Drive (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Manta Lab Exclusive No. 31) [Hong Kong]

[IRON MAN]

Release date: March 31, 2021
Purchase links: Full Slip - Single Lenti - Double Lenti - Box Set (Pre-order February 5 at 8 PM - Hong Kong time)
Price: $41.99 (Full Slip) - $42.99 (Single Lenti) - $43.99 (Double Lenti) - $149.97 (Box Set)
Group buy: hosted by Aniv Full Slip - Single Lenti - Double Lenti - Box Set
Note:
WEA, Exclusive Steelcase designed by Manta Lab x Rory Kurtz features "Full Glossy" Finish and "Debossed Title".
One Click: Scorpion jacket design fabric cover with inner box. 600 sets, Numbered 1-600. (Limited to 1 copy per order).
Full Slip: Spot Glossy, Scratch Resistance Coating, Embossing, Foil. 1000 Units, Numbered 1-1000. (Limited to 2 copies per order).
Lenticular Full Slip: 3D Lenticular, Spot Glossy, Spot Matte, Scratch Resistance Coating, Embossing. 1000 Units, Numbered 1-1000. (Limited to 2 copies per order).
Double Lenticular Full Slip: 2 x 3D Lenticular, Spot Glossy, Spot Matte, Embossing. 1000 Units, Numbered 1-1000. (Limited to 2 copies per order).
Premiums: Booklet, Postcards, Character Cards, Envelope, Exclusive Numbering Sticker, Exclusive Release Front Sticker, Exclusive Release Lenticular Sticker.

Spoiler

 

[tha_lunatic]

Who opens their premiums

dont laugh about people with handicaps

 

[snooloui]

That rule is abolished, yes. Meaning we'll have to pay £3 upfront on £15 orders now, whereas they were previously tax free. It doesn't seem to be as cut and dry as "you will be charged vat on all overseas packages" to me though..

If you read through the page it details where this is applicable. It also states that the vat is to be charged by the retailer to the customer at the point of sale and will not be collected at the point of import as it is now.

So really, if we aren't charged for it upfront, there shouldn't be a way for it to be charged at delivery. Partial upside being if it's done this way it'll only ever be a max of 20% of item value and not the current customs rate (usually 21-23%) plus the £9 Royal mail handling charge.

Possible there's little to stop someone like manta just collecting 20% of $15 as a tax fee, as this is what they've declared their package value as to customs. Have to wait and see on that one..

Otherwise, for sellers that don't typically customs dodge, this will result in a few % less in duty paid and no processing fee to due royal mail from the consumer.

Private sales, gifts and B2B sales over £135 all seem to be exempt from this with existing rules applicable. Exact wording below;

"Online marketplaces (OMPs), where they are involved in facilitating the sale, will be responsible for collecting and accounting for the VAT.

For goods sent from overseas and sold directly to UK consumers without OMP involvement, the overseas seller will be required to register and account for the VAT to HMRC.

Business to business sales not exceeding £135 in value will also be subject to the new rules. However, where the business customer is VAT registered in the UK and provides its valid VAT registration number to the seller, the VAT will be accounted for by the customer by means of a reverse charge.

The changes will not apply to consignments of goods containing excise goods or to non- commercial transactions between private individuals. Existing rules will continue to apply for these transactions."

That page was also last updated 3rd Dec, whereas the EU trade agreements were made 3 weeks afterwards. So im fairly positive there are no changes to EU to UK purchases.

I am not sure this is a Brexit related issue. The EU are making the same change from July 1st. eBay is certainly adding 20% VAT to EU imports and some EU and non-EU based retailers are refusing to ship to the UK due to the new rules. There is certainly a lot of confusion at the moment though. If this is indeed the new rule, then retailers will either register with HMRC and collect the VAT or refuse to ship to the UK (smaller retailers may decide it's not worth the hassle).

 

[samdavies]

I am not sure this is a Brexit related issue. The EU are making the same change from July 1st. eBay is certainly adding 20% VAT to EU imports and some EU and non-EU based retailers are refusing to ship to the UK due to the new rules. There is certainly a lot of confusion at the moment though. If this is indeed the new rule, then retailers will either register with HMRC and collect the VAT or refuse to ship to the UK (smaller retailers may decide it's not worth the hassle).

Yes I've seen charges on ebay listings already this week from USA, so it's in place there. Amazon EU aren't charging it though, which adds fuel to my thinking it's not EU applicable, just ROW.

You're quite right with that thinking though, companies will need to be VAT registered in order to sell to UK consumers under these rules. I suspect plenty will not and simply refuse to ship to here! It'll be a wait and see kind of year, I just hope it doesn't go completely tits up for us

 

[Flloydo]

Wait, what? My bad if I've slept on this, but I thought EU to UK purchases were the same as they've always been since the free trade agreement was reached?

Also, haven't we always been subject to 20% vat customs duty on imports from outside the EU if marked over £15? So is there anything new there if parcels are marked lower value like most premiums are?

Hope I am, as it could get pricey otherwise. I think the EU is safe, thats what I got from the trade deal announcement anyway. Amazon EU aren't adding tax to orders to the UK, which judging by the US order's they probably would.

Ebay has little notes on some (but not all) listings from the US and Asia etc.. I've seen recently saying "plus 20% vat", so that might be true for outside EU orders. Unclear if that's applicable to items under £15.. even if it is then that's all of a £3 charge.

