Avengers: Endgame (4K+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (WeET COLLECTION - Exclusive No. 8) [Korea]

[NewOrder]

Release date: January 12 22, 2021
Purchase links: Full Slip A1 - Full Slip A2 - Lenti B1 - Lenti B2 - Box Set (Pre-order on December 22 at 2 PM - Korea time)
Price: $52.99 (Individual Editions) - $226 (Box Set)
Group buy: Hosted by Aniv Full Slip A1 - Full Slip A2 - Lenti B1 - Lenti B2 - Box Set
Note:
Total Print Run: 4500 copies
Full Slip A1 (3 discs: 4K + 2D + Bonus BD) - 550 copies
Full Slip A2 (3 discs: 4K + 2D + Bonus BD) - 300 copies
Lenti B1 (3 discs: 4K + 2D + Bonus BD) - 600 copies
Lenti B2 (3 discs: 4K + 2D + Bonus BD) - 450 copies
Box Set (1~650 Same Numbered 4 Individual Editions + Magnet Lenticular) - 650 copies

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[JGCramp]

I also think the producers and distributors of premium physical media products have a really niche market, which is at best stable and at worst shrinking with a lot of people moving to streaming only and considering the cost of having a premium collection. I imagine it would be financially difficult for some of these companies to produce their products for very large production runs, especially if they ended up with unsold stock on a lot their releases.

 

[DMD4k]

I also think the producers and distributors of premium physical media products have a really niche market, which is at best stable and at worst shrinking with a lot of people moving to streaming only and considering the cost of having a premium collection.

I strongly disagree. Most premiums are selling out now faster than when I started collecting about 30 months ago. If anything, the market is growing.
Those doing streaming only are not collectors, or at least not collectors that would have been premium oriented in the first place. So saying they moved to streaming is of no consequence, they were never the target client.

 

[deadlyleadly]

I strongly disagree. Most premiums are selling out now faster than when I started collecting about 30 months ago. If anything, the market is growing.
Those doing streaming only are not collectors, or at least not collectors that would have been premium oriented in the first place. So saying they moved to streaming is of no consequence, they were never the target client.

i agree, however i do wonder if the market is growing due to an increase in profiteering rather than those collecting

 

[samdavies]

i agree, however i do wonder if the market is growing due to an increase in profiteering rather than those collecting

Bit of both i think. They go hand in hand really. There wouldn't be much scope for profiteering if a comsumer base wasn't there to feed it.

 

[Flloydo]

I’ve personally not seen a change in sell outs since I started collecting premiums 7/8 years ago. Premiums have always sold out rapidly bar the odd release. Nothings changed imo. I also think just as many drop out of this game as there are new collectors on a monthly/ yearly basis

 

[JGCramp]

I strongly disagree. Most premiums are selling out now faster than when I started collecting about 30 months ago. If anything, the market is growing.
Those doing streaming only are not collectors, or at least not collectors that would have been premium oriented in the first place. So saying they moved to streaming is of no consequence, they were never the target client.

Fair point Honestly, I don't know whether you're right or not but it makes for an interesting discussion. When we talk about demand growing, exactly how much stock is needed to meet that growth? I'm not disagreeing with you in the sense that the market can't accommodate increased production runs. If Blufans made 3000 copies available I have no doubt they'd sell out but I'm sure there are other considerations that come into play when they consider production runs that I'm not a position to speculate about.

But that said, (1) how much of an increase can the premium market handle (it might vary from Blufans to Nova, and so forth) and (2) can producers and retailers remain financially viable if they miscalculate and increase production runs for titles thinking there will be demand only to find out they are stuck sitting on inventory. Cinemuseum, for example, has a very limited Goonies production run and all of the different versions are still available.

