Spider-Man (4K+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Manta Lab Exclusive No. 97) [Hong Kong]

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Release date: May 20, 2026
Purchase links: Box Set - Full Slip - Double Lenti A - Double Lenti B (Pre-order on March 20, at 8 PM - Hong Kong time)
Price: $175.97 (Box Set) - $52.99 (Full Slip) - $54.99 (Double Lenti A - Double Lenti B)

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WEA, Exclusive SteelBook designed by Manta Lab features "Full Glossy" Finish and "Debossed Title".
Box Set: 600 Sets, Numbered 1-600. Spot Foil, Spot Glossy, Spot Matte, Spot Embossing, Scratch Resistance Coating
Full Slip: 1000 copies, Numbered 1-1000. Spot Foil, Spot Glossy, Spot Matte, Spot Embossing
Double Lenti A: 1000 copies, Numbered 1-1000. Front 3D Lenticular, Back 3D Lenticular, Spot Glossy, Spot Matte, Spot Embossing
Double Lenti B: 1000 copies, Numbered 1-1000. Front 3D+Flip Lenticular, Back 3D Lenticular, Spot Glossy, Spot Matte, Spot Embossing
Premiums: Booklet, Postcards, Character Cards, Envelope, Exclusive Numbering Sticker, Exclusive Release Front Sticker, Exclusive Release Lenticular Sticker.

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So dumb, why have a cue, if once you start checking out you can still miss out?

Just shows you font give a fk about your customers, just the fast sell out.

Didn't bother with any of the others, so not fazed, just annoyed Manta still carry on like this.
 
So dumb, why have a cue, if once you start checking out you can still miss out?

Just shows you font give a fk about your customers, just the fast sell out.

Didn't bother with any of the others, so not fazed, just annoyed Manta still carry on like this.
Neither Manta, nor Weet put a lock on copies that are in the cart, which is bad programming. Probably not by them, since I suspect both companies bought it from someone else, but it’s still not a good way to do it. I’m not sure I’ve seen a system like this anywhere else, but TBH, I don’t know if Amazon or Best Buy is just bad, since I never buy stuff that’s in high demand. Might be time for Ticketmaster to sell their tech to retailers.
 
Lock a copy to each shopping cart and you will have copies which don't sell because some people never complete the checkout or you'll have people running a ton of bots to lock out everyone else.

The system they're using is not the problem because the problem is simply one of demand greatly exceeding supply.
 
Lock a copy to each shopping cart and you will have copies which don't sell because some people never complete the checkout or you'll have people running a ton of bots to lock out everyone else.

The system they're using is not the problem because the problem is simply one of demand greatly exceeding supply.
That’s not how it works. You get in the cart and you have a certain amount of minutes to finish the transaction. This is literally how all tickets for events have worked for 30 years (longer if you understand that Ticketmaster and Ticketron were doing that back when you went to a store to buy tickets).
 
That’s not how it works. You get in the cart and you have a certain amount of minutes to finish the transaction. This is literally how all tickets for events have worked for 30 years (longer if you understand that Ticketmaster and Ticketron were doing that back when you went to a store to buy tickets).
Isn't that what I described? You're locking up the stock allocation to the first people to get it into their carts, it's ultimately the same system where first to finish (into cart vs completed checkout) wins so people are just going to hit the sold out window faster and it adds the complication of coming back into stock for the people who don't complete checkout in the timeframe.

Only advantage I can see to that system is it means you don't have the frustration of seeing checkout fail but it changes very little and I think it'd be easier to exploit as it wouldn't be hard to make a bot to lock up the collectong front end if it's just a matter of getting it into your cart.
 
That’s not how it works. You get in the cart and you have a certain amount of minutes to finish the transaction. This is literally how all tickets for events have worked for 30 years (longer if you understand that Ticketmaster and Ticketron were doing that back when you went to a store to buy tickets).
It can still be manipulated by bots and scammers though given it can be held in the cart for that period of time. If you have multiple accounts and can just mass add them to those accounts then it isn't too difficult to abuse it as all that stock is taken off the site. Back when Mondo did limited drops they used a system very similar to Manta. It's not ideal by any means (especially when you have something in your basket and get to the final stage of payment processing and get a message saying your basket is empty at the next stage), but I don't think the alternative is better in this scenario. With tickets for events where you have many thousands of tickets available it can work fine when you have a queuing system (especially as people will drop out in places), but with something with a much, much lower number count (especially after GBs) personally I don't think it's much better.
 
