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Red Sparrow (4K & 2D SteelBooks) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]
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Like I said I'm not sure they should be compared however if I had to choose I'd easily go with Atomic Blonde as well, mainly for how visually it was shot, the sound track and the fact it's an easier watch. Red Sparrow still a good film though
have to drastically disagree there - loved both this and Atomic Blonde, but the latter is by far the better.
same as myself and a friend then - we both enjoyed each movie, but if had to choose, ignoring differance in tone, we both rated Atomic Blonde much more highly.Indeed
Like I said I'm not sure they should be compared however if I had to choose I'd easily go with Atomic Blonde as well, mainly for how visually it was shot, the sound track and the fact it's an easier watch. Red Sparrow still a good film though
Went and watched this last night! Thought it was decent and you see plenty of J-Law!!!
but is a little bit slow for me.
Not rushing to grab a steel for ot but would rewatch it next year sometime on bluray!
but is a little bit slow for me. Not rushing to grab a steel for ot but would rewatch it next year sometime on bluray!
same (last night) and agree was slow - still enjoyed it though.Went and watched this last night! Thought it was decent and you see plenty of J-Law!!!
Not rushing to grab a steel for ot but would rewatch it next year sometime on bluray!
be interesting to see if it holds up well with repeat viewings.
Saw it twice last weekend. It felt shorter than its length due to the heavy plot, and you have to pay attention to fully appreciate the ending!
It was only cut by a few seconds in one scene
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@paulboland do you know if this UK edition will have a censored version ? I get always confused about UK releases and what is edited or not 
I don't know as I not been giving this release any attention@paulboland do you know if this UK edition will have a censored version ? I get always confused about UK releases and what is edited or not
Cinema and Blu-ray releases can often be different when it comes to cuts done with a cinema release in the UK
Blu-ray is uncut most times when released but you get the odd Blu-ray that is same as cinema release
It might be an 18 Cert for Home Media or be the same 15 Cert as cinema release
If I see any info I will let you know closer to release date
There is no details yet for BBFC certification for Blu-ray/DVD release it's TBC
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Like a lot of recent films the BBC has only advised film makers on how to achieve the bffc cert they want to release it under. They're not actively cutting anything - it's distributors deciding they want access to a wider audience...
I know, but advising before the official submission is still censoring, and for the most part what they advise is nonsensical. It's like they randomly throw in a bit of mainstream censorship every so often so they don't look like they're only targeting porn. In a way it's good for the consumer as they aren't butchering films to the extent they used to, however, given the extent of violence that they do leave in tact they could have just given the lower rating without changes in something like John Wick 2 and I highly doubt there would have been any complaints.
It is a little I suppose, but again it's only advisory and more often than not to determine the difference between a 12A and 15 (I know a couple like Red Sparrow & JW2 have been between 15 &18) but they're not imposing cuts to get a release like the bad, bad old days. And to be fair they are a lot more lenient on what constitutes a 15 rating than previously, so some scenes will inevitably still nudge a title into 18 rated territory for just going that little bit too far (or being too easily imitatable - Like 'Every Day' recently here)
If distributors weren't simply interested in hitting as wide a range of age wallets as possible and let a title stand on it's own merits it likely wouldn't be an issue - and it's not just a UK phenomenom, it's just as prevelant in the US as well - look at New Mutants which we were promised a hard-R for then started talking about trimming/seeking filming advice on how to have it to hit the PG-13 rating to get a wider audience...
The real problem is when lazy distributors take the BBFC certified version and roll it out worldwide
At least with John Wick and Red Sparrow and a few others we have the option to get the uncut version from other territories 
Plus, to keep this thread on track - yeah Red Sparrow was decent so pre-ordered anyway
I think it's the leniency of the 15 rating that confuses me, only the classification bodies will ever truly understand how a second or two can make such a difference when 15 and 18 almost indistinguishable now. Something like Every Day I can understand as it seems like that one scene is tonally out of place given that it appears to be aimed at a younger audience, and changes to imitable techniques at the lower ratings is one thing I do sometimes agree with. I wouldn't mind the changes to higher rated films if we were guaranteed a full release on home media, I'd rather be able to save a little money and get it domestically, but like you say, at least most things are freely available elsewhere.It is a little I suppose, but again it's only advisory and more often than not to determine the difference between a 12A and 15 (I know a couple like Red Sparrow & JW2 have been between 15 &18) but they're not imposing cuts to get a release like the bad, bad old days. And to be fair they are a lot more lenient on what constitutes a 15 rating than previously, so some scenes will inevitably still nudge a title into 18 rated territory for just going that little bit too far (or being too easily imitatable - Like 'Every Day' recently here)
If distributors weren't simply interested in hitting as wide a range of age wallets as possible and let a title stand on it's own merits it likely wouldn't be an issue - and it's not just a UK phenomenom, it's just as prevelant in the US as well - look at New Mutants which we were promised a hard-R for then started talking about trimming/seeking filming advice on how to have it to hit the PG-13 rating to get a wider audience...
The real problem is when lazy distributors take the BBFC certified version and roll it out worldwide
Plus, to keep this thread on track - yeah Red Sparrow was decent so pre-ordered anyway
Completely agree about the lazy distributors, that really is inexcusable.
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It's nothing new a lot of film distributors do the cuts themselves so they can get certification to reach wider cinema audience
Having 18 cert reduces the number of ticket sales in a cinema
BBFC not really the ones doing the cut it's a choice for the film distributor to make
The film distributor if they wanted they could have released in the cinema uncut and be 18 cert
From what I have seen what was cut it's not anything that takes away from the film and makes sense to do the cut if it means been seen by larger cinema audience
Most times when it come to DVD/Blu-ray they release uncut and also do extended editions even if it means higher certification
There is a big difference when it comes to home media market and cinema
How many of have watched films on Video or DVD that was 18 cert but we was 15 or younger
Home media lot easier to sell to wider audience 18 cert films than cinema
Having 18 cert reduces the number of ticket sales in a cinema
BBFC not really the ones doing the cut it's a choice for the film distributor to make
The film distributor if they wanted they could have released in the cinema uncut and be 18 cert
From what I have seen what was cut it's not anything that takes away from the film and makes sense to do the cut if it means been seen by larger cinema audience
Most times when it come to DVD/Blu-ray they release uncut and also do extended editions even if it means higher certification
There is a big difference when it comes to home media market and cinema
How many of have watched films on Video or DVD that was 18 cert but we was 15 or younger
Home media lot easier to sell to wider audience 18 cert films than cinema
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"During post-production, the distributor sought and was given advice on how to secure the desired classification. Following this advice, certain changes were made prior to submission"
This isn't censoring. This is a distributor making cuts to make more money.
This isn't censoring. This is a distributor making cuts to make more money.
Clean, simple design... I like it! Loving the added feather effect on the front too. If I were to make any changes, then I'd switch the colours (black & red) around.
Yes this is much better! The text at the bottom is gone and her face is more visible without the red shading. However, I would have preferred the red steelbook if they had used the same black & white (grey?) shading that they are useing on her face in this image.
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