that's all part of the game.

So if you don't want them, don't buy them. Vote with your wallet. I'll do the same, by purchasing the ones I want. But don't go and claim that by doing so, I'm killing the steelbook hobby. It's ludicrous and just a little insulting. I have every right to buy what I want, without people putting me down for doing so.

People aren't getting butt-hurt over the opinions, but over how they're being expressed.

Why is the discussion so focused on the value of the steelbooks? I feel as a collector that what is most important to me that I have something unique. This could mean it's only available in a certain country or limited.

Doesn't it feel better that you know you own something special and unique in your collection that not 1 billion other people have? It feels like some people here has not been collecting for that long but I think you will understand if you stick around for a bit longer. I think your opinion will change, I just hope it's not too late then.

This is just my personal opinion but I think it's way more fun to hunt for that special release if it so is in Japan or Brazil. It's not that fun when it's readily available in every country.

Also that argument that we are not allowed to import releases from other countries. What is the point of that argument? Movie studios and web shops has looked the other way for a very long time. They of course see the money they can make.

hayemaker · Jul 29, 2012

Having had a look at the Digibooks for these titles, it's obvious now that these will probably use the same white art.

Strange they haven't included BB and TDK, you can only assume these will come later down the line.

RiX · Jul 29, 2012

cyberef said:
Why is the discussion so focused on the value of the steelbooks? I feel as a collector that what is most important to me that I have something unique. This could mean it's only available in a certain country or limited.

Doesn't it feel better that you know you own something special and unique in your collection that not 1 billion other people have? It feels like some people here has not been collecting for that long but I think you will understand if you stick around for a bit longer. I think your opinion will change, I just hope it's not too late then.

This is just my personal opinion but I think it's way more fun to hunt for that special release if it so is in Japan or Brazil. It's not that fun when it's readily available in every country.

Also that argument that we are not allowed to import releases from other countries. What is the point of that argument? Movie studios and web shops has looked the other way for a very long time. They of course see the money they can make.

Also, why do the studios such as Warner take the time to encode their discs region free then say we're no allowed to sell them in another country? Do they think their customers are emigrating on mass? Or have import Blu-Ray players? I don't get it.

On the batman steels, I nearly bought TDK from amazon.jp, the cost of importing that one steel was so high that it put me off, even though I knew I could sell it for 3-4 times the price in one year or it would be a pretty good trade chip! I hope they remain an asian only release I would feel crap if I paid £50 for it then it gets released here for a fraction of the price.

I think the studios are well aware of international custom, it may be a JP release but it's exclusive to amazon, an international retailer, they want people all over the world to buy it..

Softwing · Jul 29, 2012

cyberef said:
Why is the discussion so focused on the value of the steelbooks? I feel as a collector that what is most important to me that I have something unique. This could mean it's only available in a certain country or limited.

Doesn't it feel better that you know you own something special and unique in your collection that not 1 billion other people have? It feels like some people here has not been collecting for that long but I think you will understand if you stick around for a bit longer. I think your opinion will change, I just hope it's not too late then.

This is just my personal opinion but I think it's way more fun to hunt for that special release if it so is in Japan or Brazil. It's not that fun when it's readily available in every country.

Also that argument that we are not allowed to import releases from other countries. What is the point of that argument? Movie studios and web shops has looked the other way for a very long time. They of course see the money they can make.

I'm not focused on value. But some people are. I'm not trying get personal with anyone here cyberef, but an argument was raised that people like me, who are going to buy for this wave, are 'to blame' for constant re-releases. Furthermore, that we're hurting the hobby by doing so. I just find that attitude somewhat discourteous.

As a collector, what's most important to me is that I get hold of something I like, and can treasure and prize. I don't care how many other people may have it, I'm simply pleased that I have it. A film I love, presented in packaging that I love. Nothing beats that. Certainly not the fact that I may only be one of 4,000 or however many to have it.

I'm glad you find it fun to hunt down steelbooks across the globe, that is honestly really great and it shows you love this as a hobby. I don't have the inclination or the funds to do that, and consequently I don't see what's wrong with appreciating WB for releasing steels here, in the UK, that I can acquire easily. I even admitted that it would have been better to have mixed in some new releases with the re-releases, so I don't think I'm being particularly stubborn here. It's just surprising to me that by expressing a positive reaction to this wave that I could be met with such shock and indignation.

I never argued your last point, though I assume your response was general and not just aimed at me.

tflo2010 · Jul 29, 2012

I personally think rereleases are great as it gives us all an opportunity to pick up things we might have missed. When the same art is used though its just a real slap in the face to the people giving the studios their hard earned money - us, the collectors. Having spent a small fortune importing the white japanese steels ill be genuinely gutted if blade runner and matrix use the same art and, even worse, if batman begins and tdk are released with the white art in the future. Itll certainly put an end to me ever importing another steel again. play.com showed how to do it right with the IM steel but im sure i read that it was only wrecks intervention that stopped them using the FS art...

RustyCutlass · Jul 29, 2012

I'm sure we will most likely see BB and TDK, Im getting payed tomorrow and was thinking of ordering TDK amazon jp. Think I may hold off. If they do release them then I'd hope that maybe they change the artwork but keep the black and white. If they do the same as jp then i feel for true collectors because they are getting screwed. Surely if they are 'premium' then you'd hope that the artwork would remain exclusive to that release. What's the point of them being 4k limited when they just release it in every other country!

