Black Panther (3D+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Blufans Exclusive #48) [China]

[pbtour4il]

Release date: Late September 2018 (TBC)
Price: TBA
Note: The special empty box is available only when you buy Box set and 1/4 Slip together.
Group buy: One Click + 1/4 slip COMPLETE PACKAGE
ONE CLICK - DOUBLE LENTICULAR - SINGLE LENTICULAR - FULL SLIP - QUARTER SLIP (Storage box NOT included)

Important Group Buy update

Spoiler

Official update for all group buy participants -

The licensing agreement for Black Panther, for unknown reasons, still has not been resolved and because of this Infinity War will now be being released first (roughly early December time). The licensing agreement for Black Panther is looking to be completed around November time but because of the other releases (infinity War, Greatest Showman, Three Billboards), Black Panther will not ship until January 2019 at the earliest.

Infinity War will ship with the same editions (1/4 slip + Box, One Click, DL, SL and full slip)

Group Buy members, we have a couple of options for you -

1. Transfer
Your Black Panther request will automatically be transferred to the same edition to that of Avengers: Infinity War. You will then be guaranteed a spot for Black Panther, which will be charged for again later on in the year (or potentially January 2019)

2. Refund
You can cancel your Black Panther request and be refunded. Please note that should you change your mind afterwards we cannot allow you to repurchase Black Panther. At this time there will not be a further GB for it (however this may change although not guaranteed)

3. Wait it out
Wait for Black Panther to be released. If you decide to wait it out, as a thank you we will enter you into a HDN sponsored prize draw.

The official GB for Avengers: Infinity War won't be live until November.

I will be sending this as a PM to all participants tomorrow too with the relevant instructions.

Spoiler

Spoiler: Old artwork (Single Lenti)

 

[BluSteel2012]

I would go as far to say HDN could have also used criteria where entrants are also premium members, but they haven’t done that here.

Yeah, I really think this should count for something too.

Before I became premium, I remember there used to exclusively be giveaways/competitions between premium members only. Even this has stopped now.

Since I've upgraded there's been no difference at all.

I don't see how someone who hasn't signed up for full membership should deserve an equal chance of obtaining something rare which the site can offer you over those who have. Especially if the only time you hear from them is when there's a raffle!

I know the mods are doing their best at trying out something fair. But I really don't think they've thought this option through fully.

 

[Hewitt89]

I can imagine that this site’s admins don’t want to force anyone to pay to able to participate in a GB. After all, you also pay HDN fee for GBs so in a way it would be double charging. But I wouldn’t mind it myself either if they decided so. Already planning to support, not for any perk though but only to support a community I have grown to like a lot.

 

[DMD4k]

I'm getting my popcorn. NOW this is getting interesting.

 

[sunnyx]

Yeah, that's more like 50 cents
You tried to argue both for and against but you wish it would favour the long-time participants. I think that's perfectly ok to say.

I argue if I was a Noob that started collecting or a Long term member.

I look at it from both sides.

It’s the same argument for re-releases pretty much.

Those that miss out welcome re-release because they don’t want to pay loads of money for it when it’s gone OOP.

Those that didn’t miss out tend to dislike re-releases because it devalues the original release (or previous releases).

Same applies here. If I was Noob and started collecting and realised that HDN just favoured the long term members I will be pretty cheesed off and think this site isn’t very fair is it?

Then the flip side is I’ve been here a long time don’t I deserve some credit and favouritism? It’s easy for me to say yeah favour us, the long term collectors! But all you will end up facing is a public backlash. The HDN community spirit, reputation and integrity that it has spent years building up can be seriously undermined and damaged for the sake of allowing members a ‘golden ticket’.

The difference with me is I don’t think for myself. I think what is best for a forum as a whole on the long term. Why do you think I will never join Media Pschos? Look who’s running it, Masterblaster who was a previous HDN corrupt GB host who finally got weeded out.

So my opinion? Following on the essay I wrote earlier, I say Wreck has made the right decision, give or take a few things to consider next time. Such as possible raise the number of Blufans participation if the next GB is very limited. Or if you want to ‘one click’ have a history of one clicks, etc.

 

[DMD4k]

I argue if I was a Noob that started collecting or a Long term member.

I look at it from both sides.

It’s the same argument for re-releases pretty much.

Those that miss out welcome re-release because they don’t want to pay loads of money for it when it’s gone OOP.

Those that didn’t miss out tend to dislike re-releases because it devalues the original release (or previous releases).

I'm a noob and I generally dislike re-releases. I understand the market, supply and demand and the nature of limited numbered editions.

Same applies here. If I was Noob and started collecting and realised that HDN just favoured the long term members I will be pretty cheesed off and think this site isn’t very fair is it?

