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Baby Driver (Blu-ray SteelBook) [UK]
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I think perfect would have been that poster art on the front. I don't like that plain front.
I think I see this same quote posted to all steelbook threads.
Isn't full gloss, or spot gloss and bossing on all steelbooks what the majority of people want?
And to never see matte again?
If so, why hasn't the message been passed onto the retailers?
They probably know, but it would probably cost them about 25p extra for each release
. The fact that they would sell for about £3 - £4 more if they added gloss hasn't entered their tiny brains 
Personally though I don't think even gloss can save this one, too pop-arty again for me.
Just my two cents - does not reflect the opinions of Her Majesty the Queen, the Prime Minister or Mrs. Bloggs down the road at No.12:-
I find it hard to believe that the designers and manufacturers decide not to full gloss any particular steelbook because it would cost them a few pennies more.
I believe any decision arrived at regarding finish is for artistic purposes alone.
I believe that if corners are to be cut embossing, de-bossing and twin-bossing - which surely cost more than just adding another layer of varnish during the manufacturing process - would be abandoned and consigned to the pages of steelbook history.
I believe that being creative with the white basecoat layer, as in WW for example, is more time consuming and expensive than just going all out with the gloss spray.
I believe designers, advisers, studios - and the manufacturer - design and create these steelbooks in good faith to look the part and I for one applaud them for being adventurous with the designs - in turn giving the steelbook buyer all manner of artwork styles from the traditional to the wacky including commissioned artworks by very famous artists including two of the very best in the business Tyler Stout and Graham Humphreys.
Added to that a full selection of finishes from matte to zero to satin to spot-gloss to metallic shine effects to full gloss etc. add variety and an extra dimension to the hobby.
Of course some will be universally admired and others universally hated but I'm guessing that the majority will be liked or disliked in equal measure . . . and they will all be talked about on forums such as this one.
That's not to say that certain steelbooks would not have looked better in a full gloss finish but that really depends not just on the colour of the steelbook but also sometimes on the choice of artwork. Not forgetting the distributor may have a 'style' of steelbook which looked at from a distance one can tell 99.9% of the time that it's a Mondo or an Arrow steelbook.
Some of my favourites are from Arrow and I reckon they have the best designed steelbook artwork out there and not one of them full gloss (as far as I can remember without checking).
The most obvious recent example that would have benefitted from a full gloss finish is the Euro/Asia GHOST IN THE SHELL and 99% of the time I'd say that a full gloss finish would benefit white and black steelbooks and indeed steelbooks with strong background colours such as red.
RE: ADDITIONAL COST OF FULL GLOSS OVER OTHER FINISHES - Nil . . . and without double checking with Scanavo my information is that full gloss lacquer adds zero cost to the manufacturing process and that other finishes are just as cheap/expensive. The only difference between full gloss and all the other finishes being the 'flatting' agent that is added which turns full gloss into a semi-gloss or satin sheen finish.
That's just about two cents worth of opinion so I'll leave it there.
I find it hard to believe that the designers and manufacturers decide not to full gloss any particular steelbook because it would cost them a few pennies more.
I believe any decision arrived at regarding finish is for artistic purposes alone.
I believe that if corners are to be cut embossing, de-bossing and twin-bossing - which surely cost more than just adding another layer of varnish during the manufacturing process - would be abandoned and consigned to the pages of steelbook history.
I believe that being creative with the white basecoat layer, as in WW for example, is more time consuming and expensive than just going all out with the gloss spray.
I believe designers, advisers, studios - and the manufacturer - design and create these steelbooks in good faith to look the part and I for one applaud them for being adventurous with the designs - in turn giving the steelbook buyer all manner of artwork styles from the traditional to the wacky including commissioned artworks by very famous artists including two of the very best in the business Tyler Stout and Graham Humphreys.
Added to that a full selection of finishes from matte to zero to satin to spot-gloss to metallic shine effects to full gloss etc. add variety and an extra dimension to the hobby.
Of course some will be universally admired and others universally hated but I'm guessing that the majority will be liked or disliked in equal measure . . . and they will all be talked about on forums such as this one.
That's not to say that certain steelbooks would not have looked better in a full gloss finish but that really depends not just on the colour of the steelbook but also sometimes on the choice of artwork. Not forgetting the distributor may have a 'style' of steelbook which looked at from a distance one can tell 99.9% of the time that it's a Mondo or an Arrow steelbook.
Some of my favourites are from Arrow and I reckon they have the best designed steelbook artwork out there and not one of them full gloss (as far as I can remember without checking).
The most obvious recent example that would have benefitted from a full gloss finish is the Euro/Asia GHOST IN THE SHELL and 99% of the time I'd say that a full gloss finish would benefit white and black steelbooks and indeed steelbooks with strong background colours such as red.
RE: ADDITIONAL COST OF FULL GLOSS OVER OTHER FINISHES - Nil . . . and without double checking with Scanavo my information is that full gloss lacquer adds zero cost to the manufacturing process and that other finishes are just as cheap/expensive. The only difference between full gloss and all the other finishes being the 'flatting' agent that is added which turns full gloss into a semi-gloss or satin sheen finish.
That's just about two cents worth of opinion so I'll leave it there.
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I would say the good majority of people yes. Some people do like matte but the majority do prefer gloss. I prefer gloss every time over mate. It brings the colours out and just looks better.
I'm sure the majority of the time it does come down to costs. Wreck stated that it does cost more although not a substantial amount for a gloss finish. I'm pretty sure cost is nearly always a factor rather than studios making an artistic decision.
I also have a strong feeling a matte steel is 99% of the time not a artistic decision too lol
Why would every Warner bros & 20th century fox new WWA steel be matte? Lol
It's lack of artistic decision
Some steels suit matte and some are a decision artistically made but most the time it's lazy effort and cost cutting for mass producing and/ or the designers not having a clue
Yeah pretty sure 99% of the time it comes down to the bottom line. When whole waves are matte how can It be an artistic decision. Not every design suits the same finish so I think it's mostly down to the cost.I also have a strong feeling a matte steel is 99% of the time not a artistic decision too lol
Why would every Warner bros & 20th century fox new WWA steel be matte? Lol
It's lack of artistic decision
Some steels suit matte and some are a decision artistically made but most the time it's lazy effort and cost cutting for mass producing and/ or the designers not having a clue
Still think finish is King, a crap finish can ruin brilliant artwork but a quality finish can improve crap artwork IMO.
. . . and not forgetting the gloss waves
Anyway, these two for the inside art (#2 and #4):-
Anyway, these two for the inside art (#2 and #4):-
I think so. Other design is available all over Europe. And pink was the original colour scheme so suits the movie better IMO.
18 quid at Amazon atm
(I'd be surprised if it gets any lower than that at pre-order).
(I'd be surprised if it gets any lower than that at pre-order).
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Thanks, cancelled my Zavvi order.....ordering from Amazon UK saves me customs fees!
This film is so over rated i was expecting so much more maybe it just got to hyped up i have cancelled mine.
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