Iron Man (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Future Shop Exclusive) [Canada]

[the_ps_hero]

Release date: September 30, 2008
Original release price: 29.99$
Notes: 2 discs

Spoiler: Specs

Video: 1080p High Definition 16x9
Audio: 5.1 TrueHD Dolby – English
5.1 Dolby Digital – French
5.1 Dolby Digital - Spanish

Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Special Features:
Hall of Armour
The Invincible Iron Man
Deleted/Extended Scenes
BD Live
I Am Iron Man
Visual Effects
Robert Downey Jr. Screen Test
Theatrical Trailers
Galleries
Credits
Iron Man IQ

 

[Sigill]

The steelbook came out in 2008, is staying on topic really important at this juncture of its release time?[COLOR="Silver]

We try and keep all the threads on topic regardless of when the release dates were. That way members can find out information about the actual steelbook rather than having to read through pages of ebay and reselling chat. We have a seperate thread for members to discuss ebay prices.

 

[justhedudeman]

We try and keep all the threads on topic regardless of when the release dates were. That way members can find out information about the actual steelbook rather than having to read through pages of ebay and reselling chat. We have a seperate thread for members to discuss ebay prices.

I understand many people are probably searching this thread for very pertinent info about this steelbook. I wish there was other websites that someone could also use to search for various info on steelbooks.

 

[digitalbabe]

Rick-well put. 'Value' is assigned to collectibles differently for different people. Regardless if a reprint with the same artwork would deminish or not deminish the 'cost'...for some collectors the fact that they have the 'original' is what matters, and a reprint deminishes 'personal' value and uniqueness, for that particular collector. I joined the Steelbook hobby a bit after Iron Man was sold at FS, myself, and I don't own this, because I am not that huge of a fan, especially not to pay a few hundred for this. However, I have other items in my collection of movies and other things, for which I paid more, because I wanted to have the 'unique' item-regardless of resale value. There are members on every single forum, who purchase for resale-and that is their prerogative.

But, for some, regardless of the price tag attacked-for a limited release, they want to know that it will remain limited...nothing wrong with that.

The flipside is that collectors join the Steelbook hobby every day. So they may not wish to pay $100's for one title, and maybe they do. In the case where they don't, the 'other' releases that are made of titles like these-which were already released, provide a '2nd chance' to own the title without the price tag. However, the 2nd release, does not have the same features and art as the first, and I believe it should stay that way, for the sake of uniqueness-I personally couldn't care less about resale values, but understand the entire 'game' of doing so.

Steelbook collecting is not the first and last hobby where people have different 'perspectives' when it comes to why they collect, and whether or not the 'original' matters or not. This debate has gone on for years, and it always boils down to the same thing-why do you collect, and what matters to the individual collector, as far as how 'value' is assigned (uniqueness vs. cost, etc).

 

[mnementh]

I still have hope that I'll find this for a reasonable price one day

 

[matthewtheunicorn]

I still have hope that I'll find this for a reasonable price one day

It was a huge print run and a popular film released at the time of the amaray. I assume many people own it without knowledge of what it's worth. It's sicken to think how many have probably been traded in or sold for under 5 quid in a garage/ car boot sale

 

[earthscope]

I'm lucky to have this in my collection and don't ever want to see this re-released...

Leave the greats alone I say.

 

[blurayisnice]

price of this one will probably fall in case of)

1) exact reprint (highly doubt that will ever happen)
2) in 3-5 years when blu-ray in general is not so popular anymore or
3) when steelbooks are not so popular anymore

And with reasonable I mean like at the lowest around $100 (which is still a lot)
Don't think you'll ever get one for $30 or somethign

 

[rodobastos]

I'm lucky to have this in my collection and don't ever want to see this re-released...

Leave the greats alone I say.

I'm not lucky to have this in my collection and want to see this re-released..

 

[sunnyx]

IMO this is probably one of the most sought grails ever created in this market. NOT the most expensive grail, but the MOST sought.

I did own this and it is a superb steelbook. However, if the identical artwork was released, it will destroy this hobby. It's best just to leave this the way it is and respect the original release. After all, 'limited' are limited editions don't you agree?

 

[SonicBoom]

Lots of discussion, but only a few points I would like to make (and I will keep it on-topic to IRON MAN to please the mods).