Again, I'm a noob, I wouldn't mind it at all as long as it's not a last minute change. If it's to be that way I'd like to know ASAP, and no hard feelings, there's always other ways to get them. There is nothing unfair about offering dibs to those that have been with you the longest. But others have brought out the other side of that and it is that some noobs may feel left out. Not me, I'd understand it.

Then the flip side is I’ve been here a long time don’t I deserve some credit and favouritism? It’s easy for me to say yeah favour us, the long term collectors! But all you will end up facing is a public backlash. The HDN community spirit, reputation and integrity that it has spent years building up can be seriously be undermined and damaged for the sake of allowing members a ‘golden ticket’.

True. Not from me, but most likely true. Something else, there's probably not enough to go around for premium supporters either lol Also, anyone can be a premium supporter. I could be one tomorrow. I'd still be a noob... so "premium supporter" and long-term collector is not the same thing. Maybe they could say, ok, we're only letting those that joined in 2015 and earlier get a copy... I think you lean more towards increasing the GBs you've taken part in to enter the raffle. Am I right?

Such as possible raise the number of Blufans participation if the next GB is very limited. Or if you want to ‘one click’ have a history of one clicks, etc.

Exactly what I thought you'd say.

 

[DMD4k]

There's a lot of "scalper" hate on the forum, I understand why. One of the reasons people dislike them is they take up copies that could go to genuine collector's homes, right?
So who's to say that someone who has taken part in 10 GBs will cherrish his copy more than another member who has just taken part in 3 GBs? Or 2 GBs? Or never bought a Blufans edition before but has been a huge Black Panther fan since he/she first glanced a BP comic back in the 70s given to him/her by their dad before passing away?

 

[sunnyx]

@DMD4k - lol you are one of the very few 'Noob' newbie collector that does not favour re-releases! 99% hate paying inflated prices and welcome re-releases. It's not often you come cross members like this

HDN is a family friendly community with ethics to attract and welcome new members. It's a fundamental ethical core value that cannot be undermined in any circumstances. If HDN favours members, it will breach this core value. Yes I can say, 'I don't give a crap, I care for myself, I got my one click, those Noobs will have to wait in line ). But that is certainly not a considerate long term reflection on what is best for the forum. Good for me obviously, but I would rather NOT have a golden ticket or favourtism and play it fair.

So Guys, give @Wreck and HDN a break, just enjoy the build up to the lucky dip. You miss out, then you miss out, at least you don't have to moan about not being their on time, and all the dozen excuses I seen

 

[Stygian]

Yeah, I really think this should count for something too.

Before I became premium, I remember there used to exclusively be giveaways/competitions between premium members only. Even this has stopped now.

Since I've upgraded there's been no difference at all.

I don't see how someone who hasn't signed up for full membership should deserve an equal chance of obtaining something rare which the site can offer you over those who have. Especially if the only time you hear from them is when there's a raffle!

I know the mods are doing their best at trying out something fair. But I really don't think they've thought this option through fully.

You do realize of course that even if this was limited to "premium supporters" there still won't be enough to go around if this is indeed limited?

No system is going to guarantee that everyone in a selected group would receive a copy who wanted one.
I wonder how many HDN members would qualify to purchase a copy here at HDN if it was limited to only members who have purchased an item from every HDN Blufans Group Buy?
Why not give that a shot? Wouldn't that be fair to all of the long time members? I think that approach worked really well when whatever company that released the Wolf Of Wall Street limited that release to 101 copies although it wasn't a group buy.

I always disagree with those who want preferential treatment of any kind for anything but I think most of you already know that.

@Wreck Make it fair for everybody. Either use the old system or use a raffle/lottery for the hopefully rare occasions where there are less copies than usual. Let the chips fall where they may and when it's all over but the crying, I'm sure that you'll find that the only people crying will be the ones that are selfish, self-centred and feel entitled that missed out.

Of course, all of this may have been for nothing if there turns out to be enough copies to go around.
But when it comes to Marvel, are there ever?

Good luck to all.

 

[Stygian]

There's a lot of "scalper" hate on the forum, I understand why. One of the reasons people dislike them is they take up copies that could go to genuine collector's homes, right?

What reason is there to think that scalped items don't go to genuine collector's homes?
Do you think that people who pay higher than retail for items aren't genuine collectors?

 

[DMD4k]

What reason is there to think that scalped items don't go to genuine collector's homes?
Do you think that people who pay higher than retail for items aren't genuine collectors?

Not at all, quite the contrary. I even think, at least some, scalpers are genuine collectors themselves. I am not against scalping. I was using that to make the point that followed.

 

[sunnyx]

Not at all, quite the contrary. I even think, at least some, scalpers are genuine collectors themselves. I am not against scalping. I was using that to make the point that followed.

