So who is going over to 4k blu ray or planning to in the future? i`ve been looking into it and considering most films are filmed in 2k is this going to be like 3D anther fad that will die or will this be the next format to replace blu ray?
4k or not to 4k
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I did see some of those OLED's, with those kind of thicknesses it is going to be a job putting all those inputs in! Yeah I wouldn't want to know the price!Also- very soon the OLEDs will be millimeters thick, and will mount with magnets (and can be rolled up!).
They have already showed them at trade shows (and an earlier version was used at the China Olympic games).
These are basically ready- the hurdle they have to jump is the inputs and outputs (which will probably have to be ribbon wire).
(Oh! And of course- THE PRICE!)
I did see some of those OLED's, with those kind of thicknesses it is going to be a job putting all those inputs in! Yeah I wouldn't want to know the price!
And I don't want to speculate on the longevity either.
Still a happy Plasma bunny until they finally get the regular Oleds right - and in a FLAT format; are you listening Panasonic?!!!!
@karl01 - As you're probably aware myself and a few others have gone into great detail about why 4k is a waste of time for the vast majority of viewers, and how there is next to zero chance of true 4k broadcast material in the short to medium term - no sooner than 20/25 years, given there isn't the capacity or will to upgrade to broadcast regularly in even 1080p!
Invest in a good 2k set; and wait for a perfected Flat Oled - like the rest of us
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So does HDR make our current blu ray discs obsolete? Like we'd have to rebuild our movies to take advantage of the new tech?
Not real happy about that possibility...
Not real happy about that possibility...
I personally don't see the new format as a radical step up from blu-ray. certainly I will continue to support blu-ray but this is not the quantum leap you had from say VHS to DVD. Also I think only true 35mm / 70mm films will benefit from this format. So Ben Hur or say 2001 is going to be of more interest to me in this format that say modern films like The Martian which are all digital based. The biggest stumbling block for me will be the actual machines that play the discs. It's be another 2 years before they are fully realised and can really deliver the picture quality 100% that's on the discs.
I've only been collecting these limited/numbered steelbooks for a few months now. Before then I really didn't even know about Kimchidvd, HDzeta, Novamedia, Zavvi etc.
I saw titles from these places while searching blu rays on eBay but they were expensive and I never really paid them any mind. One day I just paid attention, checked one
out and got hooked. The artwork, quality, and limited nature really appealed to me. Now in these last few months I've purchased about 40 of them. Some right from the source,
some off of eBay. With the ones from eBay ranging from a good deal to all the money. I am enjoying this. But I do have some concerns. How will the new 4K blu-rays and maybe
more importantly the increased improvements, access, and popularity of streaming effect the future value of these expensive steelbooks? I'm not new to collecting. Years ago I
had an extensive vinyl collection and saw the value of most of my collection drop as CD's became less expensive and more titles became available. And a very similar thing with
Laserdiscs and DVD's of which I also had a substantial Laserdisc collection. I know there has been a resurgence in vinyl but it is relatively small and I don't believe it will ever be
close to what it once was.I'm not sure those are fair comparisons or not. Are my concerns founded? If this is the wrong place for this post, Moderator please move it to a more
appropriate thread.
I saw titles from these places while searching blu rays on eBay but they were expensive and I never really paid them any mind. One day I just paid attention, checked one
out and got hooked. The artwork, quality, and limited nature really appealed to me. Now in these last few months I've purchased about 40 of them. Some right from the source,
some off of eBay. With the ones from eBay ranging from a good deal to all the money. I am enjoying this. But I do have some concerns. How will the new 4K blu-rays and maybe
more importantly the increased improvements, access, and popularity of streaming effect the future value of these expensive steelbooks? I'm not new to collecting. Years ago I
had an extensive vinyl collection and saw the value of most of my collection drop as CD's became less expensive and more titles became available. And a very similar thing with
Laserdiscs and DVD's of which I also had a substantial Laserdisc collection. I know there has been a resurgence in vinyl but it is relatively small and I don't believe it will ever be
close to what it once was.I'm not sure those are fair comparisons or not. Are my concerns founded? If this is the wrong place for this post, Moderator please move it to a more
appropriate thread.
I have the 2015 UF850v, its not HDR but its 4K, its a great set and makes bluray and 3D look fantastic but tbh i dont think im ready to jump into 4K HDR. It just feels like the SUPERBIT dvd's, no bonus features on the disc etc plus the players are £400+ ... No thanks bluray is good enough for me.
