Black Panther (3D+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Blufans Exclusive #48) [China]

[pbtour4il]

Release date: Late September 2018 (TBC)
Price: TBA
Note: The special empty box is available only when you buy Box set and 1/4 Slip together.
Group buy: One Click + 1/4 slip COMPLETE PACKAGE
ONE CLICK - DOUBLE LENTICULAR - SINGLE LENTICULAR - FULL SLIP - QUARTER SLIP (Storage box NOT included)

Important Group Buy update

Spoiler

Official update for all group buy participants -

The licensing agreement for Black Panther, for unknown reasons, still has not been resolved and because of this Infinity War will now be being released first (roughly early December time). The licensing agreement for Black Panther is looking to be completed around November time but because of the other releases (infinity War, Greatest Showman, Three Billboards), Black Panther will not ship until January 2019 at the earliest.

Infinity War will ship with the same editions (1/4 slip + Box, One Click, DL, SL and full slip)

Group Buy members, we have a couple of options for you -

1. Transfer
Your Black Panther request will automatically be transferred to the same edition to that of Avengers: Infinity War. You will then be guaranteed a spot for Black Panther, which will be charged for again later on in the year (or potentially January 2019)

2. Refund
You can cancel your Black Panther request and be refunded. Please note that should you change your mind afterwards we cannot allow you to repurchase Black Panther. At this time there will not be a further GB for it (however this may change although not guaranteed)

3. Wait it out
Wait for Black Panther to be released. If you decide to wait it out, as a thank you we will enter you into a HDN sponsored prize draw.

The official GB for Avengers: Infinity War won't be live until November.

I will be sending this as a PM to all participants tomorrow too with the relevant instructions.

Spoiler

Spoiler: Old artwork (Single Lenti)

 

[apsmith21]

Just casting a vote here, since someone (Wreck, I think) said earlier that they want to know what members think of this system: I think it's an awful idea. The people who put forth the most effort in obtaining a copy (dedicating time and energy to being there when the GB happens and being the fastest on the button) should be the people who get the copies. Period. Handing them out randomly is nuts. I've obtained whatever copy I wanted in every single GB I've seriously dedicated myself to here, no matter how limited the amount available. Now I might very well have something like a 30% or even 20% chance of getting something I would otherwise almost certainly succeed in getting. Just my opinion, I don't mean to offend anyone.

No offense taken at all - feedback is always appreciated. We don't need a forum of "yes" people, but on the other hand, trying to come up with a solution that's fair becomes challenging when the forum can't get all the copies that it can support.

So this is an open discussion, and as such, it's good to have people express their different viewpoints.

Someone is going to miss out, that's 100%

 

[IRON MAN]

I do however expect people to copy us. lol

As always.

 

[IRON MAN]

It is saddening to see that due to this potential 'lack of allocation', already the integrity of some of the people who will be running the GB/raffle/etc is being brought into question. These are people that have over the years given away a CRAZY amount of $£$£ worth during their Ninja Week giveaways, as well as other random giveaways, because they are kind and generous. Before I joined HiDefNinja, I had no idea that people were doing this kind of thing. It's even getting me to the point where I may start to join in and host my own giveaways, or sponsor a prize, etc.

I understand where some of these posts come from, and they (usually new'ish members) maybe think that because X shady site did it that it might happen here too but the upside is that these posts bring out people like yourself to remind them of everything HDN stands for and what its staff and mods have done over the years for the community.

 

[SteelbookGenius666]

I wonder what's going to win HDN Steelbook of the year?

 

[steven Taylor]

Personally I think it should be first come first served but it don't matter witch system is picked theres gonna be people pissing and moaning that they didn't get one..

 

[PKAVFC]

I think it’s a good idea. Time to stop the double dippers and profiteers where possible. Too many times are there those that cry foul for the sake of it, yet I come across them having 2 or more copies down the line via various sources they used to obtain them.

Try other methods if you like. Maybe a site where there is a yearly membership system where you have to pay a fee for the privilege in these type of instances and even then you are not guaranteed a copy!

On another group buy it’s a straight shoot out, fasted fingers first as they say.

I would go as far to say HDN could have also used criteria where entrants are also premium members, but they haven’t done that here.

 

[Wreck]

Just casting a vote here, since someone (Wreck, I think) said earlier that they want to know what members think of this system: I think it's an awful idea. The people who put forth the most effort in obtaining a copy (dedicating time and energy to being there when the GB happens and being the fastest on the button) should be the people who get the copies. Period. Handing them out randomly is nuts. I've obtained whatever copy I wanted in every single GB I've seriously dedicated myself to here, no matter how limited the amount available. Now I might very well have something like a 30% or even 20% chance of getting something I would otherwise almost certainly succeed in getting. Just my opinion, I don't mean to offend anyone.

