Desirability of steelbook collecting

creasey275 · Dec 11, 2012

The year 2012 has seen a massive surge in steelbook releases, and collectors. Of the 35 pages of threads on HDN steelbook forum, 24 have been started this year. Back catalogue films, new releases and multiple releases in different countries has, I imagine, lead collectors to become more choosy about which to buy and where to buy it. "Limited" releases to 4,000, shop exclusives and steelbook treatment(debossing...) are now crucial deciding factors whether customers buy, and judging by the posts on numerous thread here and elsewhere reporting that a lot are keeping steelbooks sealed, over-riding the film itself.

Now for the statement.

In 2012 the huge increase in steelbook releases has lead to the decline in desirability of steelbooks. Discuss.

lgans316 · Mar 18, 2014

dirtyoak · Mar 18, 2014

lgans316 said:
Le Grand Blue Lenticular slip Kimchi - slightly above cost price but still a big loss

£33 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171267827414?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

How is slightly above cost on an opened copy a big loss? :dunno:

lgans316 · Mar 19, 2014

dirtyoak said:
How is slightly above cost on an opened copy a big loss?

10% eBay fees on final value
10% eBay fees on postage
5% fees by PayPal

dirtyoak · Mar 19, 2014

lgans316 said:
10% eBay fees on final value
10% eBay fees on postage
5% fees by PayPal

Still not a big loss...
But I guess it depends on your point of view. And let's face it you do look at it in a negative way in this thread.
And please don't ask me if you're not allowed. Of course you are. I don't have anything against you personally. I would have made the same post if anyone else had posted those links.

With the exception of Watchmen (which has a re-release) all the steelbook's you posted links to were release fairly recently. As I think you know it takes time for most releases to rise in value.

But listen, I've stopped collecting steelbook's a long time ago so in a way I agree with you but for the most part you link to newly released, opened, damaged or steelbook's that has been re-released without ever mentioning it.
It makes you come across as a bit of a car salesman to me. Or a journalist.

In closing I'd like to say that I think the heyday of steelbook's in terms of value on the second-hand market is long gone and I don't see it coming back. If you collect with the purpose of making a buck then I think you're gonna have a hard time.

lgans316 · Mar 19, 2014

Thanks for your advice. It is not a big loss but still a loss.

As someone who owns about 700+ Steelbooks, I have a reasonable knowledge of the market.

As you are out of the game, I think you should be doing something else instead of making assumptions (car salesman, journalist).

dirtyoak · Mar 19, 2014

lgans316 said:
Thanks for your advice. It is not a big loss but still a loss.

As someone who owns about 700+ Steelbooks, I have a reasonable knowledge of the market.

As you are out of the game, I think you should be doing something else instead of making assumptions (car salesman, journalist).

Just because I no longer collect I can't have a reasonable knowledge? Does this apply to say football as well? Should retired players shy away from commenting?
That doesn't really make sense to me.

And I wasn't assuming anything. I said that to me personally you came across as a car salesman or journalist not that you are one which would be an assumption.
You're the one that assumes because I no longer collect I don't have any knowledge on the subject.

Odd...

lgans316 · Mar 19, 2014

dirtyoak said:
Just because I no longer collect I can't have a reasonable knowledge? Does this apply to say football as well? Should retired players shy away from commenting?
That doesn't really make sense to me.

And I wasn't assuming anything. I said that to me personally you came across as a car salesman or journalist not that you are one which would be an assumption.
You're the one that assumes because I no longer collect I don't have any knowledge on the subject.

Odd...

My sincere advice is to put me on your IGNORE list. I only post links. How people interpret that is not my problem.

dirtyoak · Mar 20, 2014

lgans316 said:
My sincere advice is to put me on your IGNORE list. I only post links. How people interpret that is not my problem.

If you don't like how they interpret you it becomes a problem for you.
And sincerly I enjoy your posts not only in this thread but on this forum in general but that doesn't mean I agree with everything. Or anything for that matter.
I personally find your voice to be different than most on here and you many times point out negative things. And even if I don't agree with your opinion I really respect your voice as a contrast to all the 'omg! next grail!' comments that many have.

But I will say that you almost never seem to respond to any of the criticm anyone has against you or your views and that's pretty odd to me. That particular aspect of you I don't respect much.
I'd rather that you stood up for your comments in stead of just saying 'how people interpret that is not my problem'. It's your right to do so but it's not something I find appealing.

I sincerly hope my criticism doesn't put me on your ignore list but if you do decide to do so I respect that.

lgans316 · Mar 21, 2014

I post links to low valued auctions. Don't deny that. At the same time, I don't post links to high valued auctions as there is already a thread for that.

I am merely posting links. None of my comments (if any) are directed at any member. If they interpret the link in a different way then I need not be answerable to them. What I am trying to convey is sometimes it is worth to try your luck and playing the waiting game instead of jumping the gun early and moaning about paying a high price, as the Steelbook market is now overcrowded with supply outstripping demand except for a handful of titles.

I don't have anything against you but I would like to stress that there are some affluent folks with an "I know everything attitude" who derail the thread. I hope you don't side with them for the wrong reasons.

Some links for the day:

Star Trek 3D/2D Lenticular Media Market

£17.55 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331153679681?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

£21 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141220509073?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

TDK Trilogy Steelbook Amazon.de

£17.75 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281286912727?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

UP 3D/2D 3d slip Blufans

£42.15 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261421123720?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

Aladding - Zavvi

£15.00 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111298108769?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

howiesteed · Mar 21, 2014

I just wish you told me half of these before they finish I want alladin and Peter pan

lgans316 · Mar 21, 2014

Mate,

You need to keep looking by adding to your watch list.

lgans316 · Mar 22, 2014

Lucky, no?

$68 is the GB price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171275502797?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

howiesteed · Mar 23, 2014

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thor-The-Dark-World-3D-Blu-ray-3D-2-Disc-Set-VGC-Steel-Book-/271430076311?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item3f327e4797

bit cheap i thought

dirtyoak · Mar 24, 2014

howiesteed said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thor-The-Dark-World-3D-Blu-ray-3D-2-Disc-Set-VGC-Steel-Book-/271430076311?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item3f327e4797

bit cheap i thought

It says that the seller uses jiffy bags to send items out so unless the winner of the auction asked it to be packed in a boxed there's a good chance it will show up damaged.
So yes it's cheap but if it's damaged it's just a waste of money.

lgans316 · Mar 25, 2014

Even if it was damaged, you can easily sell the discs for a tenner.

lgans316 · Mar 25, 2014

frankfish44 · Jun 13, 2014

I look at most announcements and just think to myself that ain't worth my time. I will not even give them a second look regardless of pricing. I get excited for new releases and very few catalogue releases. I guess I'm picking my way through the minefield in a way. I was critical of the amount of releases coming out of the UK and still am so much so that I avoid almost all of the releases. I like Taiwan the best. Very well spaced out releases. Not quantity, but quality

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