My whole point is that it is a niche market (were only talking production runs in the thousands) and physical disc sales are declining at an accelerated rate (over 20% in 2020 Q1 from the year before). Yes, collectors like us will continue buying premium media releases even if the physical media industry collapses; and all of this assumes well into the future that studios won't totally commit to streaming and continue allowing discs to be produced, which I don't think is guaranteed.

 

[a_o]

But that said, (1) how much of an increase can the premium market handle (it might vary from Blufans to Nova, and so forth) and (2) can producers and retailers remain financially viable if they miscalculate and increase production runs for titles thinking there will be demand only to find out they are stuck sitting on inventory. Cinemuseum, for example, has a very limited Goonies production run and all of the different versions are still available.

My whole point is that it is a niche market (were only talking production runs in the thousands) and physical disc sales are declining at an accelerated rate (over 20% in 2020 Q1 from the year before). Yes, collectors like us will continue buying premium media releases even if the physical media industry collapses; and all of this assumes well into the future that studios won't totally commit to streaming and continue allowing discs to be produced, which I don't think is guaranteed.

I think in situations like that, maybe they're missing the mark on marketing to fans of that particular film/franchise. This could be in part because the product is contractually obligated in the distribution or licensing agreements to be promoted as available 'exclusively' in only one country/region, though their online store may accept orders worldwide and ship worldwide. If they could aggressively purchase online ads or campaigns that reached the specific relevant audience outside of that country I'm sure they would, but how that affects the bottom line on a limited manufacturing run might not be considered. Of course they'd want to sell through the stock and make a profit rather than only sell half and maybe break even, wether they have an ad budget or just someone posting to the goonies subreddit.

 

[howarmat]

I strongly disagree. Most premiums are selling out now faster than when I started collecting about 30 months ago. If anything, the market is growing.
Those doing streaming only are not collectors, or at least not collectors that would have been premium oriented in the first place. So saying they moved to streaming is of no consequence, they were never the target client.

nah its much easier getting yours hands on stuff today. We used to melt down servers on almost every release from Kimchi and Nova. Now there is rarely any release that does this like we saw with the Weet Endgame. Stuff stays in stock for hours weeks and even months for some releases. They is far more options now and people now pick and choose what release of a movie they want. Its still a niche market but there are more players in the "lets make easy money" game

 

[Billy Talent]

My whole point is that it is a niche market (were only talking production runs in the thousands) and physical disc sales are declining at an accelerated rate (over 20% in 2020 Q1 from the year before). Yes, collectors like us will continue buying premium media releases even if the physical media industry collapses; and all of this assumes well into the future that studios won't totally commit to streaming and continue allowing discs to be produced, which I don't think is guaranteed.

I thought that would happen to the music industry that they would all go digital, and look at vinyl sales now its bigger than ever

Quote:
''According to a new report from The Recording Industry Association of America, vinyl records accounted for $232.1 million of music sales in the first six months of 2020, whereas CDs have only brought in $129.9 million This is the first time since 1986 — 34 years! — that vinyl has outsold CDs.''

So I don't think these premium releases will ever stop, there's always a bunch of people that will continue to collect and I believe even more people will start collecting.

 

[JGCramp]

I thought that would happen to the music industry that they would all go digital, and look at vinyl sales now its bigger than ever

Quote:
''According to a new report from The Recording Industry Association of America, vinyl records accounted for $232.1 million of music sales in the first six months of 2020, whereas CDs have only brought in $129.9 million This is the first time since 1986 — 34 years! — that vinyl has outsold CDs.''

So I don't think these premium releases will ever stop, there's always a bunch of people that will continue to collect and I believe more people will start collecting.

Good point! I miscalculated that one, too.

