Coco (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Blufans Exclusive #46) [China]

Aug 25, 2011
4,038
Hong Kong
Release date: TBA
GB Price: One Click $175.99/Double Lenti $67.99/Single Lenti $62.99/Full Slip $60.00/Quarter slip $56.99
Group buy: To be hosted by Cooey HERE - GB will be live 2nd June!! Will be live at a random time between 4PM - 6PM UK time
Notes:
Will not include a 3D disc

Double Lenti | Single Lenti | Full Slip | Box set (includes Double and Single Lentis + Full Slip) | Quarter Slip (not included in the box set)

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see no problem here :D
fun aside ...collecting blufans is no fun anymore and that's why I want to buy less of them.
I understand, but if I look objectively, I already got quite some BluFans releases and only 1 of them was damaged. I got a refund for that.
I still think they don’t take it serious enough. Why ship the Coco one clicks without the inner box like they did with Thor? Why? You want your customers to have a great experience, right? Not the experience of being afraid of receiving it damaged.
I guess they don’t mind bad publicity. Probably a sign that everything is going great, too great.
 
Why ship the Coco one clicks without the inner box like they did with Thor? Why? You want your customers to have a great experience, right? Not the experience of being afraid of receiving it damaged.
I guess they don’t mind bad publicity. Probably a sign that everything is going great, too great.
Yep I am done with one clicks after this until they get their **** together.
 
No, that was too simplistic. I have followed that rabbit trail a little more though. Hear me out and please pitch in and/or correct me if I'm wrong at any point. That goes for everyone, not just @rschiks .

- We have two main Chinese airports where packages from both of the main Chinese players are flying out from, Beijing (HDZ) and Shanghai (BF).
- We (when I say we, I mean HDN as a whole) are mostly receiving damaged packages from Blufans, not from HDZ. Having said that I would guess, cooey or another GB host may be able to confirm/deny, that the percentage of damaged packages is still relatively small. Negligible in the case of HDZ.
- China's main western trading partners, according to google sources, are USA (19% of total Chinese exports), Germany (3.1%), Netherlands (3%), UK (2.5%).
- According to wikipedia, Beijing airport moves 95 million people... that's a **** load of people. And moves 1.8 million tons of cargo.
- Also according to wikipedia, Shanghai airport moves 66 million people, that's a lot, not as much as Beijing, but still a lot. Shanghai, however, moves 3.4 million tons of cargo. That's approximately double than the cargo going through Beijing.
- Cargo can be sent over in dedicated cargo airplanes but also in your regular passenger airlines cargo hold. I have not looked into what China Post use, they may use both.
- More passengers in Beijing means more airplanes, more airplanes and half the cargo could mean, in general terms, the cargo doesn't travel as tight.
- In Shanghai we now have double the cargo that needs to fly out in a smaller amount of airplanes... less passenger airplanes at least.
- If we look at the whole picture... We likely have more packed airplanes flying to the USA, UK, Germany and Netherlands than to Spain, for example. That's for either point of origin.
- I have not researched this either, but it wouldn't surprise me if the USA, though it would logically receive a greater amount of cargo than Germany, Netherlands and UK, would probably also have a greater number of flights departing every day than the other three countries. So that could explain why we get more damaged packages in the UK, Germany (and maybe NL?) than the USA.
- Do we also have more regular members from the UK than from the USA, at least regulars for Blufans GBs? I might be completely wrong on this assumption.

But yeah, that's about what I've been able to come up with. None of this rules out any damage to any other package going to France, Italy, Norway, Mexico, Australia, wherever... all I'm trying to explain is why the higher incidence of damaged packages in certain countries and not in others and why this is going to be hard to correct. Unless this is happening at Blufans' warehouse, and I really doubt that's it, then they really have no sure way of solving this because it's not something they can control.

This is just my working theory, I'll keep tweaking it and hopefully something useful will come from it.

P.S. I am making certain assumptions (at first glance they could be reasonable assumptions), like an equal % of cargo being delivered to each country by air as it is by sea. That could be wrong. If it is wrong, then that would also explain why the USA gets less damaged products because out of the 4 main countries I mentioned it is the USA that would likely get most of it's cargo by sea.

some interesting takes, but as a person who once used to pack airplane cargo containers some 15 years ago its not about squashing boxes to fit more in. That happens naturally just fine when using a t-stacking method. It is by and far that they use a Company and or have in place a contract etc. for cheaper post options. they have not done the packing themselves for some time now. I think the Company they use who manages that does a great job , but its the logistics in between from once they are packed to getting on the airplanes. Most have seen those crazy gifs online of how a lot of Asian Countries are throwing packages left and right and the way some of these boxes are smashed whether its pictures from ones in the USA, UK or wherever I've almost wondered if they are using fork lifts or front end loaders and moving packages and dumping packages in mass as these are not soft kimchi like boxes, these are hard corrugated and having used 200 pound crush proof boxes these are at least 150 if not 200 as well. So I'd bet high and large there is mechanics at work here in some shape or form.

The cost is worth it for blufans hence why they just keep trying to protect the boxes better. I was thinking the double box thor way would be a much better step forward.
 
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some interesting takes, but as a person who once used to pack airplane cargo containers some 15 years ago its not about squashing boxes to fit more in. That happens naturally just fine when using a t-stacking method. It is by and far that they use a Company and or have in place a contract etc. for cheaper post options. they have not done the packing themselves for some time now. I think the Company they use who manages that does a great job , but its the logistics in between from once they are packed to getting on the airplanes. Most have seen those crazy gifs online of how a lot of Asian Countries are throwing packages left and right and the way some of these boxes are smashed whether its pictures from ones in the USA, UK or wherever I've almost wondered if they are using fork lifts or front end loaders and moving packages and dumping packages in mass as these are not soft kimchi like boxes, these are hard corrugated and having used 200 pound crush proof boxes these are at least 150 if not 200 as well. So I'd bet high and large there is mechanics at work here in some shape or form.

The cost is worth it for blufans hence why they just keep trying to protect the boxes better. I was thinking the double box thor way would be a much better step forward.
That's some good input Wreck, thanks. The beauty of it is the damage doesn't have to happen while on the plane... in fact, as you say, as they travel in containers, it's more probable that the damage happens once it's sorted to go to a certain destination but before going on the plane.
 
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