Frasr · Jul 29, 2012

hayemaker said:
Having had a look at the Digibooks for these titles, it's obvious now that these will probably use the same white art.

Strange they haven't included BB and TDK, you can only assume these will come later down the line.

I guess because they just recently released the BB/TDK jumbo in the UK. hopefully they will release BB/TDK/TDKR separate steels with the TDKR release

cyberef · Jul 29, 2012

Softwing said:
I'm not focused on value. But some people are. I'm not trying get personal with anyone here cyberef, but an argument was raised that people like me, who are going to buy for this wave, are 'to blame' for constant re-releases. Furthermore, that we're hurting the hobby by doing so. I just find that attitude somewhat discourteous.

As a collector, what's most important to me is that I get hold of something I like, and can treasure and prize. I don't care how many other people may have it, I'm simply pleased that I have it. A film I love, presented in packaging that I love. Nothing beats that. Certainly not the fact that I may only be one of 4,000 or however many to have it.

I'm glad you find it fun to hunt down steelbooks across the globe, that is honestly really great and it shows you love this as a hobby. I don't have the inclination or the funds to do that, and consequently I don't see what's wrong with appreciating WB for releasing steels here, in the UK, that I can acquire easily. I even admitted that it would have been better to have mixed in some new releases with the re-releases, so I don't think I'm being particularly stubborn here. It's just surprising to me that by expressing a positive reaction to this wave that I could be met with such shock and indignation.

I never argued your last point, though I assume your response was general and not just aimed at me.

I'm not focusing my response to anyone personally. I just want to share my opinion on the subject. I of course respect your opinion but I might not agree with you. I think it's great that you buy them for the love of the movie, this is something we both can agree on as I do this too.

For me Japanese releases always feels more exclusive. Like for example in my past experience from my DVD LE collecting days, what was released in Japan usually didn't get released in any other country.

I feel like we have different groups of collectors here. Which I guess is normal as we can't all have the same opinion.

I just hope the movie studios can respect us collectors and not only do it for the money.

Sigill · Jul 29, 2012

I think i would pick a couple up if the artwork is nice! It would be nice to see something new seeing as these have been released so many times before. I'm not gonna complain about steels being released in the U.K though!

leelee17 · Jul 29, 2012

i own the inception, batman begins and dark knight japan steelbooks, and can fully sympathise with those of you who may already own the original, or korean editions which will probably now get a release here in the UK.
however, this wave works for me nevertheless, as i never picked up the matrix white edition, so i will probably now do so. also, the addition of 300 and inception with the different artwork are, for me , an added bonus!!

stinkofdefeat · Jul 29, 2012

tflo2010 said:
I personally think rereleases are great as it gives us all an opportunity to pick up things we might have missed. When the same art is used though its just a real slap in the face to the people giving the studios their hard earned money - us, the collectors. Having spent a small fortune importing the white japanese steels ill be genuinely gutted if blade runner and matrix use the same art and, even worse, if batman begins and tdk are released with the white art in the future. Itll certainly put an end to me ever importing another steel again. play.com showed how to do it right with the IM steel but im sure i read that it was only wrecks intervention that stopped them using the FS art...

I am sorry to sound so negative.. but when you purchase an item there is no guarantee it won't be released later by someone else. Also there is no guarantee it won't go on sale later down the line either, you might pay $50 today, but a month from now it might be on sale for $25.
Also theres nothing stoping Japan from doing another print run for that matter of the same art.

I say again, lifes a gamble, sometimes you win sometimes you lose.
If you are happy with your purchase and what you paid for it then thats what matters.

Noodles · Jul 29, 2012

Apologies if this has already been pointed out, but shouldn't it say 'Premium' in the thread title instead of "Premier"?

Softwing · Jul 29, 2012

cyberef said:
I'm not focusing my response to anyone personally. I just want to share my opinion on the subject. I of course respect your opinion but I might not agree with you. I think it's great that you buy them for the love of the movie, this is something we both can agree on as I do this too.

For me Japanese releases always feels more exclusive. Like for example in my past experience from my DVD LE collecting days, what was released in Japan usually didn't get released in any other country.

I feel like we have different groups of collectors here. Which I guess is normal as we can't all have the same opinion.

I just hope the movie studios can respect us collectors and not only do it for the money.

Thanks for replying in such great way cyberef. I think that outside of our love for film, we view this hobby in fairly different ways. And there's nothing wrong with that, as diversity is a wonderful thing. I can understand the 'exclusivity' of a steelbook making it feel all the more exciting, even if it's not something that I would feel myself.

Unfortunately in this thread, our diversity seems to have led to more of a clash than I think it should have.

I'm interested in several of the films from this wave, depending now on the artwork. I sincerely hope that the next wave has some titles you would like.

Blu-devil · Jul 29, 2012

Noodles said:
Apologies if this has already been pointed out, but shouldn't it say 'Premium' in the thread title instead of "Premier"?

Well spotted. Can the mods please correct, thank you.

Noodles · Jul 29, 2012

Blu-devil said:
Well spotted. Can the mods please correct, thank you.

Cheers for the heads up on these by the way mate. Can't wait to see the final artwork!

Malky78 · Jul 30, 2012

Here's hoping these are nice & clean.

Why release 10k BC though? It's a turd & already has a uk release.

Warner Premium Collection (Blu-ray SteelBook) [United Kingdom]

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Softwing

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