Black Hawk Down (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]

[BluSteel2012]

Release date: February 20, 2017
Purchase link: Zavvi (Pre-orders will be live around 6 PM UK time on Sunday January 15)
Price: £15.99

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[davhyl]

Bourne Identity and Star Trek Beyond.

Yeah, Bourne Identity doesn't look great from what I've just seen, edge enhancement is an awful thing. Star Trek isn't good? I know it was reportedly finished at 2K, so the 4K is an upscale, but surely that's better than the 1080p BD.

 

[virkia]

It should go without saying that True4K will be better than standard 1080p Blu-rays, or re-mastered in 4K Blu-rays, but on the other hand it's unrealistic to imagine a miraculously better picture on everything as True 4K will only be 2X and not 4X better (4X the pixels though) than what we are watching now and that's going by horizontal and vertical resolution:-
True 4K resolution = 3840 x 2160
Blu-ray resolution = 1920 x 1080
Of course there's a mass of other benefits of True 4K over the current standard which I don't need to repeat here and I truly can't understand why anyone should not welcome with open arms any evolution in home video as when all's said and done it's not as if our precious Blu-ray collections are going to be made obsolete.
Two things that can be said without fear of argument is that a True 4K set-up will make films shot on 65/70mm look significantly better than they do on a standard 1080p set-up and that True 4K is not going to be a fad like 3D.

 

[lgans316]

It should go without saying that True4K will be better than standard 1080p Blu-rays, or re-mastered in 4K Blu-rays, but on the other hand it's unrealistic to imagine a miraculously better picture on everything as True 4K will only be 2X and not 4X better (4X the pixels though) than what we are watching now and that's going by horizontal and vertical resolution:-
True 4K resolution = 3840 x 2160
Blu-ray resolution = 1920 x 1080
Of course there's a mass of other benefits of True 4K over the current standard which I don't need to repeat here and I truly can't understand why anyone should not welcome with open arms any evolution in home video as when all's said and done it's not as if our precious Blu-ray collections are going to be made obsolete.
Two things that can be said without fear of argument is that a True 4K set-up will make films shot on 65/70mm look significantly better than they do on a standard 1080p set-up and that True 4K is not going to be a fad like 3D.

4K UHD is not going to fail like 3D. All manufacturers are going for it. 95% of the new TVs will be UHD.

The true and few 4K transfers have been quite breath-taking. Studios will re-release pretty much everything on 4K UHD. This is inevitable. Once UHD becomes mainstream like current Blu-rays, they will stop including Blu-ray disc in the UHD package like they are doing now by excluding DVDs in the standard Blu-ray package although there are the odd few which have them.

 

[paulboland]

4K UHD is not going to fail like 3D. All manufacturers are going for it. 95% of the new TVs will be UHD.

The true and few 4K transfers have been quite breath-taking. Studios will re-release pretty much everything on 4K UHD. This is inevitable. Once UHD becomes mainstream like current Blu-rays, they will stop including Blu-ray disc in the UHD package like they are doing now by excluding DVDs in the standard Blu-ray package although there are the odd few which have them.

4K UHD yes is better but not the same as going from DVD to 1080p Blu-ray
A lot of the public wont see the need to upgrade for a while yet
The difference between 1080p Blu-ray and 4K UHD is not the same improvement as you got going from DVD to 1080p Blu-ray

Most wont upgrade to 4K TV and 4K Blu-ray UHD until they have to purchase a new TV or film distributors start releasing films on 4K UHD only
I cant see 4K Blu ray UHD and 4K TV been mainstream until 4-5 years

1080p HDTV last a good while 5-10 years so the need to purchase a new 4K TV will take a while
A lot only went 1080p TV in past 4-6 years

 

[lgans316]

4K UHD yes is better but not the same as going from DVD to 1080p Blu-ray
A lot of the public wont see the need to upgrade for a while yet
The difference between 1080p Blu-ray and 4K UHD is not the same improvement as you got going from DVD to 1080p Blu-ray