No offense taken. For the most part tho, unless someone totally understands how we are planning on it ... then I'd prefer feedback afterwards instead of before. Not saying you yourself cant understand the concept, but there has definitely been a lot of answering of questions already that I mistakenly thought were just point blank obvious. No fault of theirs, I guess I was just naive.

Oh and if you have already had 100% success as mentioned in the past, then what are you worrying about lady luck is already on your side.

Another thought of mine, is that those same people who aren't dedicated (as some have been calling it ) who miss out on GBs already ... some will still miss out in the buying phase. We aren't going to chase people for payments, you won, you were tagged,notified etc, and you didn't pay in the allotted time well now it goes to someone else. I could definitely foresee some of those casual fans still not fulfilling in that sense. People will need to pay attention to that. Granted they may have more time in this format to have better success at paying attention. *shrug* Idk....

 

[Josebus]

I hope that the lucky ones in the raffle do not sell their copy for double or triple the price.

@Wreck You could establish that condition. The person who takes a copy can not sell it for more money. He must sell it for the price of GB.

 

[Basil]

@Wreck you considered getting a pre-order list, long before blufans have offered you numbers and say to them we can sell x amount of copies?
that way blufans could improve in its numbers on a run before putting in its order with scanavo even if months before the event?
also all sold without worry to them.
surely that would be more cutting edge?

for me personally i would prefer paying up front as well, knowing my copy was secured well in advance.

i personally will be away at start of june so regards raffle, you said end of june please please keep it there.
well at least till after 19th as where im going has no internet

basil

 

[Hac719]

@Wreck you considered getting a pre-order list, long before blufans have offered you numbers and say to them we can sell x amount of copies?
that way blufans could improve in its numbers on a run before putting in its order with scanavo even if months before the event?
also all sold without worry to them.
surely that would be more cutting edge?

for me personally i would prefer paying up front as well, knowing my copy was secured well in advance.

i personally will be away at start of june so regards raffle, you said end of june please please keep it there.
well at least till after 19th as where im going has no internet

basil

I’ve always wanted to ask, how do you pronounce your name?

Is it like the food or like the fellow from Austin Powers

 

[Basil]

I’ve always wanted to ask, how do you pronounce your name?

Is it like the food or like the fellow from Austin Powers

like the food i suppose.

or more like this in video

Spoiler: video

basil

 

[rschiks]

I hope that the lucky ones in the raffle do not sell their copy for double or triple the price.

@Wreck You could establish that condition. The person who takes a copy can not sell it for more money. He must sell it for the price of GB.

You can’t really require that. A person can do whatever he / she wants to do with it.
I think when the time is there you will see lots of pre-orders selling on eBay, like Thor: Ragnarok right now.

And to be honest, if it’s that difficult to get a copy, I might as well try my luck on eBay (if not picked in the raffle).....yes, you pay a high price for it, but this is what Blufans wants, right? Otherwise they make more of them.

So when not picked in the raffle, I really hope people will put them on eBay.
I’d really like to own a copy.

 

[Zagreus]

Sorry to be a bit dim bit can you guys keep me right here? When I was reading about the "raffle" I was worried because I never win anything and if it comes to drawing random names, I am not optimistic about being chosen. BUT, the example given with 20 names, 10 allocated, then the first 10 get copies...does this mean it IS first come first served?

 

[rschiks]

Sorry to be a bit dim bit can you guys keep me right here? When I was reading about the "raffle" I was worried because I never win anything and if it comes to drawing random names, I am not optimistic about being chosen. BUT, the example given with 20 names, 10 allocated, then the first 10 get copies...does this mean it IS first come first served?

No, the first 10 random names of all posts get a copy. Not the first 10 posted.

 

[Radagast]

You can’t really require that. A person can do whatever he / she wants to do with it.
I think when the time is there you will see lots of pre-orders selling on eBay, like Thor: Ragnarok right now.

And to be honest, if it’s that difficult to get a copy, I might as well try my luck on eBay (if not picked in the raffle).....yes, you pay a high price for it, but this is what Blufans wants, right? Otherwise they make more of them.

So when not picked in the raffle, I really hope people will put them on eBay.
I’d really like to own a copy.

So isses

If i don‘t get a OC through the raffle i will buy one at the bay.

 

[St4rlord]

I understand why this is being done and yes it is a fair method but why try to fix something that isn't broken? It's almost as if you're catering to those who complain they missed out on the group buys through nobody's fault but their own.