This is one of the most sticky subjects.
Here is a list of topics which we should all try and avoid if we can

• Scalpers / Re-sellers
• Open vs Sealed
• 3D vs 4K (probably the most boring subject)
• How to host a highly sought and very limited 'blood bath' GB

Edit - How can we forget!

• Re-releases

 

[frankfish44]

There's a lot of "scalper" hate on the forum, I understand why. One of the reasons people dislike them is they take up copies that could go to genuine collector's homes, right?

Steelbook collecting is more complicated than just getting what you want. Due to the everyday pressures to provide not only for ourselves but also for our loved ones, funds are not always free flowing to accomplish this and collecting. Many get an extra copy to trade or sell later to fund other purchases. Nothing wrong with this IMO. As a collector, this is necessary part of any hobby if it is to remain sustainable. The ability for those collecting to flip something for even a small gain is fundamental. Knowing that you just are not throwing money down a bottomless pit for me is key. If I ever decide to get out, can I recoup some of what I put into it? If yes, then that is a good hobby to indulge in.

 

[DMD4k]

Steelbook collecting is more complicated than just getting what you want. Due to the everyday pressures to provide not only for ourselves but also for our loved ones, funds are not always free flowing to accomplish this and collecting. Many get an extra copy to trade or sell later to fund other purchases. Nothing wrong with this IMO. As a collector, this is necessary part of any hobby if it is to remain sustainable. The ability for those collecting to flip something for even a small gain is fundamental. Knowing that you just are not throwing money down a bottomless pit for me is key. If I ever decide to get out, can I recoup some of what I put into it? If yes, then that is a good hobby to indulge in.

Please note that was not my opinion, I was just writing down what I have noticed is the general trend, that there is a general dislike for scalpers on the forum. And I was using that to make the point that followed.

Serves me right for making that point LOL

 

[SteelCollz]

A raffle is probably about the fairest method to be used here. Just think about it: if the GB were to go live a minute before or after the announced time; the server overloads, the system oversells & copies have to be cancelled. That would generate even more pain for most. There is too much demand and too few copies to go around. It's as basic as that. HDN tried its best to source as many copies as possible and a raffle is basing everything on luck and not on timing, possible server issues, etc. I think it's a good idea and should be accepted as how it's going down as it has been announced this way. There is no possibility where everyone will be left satisfied in the end due to the lack of sufficient copies. Sucks -of course- but one shouldn't criticise HDN for it. Just my two cents, people. And good luck everyone with the raffle!

 

[Hewitt89]

A raffle is probably about the fairest method to be used here. Just think about it: if the GB were to go live a minute before or after the announced time; the server overloads, the system oversells & copies have to be cancelled. That would generate even more pain for most. There is too much demand and too few copies to go around. It's as basic as that. HDN tried its best to source as many copies as possible and a raffle is basing everything on luck and not on timing, possible server issues, etc. I think it's a good idea and should be accepted as how it's going down as it has been announced this way. There is no possibility where everyone will be left satisfied in the end due to the lack of sufficient copies. Sucks -of course- but one shouldn't criticise HDN for it. Just my two cents, people. And good luck everyone with the raffle!

Just to clarify though, number of copies aren’t known to HDN yet and the raffles isn’t actually confirmed as of yet, it depends on number of copies they get.

As for the live time, personally I think the live window of a few hours have worked very well. Not always the best to combine with stuff in life but it makes sure everyone interested needs to stay alert.

 

[Ranavalone]

I can imagine that this site’s admins don’t want to force anyone to pay to able to participate in a GB. After all, you also pay HDN fee for GBs so in a way it would be double charging. But I wouldn’t mind it myself either if they decided so. Already planning to support, not for any perk though but only to support a community I have grown to like a lot.

HDN fees are not charged for Blufans GBs.

 

[frankfish44]

Please note that was not my opinion, I was just writing down what I have noticed is the general trend, that there is a general dislike for scalpers on the forum. And I was using that to make the point that followed.

Serves me right for making that point LOL

Yep.....lesson learnt

The hypocrisy of some of these haters though. Know of a couple who ask for items to be at or below cost all the time. Recently they updated their thread and i was like Nothing anywhere near cost.

 

[SlimJim24]

Remember back in the day when this thread was about black panther?

 

[StifflersDad]

Yep.....lesson learnt

The hypocrisy of some of these haters though. Know of a couple who ask for items to be at or below cost all the time. Recently they updated their thread and i was like Nothing anywhere near cost.[/QUOTE]
Amen to that brother

 

[DMD4k]

Remember back in the day when this thread was about black panther?

Lmao Now it’s about all things black panther, most importantly, how to get our hands on one.