Like all things given time the value will fall on Steelbooks the way it has on other Collectibles. DVD Steelbooks used to be very expensive and now they can be picked up very cheaply. I don't see this happening for a long while though and I don't think 4K will affect it very much. It is an addition to Blu-ray rather than a replacement.
Streaming will continue to grow so I expect packaged media sales to drop as time goes by. I don't think you should worry about anything for a long while though, it will be years before streaming takes over and people will always want to collect physical copies.
Strong 4K UHD TV sales, a couple of highlights:
- 4K Ultra HD players launched in the US market and were quickly purchased. With 26 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray releases available in the first quarter, 4K Ultra HD discs experienced impressive sales with consumers buying more than 80,000 discs in their first weeks of launch. This number is two times that of Blu-ray Discs sales in its first weeks of launch.
- More than 1.5 million 4K Ultra HD TVs sold in the first quarter, up 210 per cent, bringing the total number of sets sold to date exceeding seven million.
I'll buy a 4K TV when my current set breaks down without possibility of reasonably priced repair. Same thing with my Blu-ray player.
I believe (done the math) that the increased resolution in 4K vs. 2K would do nothing for me, as I have no plan (nor desire) to have an 80"+ screen in my living room.
While the leap in picture quality from DVD to Blu-ray was huge, I don't see the same kind of advancement going from Blu-ray to 4K UHD. Consequently, I don't plan to "upgrade" any of my current Blu-ray films to 4K UHD Blu-ray.
To me it looks like most viewers will benefit more from HDR than the increase in resolution (unless one has a big screen TV or projector).
It would be great to be able compare two color calibrated, same size TVs, one 4K UHD + HDR, second a regular 2K HD setup, side-by-side with varying material at home and really see what the visible improvements are. Both with all internal image processing features turned off or to minimum settings.
I often wonder how much of "the picture of my new 4K TV looks so much better" can be attributed to different color calibration and advances in, e.g., the TV's internal image processing algorithms. By default, I would expect a new TV have better PQ than, say a four year old, similarly priced unit.
I believe (done the math) that the increased resolution in 4K vs. 2K would do nothing for me, as I have no plan (nor desire) to have an 80"+ screen in my living room.
While the leap in picture quality from DVD to Blu-ray was huge, I don't see the same kind of advancement going from Blu-ray to 4K UHD. Consequently, I don't plan to "upgrade" any of my current Blu-ray films to 4K UHD Blu-ray.
To me it looks like most viewers will benefit more from HDR than the increase in resolution (unless one has a big screen TV or projector).
It would be great to be able compare two color calibrated, same size TVs, one 4K UHD + HDR, second a regular 2K HD setup, side-by-side with varying material at home and really see what the visible improvements are. Both with all internal image processing features turned off or to minimum settings.
I often wonder how much of "the picture of my new 4K TV looks so much better" can be attributed to different color calibration and advances in, e.g., the TV's internal image processing algorithms. By default, I would expect a new TV have better PQ than, say a four year old, similarly priced unit.
one of the reasons might be that people who did not upgrade from dvd to blu in time do it now. skipping 'normal' blu-ray.
@Ranavalone - gonna do the exact same thing...but let's see how 4K takes on and what films are released. hype might die out and 4K films stop coming.
I saw an LG EF9500 OLED in my local electronics store last week. I just stood there for a long time, not wanting to leave this TV. I kept starting to walk away, but kept going back for one more look. OLED TV's are.....AMAZING!
I am going to join the Blu-ray 4K Ultra HD HDR community, but I will be waiting for the next generation OLED's which should hit here in NZ around the middle of 2017. Hopefully prices will have dropped somewhat, and I will be able to afford one. I have started to save up for my next TV now.
HDR streaming content from Netflix etc. should improve over the next 12 months, also there will be many more Blu-ray 4K UHD discs available at a lower price than now, although if you see a bargain you could pick it up now and enjoy the Blu-ray which is included with every release.
I am going to join the Blu-ray 4K Ultra HD HDR community, but I will be waiting for the next generation OLED's which should hit here in NZ around the middle of 2017. Hopefully prices will have dropped somewhat, and I will be able to afford one. I have started to save up for my next TV now.
HDR streaming content from Netflix etc. should improve over the next 12 months, also there will be many more Blu-ray 4K UHD discs available at a lower price than now, although if you see a bargain you could pick it up now and enjoy the Blu-ray which is included with every release.
Another report of rising 4K UHD TV sales due to aggressive pricing and streaming content - http://for.tn/1XT1VVe
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