Most wont upgrade to 4K TV and 4K Blu-ray UHD until they have to purchase a new TV or film distributors start releasing films on 4K UHD only
I cant see 4K Blu ray UHD and 4K TV been mainstream until 4-5 years

1080p HDTV last a good while 5-10 years so the need to purchase a new 4K TV will take a while
A lot only went 1080p TV in past 4-6 years

Most won't upgrade but many still buy new TVs and 95% of them are UHD TVs. Slowly it will begin to itch the owners to try out 4K lol.

The difference is noticeable on big screens (65+ from a short distance) with HDR turned ON.

More than resolution, with UHD, it is all about HDR.

 

[misformatt]

I think this'll look decent if it really does have a debossed title and spot gloss. The more I look at the random spec ops guy on the back, the more I think it'd look better without him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't place that shot from the film (he's holding an AK, after all); it looks more like something pulled from a scrapped Call of Duty cover.

If it's not too late, I think a more dignified alternative could be found--perhaps a shot of one of the actors in the actual film. Might I suggest:

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[Scary Hair]

Sod all the technichal guff gang

THE ONLY thing I want to know is

WHEN IS IT LIVE to order ???
.

 

[CleverLoginName]

@misformatt
100% agreed. Indeed the back looks like a cover from a recent CoD/Battlefield game. I'm not saying it's ruining it, but there certainly would have been better options -- like leaving the back blank, with only the helicopters in the sky. Just as you suggested. Oh well, I'm gonna buy it anyway.

 

[Sigill]

It should go without saying that True4K will be better than standard 1080p Blu-rays, or re-mastered in 4K Blu-rays, but on the other hand it's unrealistic to imagine a miraculously better picture on everything as True 4K will only be 2X and not 4X better (4X the pixels though) than what we are watching now and that's going by horizontal and vertical resolution:-
True 4K resolution = 3840 x 2160
Blu-ray resolution = 1920 x 1080
Of course there's a mass of other benefits of True 4K over the current standard which I don't need to repeat here and I truly can't understand why anyone should not welcome with open arms any evolution in home video as when all's said and done it's not as if our precious Blu-ray collections are going to be made obsolete.
Two things that can be said without fear of argument is that a True 4K set-up will make films shot on 65/70mm look significantly better than they do on a standard 1080p set-up and that True 4K is not going to be a fad like 3D.

I'm not sure how you get 2 times better, 4 times the pixels is 4 times better! The same way Blu-rays were up to 6 times better than DVD's. As has been said the difference between Ultra HD and Blu-ray isn't as much as it was from DVD to BD. The real selling point is HDR, that is noticeable on any screen size. Even a lot of 2K finished films look better than the BD purely because of the HDR. I do agree that they will both co-exist alongside DVD. There's a market for all of them. Blu-rays still have great PQ, UHD's are slightly better again but a lot of films won't neccesarily see a big improvement unless they are native 4K.

 

[virkia]

^ http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1650-is-4k-twice-or-four-times-as-good-as-hd
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As for the Old Wives' Tale about damaging your eyes by sitting too close to the TV:-

If you haven't heard this one, you must not have ever been around a television as a kid. At least this one is somewhat rooted in some truth. Back in 1967, General Electric warned customers that some of their CRT colour TVs were emitting excessive x-rays, and they recommended keeping children at a safe distance while watching. This led to some minor hysteria and created the notion that sitting close to any TV could be bad for your eyes.
Soon after, the US Congress and the FDA stepped in enacting the Radiation Control for Health and Safety Act of 1968 Since then, television sets had to be built limiting x-ray emissions as much as possible, and modern LCD and Plasma screens don't emit x-rays at all. When it comes to watching TV, sitting close to the screen isn't going to do eat away at your eyes, but it's still possible to encounter serious eye strain when you're looking at a screen for too long. Make sure you take plenty of screen breaks and you'll be fine.