Just to establish a few things here for a second;

1. Everything hosts should do in group buys on here they have always done correctly in my opinion. Notice has always been given. Updates have always been provided. Information has been passed to buyers as quickly as it can be. etc.

2. People who complain about missing out on a copy [for whatever reason] is nobody's fault whatsoever other than their own, and if they claim it is not their own fault either because of
matters out of their control then that simply is life.

3. You're likely going to drive people away IF this catches on for future group buys and the same people are always unlucky enough to never bag a copy.

4. Finally...​

Group buys should be about effort and determination on the part of the buyer. Let the buyer come to the group buy, not the other way around. With this new method rightly or wrongly anybody can hop onto HDN, put their name down, win, bag a copy and then leave again [if previously entered one]. That's fair enough right as its open to all? But what about when that becomes swamped with non-regular members who just simply show up for this easy method rather than wanting to sit for weeks/months waiting around for it to go live and actually being here when it does?
It's so easy for anybody to just drop their name down for a copy to be entered into a raffle AND WIN... versus... being on here day in and day out, monitoring times going live , discussing the actual steelbook etc and having that excitement of hitting the 'buy now' button the moment it does go live. The latter method, the usual method, casts out all of those who simply cannot be bothered to be here on time and thus shows effort and determination on the part of the other buyers to actually be here for when the hosts have provided EVERYBODY with the same opportunity.

This shouldn't be about scalping, that will never be stopped. This should be about the right members doing the right thing at the right time.

I think it's the wrong thing to do but that's just my opinion. If this is just a trial for Black Panther or it's not something set in stone etc then fair enough but you really need to go back to thinking about the fact that none of us have to have our hands held here in terms of being here for a group buy on time.

 

[Flloydo]

I do hope this “raffle” is chosen before the other site GB goes live. Apart from eBay; HDN and the other site are my only 2 real options to buy this and blufans releases. And I’d rather not pay scalp eBay prices.
If I miss out here then I’ll HAVE to go to the other site and try my luck.

Personally I prefer the whole you got there first so you get a copy but I also give credit to @Wreck for trying somthing new considering we have all discussed this multiple times since Dr Strange. Ideally blufans should just make more. But it won’t happen. And production numbers don’t bother me, I just want one copy. As wreck stated this shouldn’t and probably won’t be the norm but they do randomly have some titles with very low numbers every so often

I know right now I’ll have the ump if I miss out on a marvel blufans and if I see that the majority who get them are “newbies” then even more so but I suppose that’s the way the cookie crumbles. Can’t please everyone and we all started somewhere. I will be annoyed though

Good luck to everyone in the raffle.... I suppose!

 

[DMD4k]

This should be about the right members doing the right thing at the right time.

But that's the thing. Presumably, the quantity alloted to HDN will probably not be enough to go around even for the "right members".

 

[DMD4k]

 

[St4rlord]

If I turn up at my local Tesco to buy a loaf of bread and there are none left on the shelves then I either buy an alternative or I come back again next time.
Granted, comparing a loaf of bread that gets re-stocked to a Steelbook set that never comes into print again is obviously a difference, but the principal is the same...

Where does the ownership of obtaining this product lie? With the buyer of course! If I go back again the next day at a random time and it's all sold out again then tough!

You turn up at a time you can make and it's either there or it isn't.

Creating this whole new system because of stock allocation and people complaining about missing out is
already flawed when you have no control over a) The retailer, and b) The buyer. You guys are the 'middle man' in all of this and creating yourselves a lot of work for nothing.
It feels like you are 'mollycoddling' members who cannot make adult decisions for themselves.
This is taking the approach in a different direction that won't provide a better result for anybody here, or in fact push the group buys in a more bitter direction when members who can
be bothered to show up on time, over and over, will ultimately now miss out completely. I know it can't be about 'the regulars' versus 'the newbies' because the site is here of course to
create new members... but mark my words, they will come, they will 'drop in' and and they will go... and then you'll lose some of your regular members (the guys who actually keep threads
healthy with long term discussion) who would be getting extremely annoyed with never obtaining a copy. Remember, it's already those same members who turn up to every group buy as advertised!
Do you really want them all jumping ship elsewhere? This isn't broke!

I don't dispute the system isn't fair, but it's already fair right now and the ownership is on us buyers ourselves to be here on time, on the advertised date. It's that simple.

Perhaps an opinion poll could have been created first taking into account ALL factors and go with the majority, but that's just me.



This was put out for discussion I do believe...? Just my opinion on the matter.