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[Noodles]

PS4 - United Kingdom | United States | Canada | France | Germany | Japan
PS4 Pro - United Kingdom | United States | Canada
PS4 Slim - United Kingdom | United States | Canada​

Spoiler: Info

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In preparation for tomorrow's announcement, Sony Playstation have released a video which looks back at the evolution of Playstation games and how they pushed the boundaries of play with their innovative titles.

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You can watch a global livestream broadcast of the PlayStation Meeting this Wednesday (February 20th, 2013) starting at 6:00pm EST, 3:00pm PST and 11:00pm GMT at these links...

US: https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/
UK: http://uk.playstation.com/meeting2013/

UPDATE:

A press release reveals the machine will include an 8-core 64-bit x86 "Jaguar" CPU developed by AMD and a Radeon GPU with the capability of terrorizing televisions with 1.84 TFLOPS of gaming goodness.

PlayStation 4 includes a Blu-ray drive that spins game discs a brisk 6X and 8X for DVDs. Additional specs in the release note the, already revealed, 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM along with 802.11n WiFi capability, USB 3.0 ports, Bluetooth 2.1 and ports for optical audio, HDMI and even legacy analog AV hook-ups. Though the console will have internal storage, Sony did not detail its size.

Sony's plan is to launch its new PlayStation 4 console this holiday season. No specific date or price was revealed during the reveal event.

The PS4's main features include:

• - New DualShock 4 controller with built in touchpad
• - Dramatically improved graphics and processing power
• - Based on same X86 chips used in desktop computer to help game developers
• - 3D camera that can track the controller, and the player
• - Games can also be played on Sony's Vita handheld console

The future of PlayStation is all about great games and entertainment, and at PlayStation Meeting 2013, we brought some of the brightest and most creative minds from the development community on stage to unveil the games that will define PS4. A partial initial lineup for PlayStation 4 includes first-party games from Guerilla Games (Killzone: Shadow Fall), Sucker Punch (inFamous Second Son), Evolution Studios (Driveclub), and Japan Studio (Knack), as well as titles from our partners such as Activision/Bungie (Destiny), Blizzard Entertainment (Diablo III), Capcom (Deep Down), and Ubisoft (Watch_Dogs). PlayStation also reinforced its commitment to self-publishing and the independent development community by having Jonathan Blow onstage who gave a sneak peek of his upcoming title The Witness. Finally, the incredible minds at Media Molecule and Quantic Dream gave glimpses of their conceptualization process and the future of gameplay with some remarkable footage. We only scratched the surface at the event, and will have many more exciting titles to come.

Our next generation console will change the way you interact with friends while you play. PlayStation 4 lets you instantly share images and videos of your favorite gameplay moments on Facebook with a single press on the DUALSHOCK 4 controller’s “share” button. You can also broadcast while you play in real-time through Ustream, allowing friends to comment or jump into your game in new ways.

With PlayStation 4 we also want you to access your games quicker than ever before. PS4’s “suspend mode” eliminates the load time on your saved game and allows you to immediately return to where you left off by pressing the power button. PlayStation 4’s background downloading and updating capability also allows you to immediately play digital titles as they download, or update the system when the hardware is powered off.

DUALSHOCK 4 adopts the familiar form factor of the DUALSHOCK 3 wireless controller with some key enhancements:

• - Motion control is enabled by a new highly sensitive six-axis sensor
• - Dual analog sticks fine-tuned for better precision plus improved surface materials and shape for more delicate manipulation
• - L2/R2 buttons on the top of the controller employ a curved design for easier, smoother interaction
• - A new “Options” button combines the functions of the DUALSHOCK 3’s “Select” and “Start” buttons for operating in-game menus

You can see more images of the new DUALSHOCK 4 controller here.

 

[Noodles]

 

[thewoe]

Spec sheet for ps4 pro here: (No UHD bluray drive)

 

[AnubisNefer]

@Noodles
4k bluray support is hardware, not software.

;-)

 

[Noodles]

@Noodles
4k bluray support is hardware, not software.

;-)

Doh!

 

[Noodles]

 

[tridon]

I'm in no rush to go 4K, but that was my plan too. I'm honestly expecting them to release a software update for 4K BR at some point though, like there was with 3D.