Just a thought when you're watching your 4K TV at the maximum recommended distance of 7.5 ft.

 

[Sigill]

^ http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1650-is-4k-twice-or-four-times-as-good-as-hd
============================================================================================================================================================
As for the Old Wives' Tale about damaging your eyes by sitting too close to the TV:-

If you haven't heard this one, you must not have ever been around a television as a kid. At least this one is somewhat rooted in some truth. Back in 1967, General Electric warned customers that some of their CRT colour TVs were emitting excessive x-rays, and they recommended keeping children at a safe distance while watching. This led to some minor hysteria and created the notion that sitting close to any TV could be bad for your eyes.
Soon after, the US Congress and the FDA stepped in enacting the Radiation Control for Health and Safety Act of 1968 Since then, television sets had to be built limiting x-ray emissions as much as possible, and modern LCD and Plasma screens don't emit x-rays at all. When it comes to watching TV, sitting close to the screen isn't going to do eat away at your eyes, but it's still possible to encounter serious eye strain when you're looking at a screen for too long. Make sure you take plenty of screen breaks and you'll be fine.

Just a thought when you're watching your 4K TV at the maximum recommended distance of 7.5 ft.

I've never read too much into those tales about damaging your eyes. I personally wouldn't sit too close to the TV but each to their own! I also wouldn't sit at the reccomended distances for 1080P and 4K. These charts want you to sit ridiculously close to the TV when it isn't possible in reality. That's why I think HDR is more important that resolution for UHD.
I think we should end the conversation here before we derail the thread too much! We have a 4K section where we can chat in depth.

 

[javiermendoza]

It should go without saying that True4K will be better than standard 1080p Blu-rays, or re-mastered in 4K Blu-rays, but on the other hand it's unrealistic to imagine a miraculously better picture on everything as True 4K will only be 2X and not 4X better (4X the pixels though) than what we are watching now and that's going by horizontal and vertical resolution:-
True 4K resolution = 3840 x 2160
Blu-ray resolution = 1920 x 1080
Of course there's a mass of other benefits of True 4K over the current standard which I don't need to repeat here and I truly can't understand why anyone should not welcome with open arms any evolution in home video as when all's said and done it's not as if our precious Blu-ray collections are going to be made obsolete.
Two things that can be said without fear of argument is that a True 4K set-up will make films shot on 65/70mm look significantly better than they do on a standard 1080p set-up and that True 4K is not going to be a fad like 3D.

What is True 4K?
I know that 2K resolution is 2046 x 1080 so 4K can only be 4096 x 2160 and 8K can only be 8192 x 4320, etc.
Everything else is a cropped image (Full HD (1920 x 1080), 4K UHD (3840 x 2160), 8K UHD (7680 x 4320)).

Btw, 1080p blu-rays have only 2MP compared to UHD's 8MP. So, in theory, all things considered equal (a perfect transfer of the movie, etc.), UHD should have 4x better picture quality.

Sorry, for going off-topic

And I'm guessing Black Hawk Down will go live sometime in January. Probably 28th or 29th.

 

[paulboland]

Pre-orders will be live around 6pm UK time on Sunday January 15th

 

[javiermendoza]

Pre-orders will be live around 6pm UK time on Sunday January 15th

Wasn't that far off - my first post estimate live date was mid-January Thanks, Paul!

 

[javiermendoza]

People, 1 hour until this goes live. Get ready in case any 10% off codes work.

 

[wouter]

Live!…and ordered

 

[javiermendoza]

It's funny that the 12% OFF code on zavvi.de was working and when I wanted to pay it changed the price back to with no discount.

 

[tha_lunatic]

pre-ordered

 

[javiermendoza]

Live!…and ordered

How did you manage to order it 4 minutes before it went live for me?

 

[wouter]

How did you manage to order it 4 minutes before it went live for me?

Dutch site was live before the UK site