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Prices fluctuate and chances are even the seller he got it from months ago, today, wouldn't be offering it at the same price.
The question is, where are all the anti-scalper ninjas and are they selling theirs? I assume they practice what they preach, so if any are reading, get in touch
Prices fluctuate and chances are even the seller he got it from months ago, today, wouldn't be offering it at the same price.
The question is, where are all the anti-scalper ninjas and are they selling theirs? I assume they practice what they preach, so if any are reading, get in touch
You might be right!
I try and keep my top items to trade for my top wants (therefore keeping expense down for me).
But even though there's a 'TRADE' forum, nobody seems wants to trade anymore. Only sell. For whatever reason. Whenever I ask for items I'm looking to trade for, I never get any replies/help.......
No, I didn't miss your point, I completely understand what you're saying, you don't want/can't pay the eBay going price for these and you hate scalpers because they won't sell at a price you're comfortable paying. Noted.I think you kinda missed the point...
But, nevermind....
I really do think you've hit the nail on the head with your point B.Just think about it... I believe this could have a logic:
A. maybe no real collector actually wants to sell something they have just one copy, but somehow they need some cash, therefore => SELL not trade
B. maybe the ones that are selling are not interested in trading because they don't give a s** on those things, they only see them as a means to make money, therefore => ALWAYS SALE, NEVER trade (why they would want bother to exchange when there's no profit in it, right?)
And in that case, if they need cash, wouldn't it make sense to get as much as you can? To cover that need of course.Just think about it... I believe this could have a logic:
A. maybe no real collector actually wants to sell something they have just one copy, but somehow they need some cash, therefore => SELL not trade
Not necessarily. A "scalper" may want to trade something with a non-scalper enthusiast in the case where his/her item isn't selling for an item that would, yet the non-scalper enthusiast isn't worried about that. He/she may not even be aware of what any of the items are going for as it's of no real importance to the non-scalper, unless it's all a charade.I really do think you've hit the nail on the head with your point B.
No, I didn't miss your point, I completely understand what you're saying, you don't want/can't pay the eBay going price for these and you hate scalpers because they won't sell at a price you're comfortable paying. Noted.
I'm making my own point as I'd also like to buy an edition of this, preferably the special pack. And hey, if someone's selling at GB price all the more reason to buy and support a fellow ninja.
Had I wanted to step on your toes I would have said I'd beat your offer by 5€, but I fear that may offend non-scalpers, so it's hard to know what to offer in such a case. Good luck in your search.
Who said I'm trying to help you? Have I said that before?Please be kind and illuminate me:
- how EXACTLY your point and you bringing it up here will help me or anyone who's asking for something here?
Thanks in advance!
And in that case, if they need cash, wouldn't it make sense to get as much as you can? To cover that need of course.
Who said I'm trying to help you? Have I said that before?
I'm trying to help myself. And maybe a fellow ninja that wants to sell. I'm in the market for a copy, just as you are. Well, you seem to only be interested in the OC, which is a little odd but ok...
What are you talking about?? This is ridiculous.Actually, if you stay with the item for months to hope to sale it at your higher price, I would certainly not call this "need for cash"!
Furthermore, I think I will unsubscribe to this thread, cause you clearly have one to sell for a high price and all you do is just try to justify your high price,
and honestly, I'm tired to just explain you that some of us, do actually have something else in our mind/brains than just to have a way/place/means
to make some profit extorting from some of us great amounts, that we would (sometimes) pay no-matter-what to get that "piece" we value OTHER than with money!
Have I? I thought your point was I was selling a copy. So, stating I am not selling but looking to buy proves your point? That's just nuts but whatever makes you happy.Thank you! You just proven my point!
Good points!I personally think anyone is entitled to sell what they want to whoever they want for how ever much they want.
No one is obligated to pay "scalper" prices but no one is obligated to sell a rare sought after item for face value. What is to say someone comes on here, cap in hand, requesting a hdzeta DC one click they missed out on and someone sells theirs to them for close to retail price just for that person to go on ebay and flip it.
On the other side of the "scalper accusation" coin you could say, yes that Blufans steelbook you want is £100 on ebay but if you have no intention to resell down the road and you "need" it for your collection then why not spend the £100 if there is no other option? If you're gonna keep it or need it to complete your set then paying for a sought after edition once in a while shouldn't be much of an issue - perhaps the real reason people screw over the inflated price because there is no resale margin in it for them either immediately or down the road and they know that, again, if you're never gonna sell it then why would that bother you.