 

[tha_lunatic]

I thought that would happen to the music industry that they would all go digital, and look at vinyl sales now its bigger than ever

Quote:
''According to a new report from The Recording Industry Association of America, vinyl records accounted for $232.1 million of music sales in the first six months of 2020, whereas CDs have only brought in $129.9 million This is the first time since 1986 — 34 years! — that vinyl has outsold CDs.''

i'm collecting vinyls, love them

 

[Steely-Booked]

I thought that would happen to the music industry that they would all go digital, and look at vinyl sales now its bigger than ever

Quote:
''According to a new report from The Recording Industry Association of America, vinyl records accounted for $232.1 million of music sales in the first six months of 2020, whereas CDs have only brought in $129.9 million This is the first time since 1986 — 34 years! — that vinyl has outsold CDs.''

So I don't think these premium releases will ever stop, there's always a bunch of people that will continue to collect and I believe even more people will start collecting.

That’s definitely a premium example, because clearly CDs sell more units than vinyl...but vinyl costs an arm and a leg. I guess if the art is nice it makes sense, but aside from a few that I bought to support small bands and a handful that bought as a collectible, I’ve only bought one vinyl album in the last 35 years. I think that was 1989...before that, it was probably the 84 or 85.

I still buy CDs, even though I mostly rip them flac on my server and also convert to MP3 to put on my phone (mostly because I hate the tiny gaps that the app I use for subsonic has between gapless songs). TBH that what I do with movies too, even though I do have a 4k player.

 

[nafosb]

The only vinyl I have is a raincoat.

 

[psychoscot]

nah its much easier getting yours hands on stuff today. We used to melt down servers on almost every release from Kimchi and Nova. Now there is rarely any release that does this like we saw with the Weet Endgame. Stuff stays in stock for hours weeks and even months for some releases. They is far more options now and people now pick and choose what release of a movie they want. Its still a niche market but there are more players in the "lets make easy money" game

Nail and head! If people think its hard now, they would have had an utter meltdown 5/6 years ago, Oh wait some did hahaha! Under 15 seconds to place an order, the good old days lol!

 

[MM3]

Agreed. Unlimited print runs don't equate to valuable collectors items. No fun if everyone has one

That's selfish!

 

[eLviS1987]

That's selfish!

That's naive. This is how the business works.

 

[MM3]

That's naive. This is how the business works.

It was a joke.

 

[DMD4k]

nah its much easier getting yours hands on stuff today. We used to melt down servers on almost every release from Kimchi and Nova. Now there is rarely any release that does this like we saw with the Weet Endgame. Stuff stays in stock for hours weeks and even months for some releases. They is far more options now and people now pick and choose what release of a movie they want. Its still a niche market but there are more players in the "lets make easy money" game

Melting down servers is not necessarily down to sheer amount of buyers, it could be and I believe it is) just bad servers that couldn't handle the load.
What stuff stays in stock for months? Low demand releases.
There are more players in the game, that's my point. There can't be more players in the game if the market isn't bigger. That would make zero sense.

 

[DMD4k]

Nail and head! If people think its hard now, they would have had an utter meltdown 5/6 years ago, Oh wait some did hahaha! Under 15 seconds to place an order, the good old days lol!

Nail and head? LOL
Just because there were faster sellouts of a handful of releases, because that's all there were, if we acknowledge there's more releases now and they still sell out, for the most part, reasonably fast to very fast, it doesn't take a PhD to figure this out.
More releases are possible because the market is bigger. It's not rocket science.
If the market was smaller there would be less releases, not more.
Just because you were there for the potato server meltdowns it doesn't mean it was the height of collecting.

 

[Billy Talent]

Melting down servers is not necessarily down to sheer amount of buyers, it could be and I believe it is) just bad servers that couldn't handle the load.
What stuff stays in stock for months? Low demand releases.
There are more players in the game, that's my point. There can't be more players in the game if the market isn't bigger. That would make zero sense.

This right here, just saw HDZETA upcoming releases and they are busy pumping out loads of stuff (of course this might take a while as we all know) not too mention All the other labels are busy releasing a bunch of stuff.
Doesn't seem it's slowing down at all, seems to me that there is more demand nowadays.

Most of the premium releases sell out no matter how bad the movie is.