I thought the same thing but reading the Government guidelines, it seems that all imports will now be subject to VAT. Low Value Consignment Relief has been completely abolished, so marking down the value of a package will no longer allow you to avoid VAT and fees. More info here:

Changes to VAT treatment of overseas goods sold to customers from 1 January 2021

www.gov.uk

That rule is abolished, yes. Meaning we'll have to pay £3 upfront on £15 orders now, whereas they were previously tax free. It doesn't seem to be as cut and dry as "you will be charged vat on all overseas packages" to me though..

If you read through the page it details where this is applicable. It also states that the vat is to be charged by the retailer to the customer at the point of sale and will not be collected at the point of import as it is now.

So really, if we aren't charged for it upfront, there shouldn't be a way for it to be charged at delivery. Partial upside being if it's done this way it'll only ever be a max of 20% of item value and not the current customs rate (usually 21-23%) plus the £9 Royal mail handling charge.

Possible there's little to stop someone like manta just collecting 20% of $15 as a tax fee, as this is what they've declared their package value as to customs. Have to wait and see on that one..

Otherwise, for sellers that don't typically customs dodge, this will result in a few % less in duty paid and no processing fee to due royal mail from the consumer.

Private sales, gifts and B2B sales over £135 all seem to be exempt from this with existing rules applicable. Exact wording below;

"Online marketplaces (OMPs), where they are involved in facilitating the sale, will be responsible for collecting and accounting for the VAT.

For goods sent from overseas and sold directly to UK consumers without OMP involvement, the overseas seller will be required to register and account for the VAT to HMRC.

Business to business sales not exceeding £135 in value will also be subject to the new rules. However, where the business customer is VAT registered in the UK and provides its valid VAT registration number to the seller, the VAT will be accounted for by the customer by means of a reverse charge.

The changes will not apply to consignments of goods containing excise goods or to non- commercial transactions between private individuals. Existing rules will continue to apply for these transactions."

That page was also last updated 3rd Dec, whereas the EU trade agreements were made 3 weeks afterwards. So im fairly positive there are no changes to EU to UK purchases.

I am not sure this is a Brexit related issue. The EU are making the same change from July 1st. eBay is certainly adding 20% VAT to EU imports and some EU and non-EU based retailers are refusing to ship to the UK due to the new rules. There is certainly a lot of confusion at the moment though. If this is indeed the new rule, then retailers will either register with HMRC and collect the VAT or refuse to ship to the UK (smaller retailers may decide it's not worth the hassle).

Yes I've seen charges on ebay listings already this week from USA, so it's in place there. Amazon EU aren't charging it though, which adds fuel to my thinking it's not EU applicable, just ROW.

You're quite right with that thinking though, companies will need to be VAT registered in order to sell to UK consumers under these rules. I suspect plenty will not and simply refuse to ship to here! It'll be a wait and see kind of year, I just hope it doesn't go completely tits up for us

yeah all I’m seeing on eBay now is this 20% extra VAT from US and Canadian sellers and although what some of you are saying it’s all a tad bit confusing and up in the air at the moment. I also think it will be a case of some companies refusing to ship here. It’s certainly a pretty dire Situation but I suppose we’ll have to wait and see out of the Asian premium retailers to first put something up for sale. Maybe this will be the first (manta drive).

Ive also noticed shipping from the US and Canada changed dramatically the second midnight struck on the new year.

 

[StifflersDad]

European Amazon are charging import duty on orders to UK that total over 135£.
Below that amount it's more or less business as usual from Amazon.

 

[samdavies]

European Amazon are charging import duty on orders to UK that total over 135£.
Below that amount it's more or less business as usual from Amazon.

Good to know. I couldn't see any charges on attempted orders, saying that it's exceedingly unlikely I'll be buying any over that value from amazon EU anyway.

Assume that's going to be the limit for all EU to UK purchases then. Not ideal for all, but I can live with it. More than covers a single FAC editon. Maniacs boxes though, that'll sting

 

[gAnX]

Need to wait and see what happens to my Dunkirk order first before buying from collectong again. HongKongdontknowwhatsgoingonPostalService

 

[Noodles]

Pass.

 

[zeebeer]

Pass.

On a Drive steel with Rory Kurtz art?!

 

[ethnosax]

Pass.

Mike Mitchell Drive art passing on Rory Kurtz Drive art. Ouch.

 

[tha_lunatic]

Pass.

 

[jonnybobbytimmy]

Pass.

 

[TheJoker]

This release looks to be a @Noodles wet dream come to life. Haha.

Looks fantastic though. I have the Mondo and the Nova Drive, think I have the HMV one too but this one looks too good to pass up. Hope I can snag one.

 

[Mickle_89]

Pass.

Feeling better now?

 

[spass]

i dont know why, but somehow i think you hate this movie

True. It's rubbish.

@spass that literally must have taken you about half an hour to layout. Kudos!

Thanks. Yup, it took a while.

 

[Noodles]

On a Drive steel with Rory Kurtz art?!

Mike Mitchell Drive art passing on Rory Kurtz Drive art. Ouch.

This release looks to be a @Noodles wet dream come to life. Haha.

Feeling better now?

Thanks for knocking some sense into me! Guess I'll one-click it after all.

 

[Noodles]

But yeah, jokes aside... best looking steel yet for this film IMO. Super excited to see the slips! This'll actually be my first Manta one-click... if I'm lucky enough to secure one that is.

 

[Mickle_89]

Thanks for knocking some sense into me! Guess I'll one-click it after all.

Happy to knock sense in to you anytime, and help you spend your money

 

[nafosb]

But I have a closet full of Drives.

 

[tha_lunatic]

But I have a closet full of Drives.

not enough