I'm not a big fan either... it's basically a double-decker Slim, which I'm also not really a fan of. But yeah, it all looks very plasticky and dull... especially when compared the the original PS4.

I don't own a Playstation 4.
I was waiting on this to make my decision as to what one to get.

The fact that the PRO doesn't play 4K Blu-rays makes it seem almost pointless in buying. I'm really having a hard time figuring out any reason to get this one.
Should I get the new slim? Or maybe just get a OLD PS4?

I'm curious to see the specs side by side / compared.

What would you guys recommend?

I just can't understand why Sony -- a company who distributes 4K Blu-rays -- would release a 4K machine that can't play Blu-rays. It makes no sense whatsoever. I have a 4K TV and was hoping to just get the PS4 Pro as a 4K player. Here's hoping that the negative response to this helps them pull their heads out of their a$$es... especially when Microsoft is releasing a new Xbox that plays 4K Blu-rays. This is a huge step in the wrong direction for Sony.

 

[tridon]

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[Noodles]

I just can't understand why Sony -- a company who distributes 4K Blu-rays -- would release a 4K machine that can't play Blu-rays. It makes no sense whatsoever. I have a 4K TV and was hoping to just get the PS4 Pro as a 4K player. Here's hoping that the negative response to this helps them pull their heads out of their a$$es... especially when Microsoft is releasing a new Xbox that plays 4K Blu-rays. This is a huge step in the wrong direction for Sony.

It really doesn't make any sense. Surely they knew it'd be a bad move and would more than likely lose them customers... even I'm considering getting an Xbox One S instead, and I've always been a PS "fanboy". Fortunately for me I'm yet to make the move to 4K and don't plan to any time soon (mainly because of money), so I'm in no real rush to upgrade my console just yet. Funny how the tables turn... Microsoft have clearly won this round!

 

[Noodles]

Take a peek at some of the existing and upcoming games which will take advantage of of PS4 Pro's power, including Horizon: Zero Dawn, Spider-Man PS4, Watch Dogs 2 and Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.

 

[kaw]

It really doesn't make any sense. Surely they knew it'd be a bad move and would more than likely lose them customers... even I'm considering getting an Xbox One S instead, and I've always been a PS "fanboy". Fortunately for me I'm yet to make the move to 4K and don't plan to any time soon (mainly because of money), so I'm in no real rush to upgrade my console just yet. Funny how the tables turn... Microsoft have clearly won this round!

Also the XBOX ONE S is freakin' beautiful and the PS4 Slim / Pro both look horrible.

This is still my favorite looking PS4... might try to find one somewhere if people start selling thier old ones and upgrading.

 

[bloodsnake007]

Does not play blurays?! WHAT THE F**K!? Is this for real or am I just too lazy to read all of the details?

 

[bloodsnake007]

Take a peek at some of the existing and upcoming games which will take advantage of of PS4 Pro's power, including Horizon: Zero Dawn, Spider-Man PS4, Watch Dogs 2 and Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.

That Gameplay video sure looked good! I'm very excited for Horizon: Zero Dawn!

 

[tridon]

Does not play blurays?! WHAT THE F**K!? Is this for real or am I just too lazy to read all of the details?

It's real, man... sadly. Sony's getting arrogant and they're going to fall behind in the console race.

Also the XBOX ONE S is freakin' beautiful and the PS4 Slim / Pro both look horrible.

This is still my favorite looking PS4... might try to find one somewhere if people start selling thier old ones and upgrading.

I'm usually not a fan of white consoles, but the Xbox One S is pretty damn gorgeous. I'm in a crappy situation now because I was going to trade my PS4 in for the new 4K model. With it not playing 4K Blu-rays, I kinda want the Xbox One S now... but then I'd still want my PS4, too. There goes my trade-in plan.

 

[darczap]

It's pretty stupid of Sony not to include a 4K bd drive with the Pro. People will look at the One S as a better value for the money. The One S doesn't bitstream DTS X or Dolby Atmos but at least it comes with the 4K UHD drive. Costco has the Samsung 4K UHD player for $299. Better UHD 4K blu ray player than the Sony Pro (obviously) and the One S. That's the route I took and right now it looks like I'm not regretting it.