Isn't that what I described? You're locking up the stock allocation to the first people to get it into their carts, it's ultimately the same system where first to finish (into cart vs completed checkout) wins so people are just going to hit the sold out window faster and it adds the complication of coming back into stock for the people who don't complete checkout in the timeframe.

Only advantage I can see to that system is it means you don't have the frustration of seeing checkout fail but it changes very little and I think it'd be easier to exploit as it wouldn't be hard to make a bot to lock up the collectong front end if it's just a matter of getting it into your cart.
No. you said it’d lock copies in a cart that never complete. That’s not what happens. IT’s in the cart and then it’s released.
as for being sold out quicker, you just hit reload a lot, which is literally what people are doing anyway (at least I do for weet, because stuff still goes in/out of stock.

Doing it the way they do it, adds complication for the user, because now you’ve gotta worry about paypal opening instantly or you lose. It’s not that hard to lock it for 5 minutes or so and if it’s not complete they come become available, just like when you buy tickets to a concert, or any other high demand event.

As for bots, this system doesn’t hurt bots at all. A bot can hit buy faster than you can and can get to paypal much faster. Never mind that paying the fee for the bot (which I suspect would have to be customized), and for cloud servers to turn the bots, is probably not economical for something like this.

And if you think about it, if a bot can beat you with the system I’m talking about they can do it just as easily with the current system (if not more easily).
 
It can still be manipulated by bots and scammers though given it can be held in the cart for that period of time. If you have multiple accounts and can just mass add them to those accounts then it isn't too difficult to abuse it as all that stock is taken off the site. Back when Mondo did limited drops they used a system very similar to Manta. It's not ideal by any means (especially when you have something in your basket and get to the final stage of payment processing and get a message saying your basket is empty at the next stage), but I don't think the alternative is better in this scenario. With tickets for events where you have many thousands of tickets available it can work fine when you have a queuing system (especially as people will drop out in places), but with something with a much, much lower number count (especially after GBs) personally I don't think it's much better.
As I said to sbarker, if there are bots that are doing this, then they’re already grabbing most of them up. This site has no bot detection (not that I think that there’s a reliable way to detect bots that appear to be coming from houses and apartments—they use a vpn I’d never heard of called something like hola.

Personally, I don’t think it’s happening, because most don’t’ have the skill to write their own and paying for your own is likely to cost more than it’s worth to buy a handful of premiums each year (and obviously you’d need a different one for each site). My guess is it’d cost you hundreds/month.

But if you can code your own, then by all means, you should already be doing it. It’d be your best shot at getting a copy directly from Manta or Weet.

Hell the idea that I could get a OC and not have to get up as nearly as 4:50 in the morning would be worth it if not for the monthly cost.
 
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Based on all the listing on eBay for just something like the FS being @ £250 plus
The scalpers got most of them, a lot from Germany too.
 
No. you said it’d lock copies in a cart that never complete. That’s not what happens. IT’s in the cart and then it’s released.
as for being sold out quicker, you just hit reload a lot, which is literally what people are doing anyway (at least I do for weet, because stuff still goes in/out of stock.

Doing it the way they do it, adds complication for the user, because now you’ve gotta worry about paypal opening instantly or you lose. It’s not that hard to lock it for 5 minutes or so and if it’s not complete they come become available, just like when you buy tickets to a concert, or any other high demand event.

As for bots, this system doesn’t hurt bots at all. A bot can hit buy faster than you can and can get to paypal much faster. Never mind that paying the fee for the bot (which I suspect would have to be customized), and for cloud servers to turn the bots, is probably not economical for something like this.

And if you think about it, if a bot can beat you with the system I’m talking about they can do it just as easily with the current system (if not more easily).
You shouldn't have taken my wording that literally, I obviously didn't mean adding the item to your cart put it in there forever, I'm simplying saying you're locking up that inventory for a duration of time so the item can 'sell out' then copies start popping back up as they get released from some people's carts over whatever duration but ultimately you're still locking those items into a cart. My point being is your solution is introducing other problems, they may not be major but they are a consideration; every system is a set of trade offs but you can't solve this problem because the issue isn't the checkout process, it's the lack of supply.

I do agree it would be more pleasant for the people who get a copy into their shopping cart but now you have a bunch of people who instantly get smacked upside the head with sold out, just as many people still lose out, the failure point has just come a few steps sooner.

I don't think that's accurate with bots, because you have to go through the PayPal checkout manually whereas it's incredibly easy to automate the process into the shopping cart at Collectong so it would be very easy and cheap for someone to automate that without a lot of resources. We could go back and forth over these points but my main point can be boiled down to you cannot make a system that solves the problem of little to no supply for the biggest releases like Raimi's Spider-man because the problem is not the system.