As for trades, there is rarely a straight up trade in premiums these days. Your Ex Machine manta lab lenti vs my Doctor Strange blufans lenti isn't exactly a straight up trade given the value the latter has gone up since release yet people expect a straight trade...not gonna happen. It's easier to sell your edition on ebay, buy the one you want with the money and have some left in your pocket. It's common sense.
At the end of the day, a limited edition HDZETA boxset will have a 500 or 1000 print run to satisfy a world of collectors. People will miss out no matter what happens. There are always going to be new collectors joining the game on top of this who are gonna want to acquire long sold out releases so there will always be a premium aftermarket with aftermarket premium prices, even if you won't pay the price, someone else will.
And to be honest, I don’t like selling here, most people compare your selling price to the original price. People sometimes forget you could have bought your own item on eBay for a lot more.
eBay is much easier.
To start, this is just my feeling (but curious how others think about this), I have the feeling the people here more or less expect selling prices as they originally were (also because they have the knowledge, hence the lot of don’t want to pay scalper prices). On eBay people know they really need to pay for rare items. It’s supply and demand (if that’s the correct English saying)People will always compare, where's the harm in that? Unless you don't like communicating and explaining etc... for either lack of time or *fill the blank* and so on.
Anyway you could try listing in the steelbook premium marketplace (no fees for now), and then you can thank @apsmith21 for the implementation.
Link for those who might still be unaware: https://www.hidefninja.com/community/forums/premium-steelbook-seller-marketplace.349/
And how-to over here: https://www.hidefninja.com/community/threads/sticky-how-to-use-this-forum.95722/
What are you talking about?? This is ridiculous.
Scalpers don't extort anyone unless you're using that term really loosely.
I'm not sure you're reading my texts correctly as I've already stated twice (thrice now) that I'm also looking for a copy
I might be wrong but I think it just bothers you I jumped on the bandwagon of asking for a copy right after you did.
Have I? I thought your point was I was selling a copy. So, stating I am not selling but looking to buy proves your point? That's just nuts but whatever makes you happy.
I say again, good luck in your search
I personally think anyone is entitled to sell what they want to whoever they want for how ever much they want.
No one is obligated to pay "scalper" prices but no one is obligated to sell a rare sought after item for face value. What is to say someone comes on here, cap in hand, requesting a hdzeta DC one click they missed out on and someone sells theirs to them for close to retail price just for that person to go on ebay and flip it.
On the other side of the "scalper accusation" coin you could say, yes that Blufans steelbook you want is £100 on ebay but if you have no intention to resell down the road and you "need" it for your collection then why not spend the £100 if there is no other option? If you're gonna keep it or need it to complete your set then paying for a sought after edition once in a while shouldn't be much of an issue - perhaps the real reason people screw over the inflated price because there is no resale margin in it for them either immediately or down the road and they know that, again, if you're never gonna sell it then why would that bother you.
As for trades, there is rarely a straight up trade in premiums these days. Your Ex Machine manta lab lenti vs my Doctor Strange blufans lenti isn't exactly a straight up trade given the value the latter has gone up since release yet people expect a straight trade...not gonna happen. It's easier to sell your edition on ebay, buy the one you want with the money and have some left in your pocket. It's common sense.
At the end of the day, a limited edition HDZETA boxset will have a 500 or 1000 print run to satisfy a world of collectors. People will miss out no matter what happens. There are always going to be new collectors joining the game on top of this who are gonna want to acquire long sold out releases so there will always be a premium aftermarket with aftermarket premium prices, even if you won't pay the price, someone else will.
Good points!
After missing the GB (still frustrated about that hour to early live ) I paid €100 more for the boxset on eBay. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
In the early days of mankind trading was normal, but people also saw that it’s not always “fair”, voila the invention of money. It’s exactly as you describe in your post. Some items are valued a lot higher.
I have never traded and I think I never will. I’d rather sell items and buy back.
And to be honest, I don’t like selling here, most people compare your selling price to the original price. People sometimes forget you could have bought your own item on eBay for a lot more.
eBay is much easier.
...and I ignore the I don’t want pay eBay / scalper prices in the looking for threads. You already know upfront negotiating is going to be difficult.