 

[Lukesablade]

It really doesn't make any sense. Surely they knew it'd be a bad move and would more than likely lose them customers... even I'm considering getting an Xbox One S instead, and I've always been a PS "fanboy". Fortunately for me I'm yet to make the move to 4K and don't plan to any time soon (mainly because of money), so I'm in no real rush to upgrade my console just yet. Funny how the tables turn... Microsoft have clearly won this round!

I bought a XB1 s last month and I'm a huge Sony fan.

Its worth the price just for the 4K player alone, then there's a few good exclusives and backwards compatibility.The console itself does feel sluggish when moving through the menu and loading compared to the PS4 and the Blu ray player is an app?!?which is weird but for £250 for the 500gb model you cant go wrong.

I also think Sony are getting complacent/arrogant.

 

[kaw]

is there any difference between the regular PS4 and PS4 Slim (besides being smaller... and price)?

 

[Noodles]

Also the XBOX ONE S is freakin' beautiful and the PS4 Slim / Pro both look horrible.

This is still my favorite looking PS4... might try to find one somewhere if people start selling thier old ones and upgrading.

I always thought the XB1 looked ugly compared to the PS4, but now it's the opposite way around... the XB1S is a stunner compared to the PSPro.

I bought a XB1 s last month and I'm a huge Sony fan.

Its worth the price just for the 4K player alone, then there's a few good exclusives and backwards compatibility.The console itself does feel sluggish when moving through the menu and loading compared to the PS4 and the Blu ray player is an app?!?which is weird but for £250 for the 500gb model you cant go wrong.

I also think Sony are getting complacent/arrogant.

I've never owned an Xbox in my life, and only briefly played on one (the very first console) back when they were released... but I've never been more tempted to finally jump aboard. I honestly can't believe the PS4 Pro won't support 4K Blu-ray... I'm still waiting for Sony to say that we're all mistaken or they simply change their mind at the last minute and add it in for launch. 4K support should've been one of the first things on their list to include... it just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't game as much these days, so having two consoles would be a waste of money... if I went the XB1 route, then I'd more than likely sell the PS4 to help fund it. The thought of missing out on PlayStation exclusives (which I've always preferred over Xbox's) like The Last of Us saddens me though. I think I'll probably just wait it out and see what happens... I refuse to believe the PS4 won't support 4K Blu-ray at some point.

 

[Lukesablade]

I always thought the XB1 looked ugly compared to the PS4, but now it's the opposite way around... the XB1S is a stunner compared to the PSPro.


I've never owned an Xbox in my life, and only briefly played on one (the very first console) back when they were released... but I've never been more tempted to finally jump aboard. I honestly can't believe the PS4 Pro won't support 4K Blu-ray... I'm still waiting for Sony to say that we're all mistaken or they simply change their mind at the last minute and add it in for launch. 4K support should've been one of the first things on their list to include... it just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't game as much these days, so having two consoles would be a waste of money... if I went the XB1 route, then I'd more than likely sell the PS4 to help fund it. The thought of missing out on PlayStation exclusives (which I've always preferred over Xbox's) like The Last of Us saddens me though. I think I'll probably just wait it out and see what happens... I refuse to believe the PS4 won't support 4K Blu-ray at some point.

The sole reason I purchased a 1 s was the 4K player, the games are an added bonus...on the gaming side my PS4 will always be number one because the exclusives to me are miles better and thats where my friends play.

Also the more info I read this morning about the pro the more it appeals to me.

There's a good chance I will upgrade to the pro and sell my XB1 s and get a standalone 4K player...it is crap that I would have to do that as the pro should include it though.

I also find it hard to get time to play games these days and owning 2 consoles is pretty pointless.

 

[RabbitChen]

is there any difference between the regular PS4 and PS4 Slim (besides being smaller... and price)?

the slim version's temperature will be lower than the old one.

 

[monsterzebra]

No 4K Blu-Ray support, no money from me.
That makes absolutely no sense! They jump on the 4K hype-train, but don't include a disc drive that can handle the content?!