I never stated whether I have this release or not, which is really irrelevant and no, I do not think of myself as 'selfish' because I believe that SBs are for the masses and don't mind if they re-release everything because in the end, these are not really limited editions, but marketing gimmicks. As a result of sales, some of these will end up being limited editions though.

Having said that, there is a reason why this particular SB still garners a high price. It is one of the few left that has not been re-released. Anyone who remembers I AM LEGEND or STAR TREK can attest to this. There is still JOHN RAMBO of course, but I guess people realize now that the movie is junk.

I also think this hobby will survive fine with a re-release of IRON MAN -- just as others were re-released. In fact, the hobby may even grow because of it.

People have to realize that collecting itself is a self-destructive hobby, and just collect for the pure enjoyment of owning the SB for yourself. SBs are not very good investments.

Lastly,

Steelbook collecting is not the first and last hobby where people have different 'perspectives' when it comes to why they collect, and whether or not the 'original' matters or not. This debate has gone on for years, and it always boils down to the same thing-why do you collect, and what matters to the individual collector, as far as how 'value' is assigned (uniqueness vs. cost, etc).

If this is true, then HDN should not prevent anyone from petitioning a re-release of IRON MAN or any title. They should stay non-partisan and let nature take its course. Inserting themselves as a blockade from what collectors want is wrong, in my opinion, and does not classify as a 'free forum' where people are open to share ideas.

It's not like HDN is single-handedly preventing this re-release anyhow. Studios and retailers still have to be won over. They work for business and money unlike HDN. It not as easy as creating a petition and then poof, there is a re-release.

In the end, if anyone out there really wants one, all they have to do is wait. There are enough of these in collector's hands that in 5-10 years, you can probably find them in the bargain bins -- esp. in Canada, where it has already started happening.

 

[Afterdeep]

price of this one will probably fall in case of)

1) exact reprint (highly doubt that will ever happen)
2) in 3-5 years when blu-ray in general is not so popular anymore or
3) when steelbooks are not so popular anymore

Strongly agree with the second and the third option. Hope we wont be sad in the future for spending that much money into this hobby as newer technology will come and they will be worthless slowly like VCDs or DVDs...

 

[stevo]

Lots of discussion, but only a few points I would like to make (and I will keep it on-topic to IRON MAN to please the mods).

I never stated whether I have this release or not, which is really irrelevant and no, I do not think of myself as 'selfish' because I believe that SBs are for the masses and don't mind if they re-release everything because in the end, these are not really limited editions, but marketing gimmicks. As a result of sales, some of these will end up being limited editions though.

Having said that, there is a reason why this particular SB still garners a high price. It is one of the few left that has not been re-released. Anyone who remembers I AM LEGEND or STAR TREK can attest to this. There is still JOHN RAMBO of course, but I guess people realize now that the movie is junk.

I also think this hobby will survive fine with a re-release of IRON MAN -- just as others were re-released. In fact, the hobby may even grow because of it.

People have to realize that collecting itself is a self-destructive hobby, and just collect for the pure enjoyment of owning the SB for yourself. SBs are not very good investments.

Lastly,


If this is true, then HDN should not prevent anyone from petitioning a re-release of IRON MAN or any title. They should stay non-partisan and let nature take its course. Inserting themselves as a blockade from what collectors want is wrong, in my opinion, and does not classify as a 'free forum' where people are open to share ideas.

It's not like HDN is single-handedly preventing this re-release anyhow. Studios and retailers still have to be won over. They work for business and money unlike HDN. It not as easy as creating a petition and then poof, there is a re-release.

In the end, if anyone out there really wants one, all they have to do is wait. There are enough of these in collector's hands that in 5-10 years, you can probably find them in the bargain bins -- esp. in Canada, where it has already started happening.

If nature takes its course, it would be very unwise for them to release FS IM. A lot of collectors will be ticked off, and quit the hobby. Then sales will take a dramatic nose dive, bad for business. So in the interest of self preservation, the powers that be should never even contemplate re release this exact artwork. You never state that you do, or do not own this title. But if I was a betting man, I would say that you do not. I can't see any owner of this title wanting it be re released, it's not in ones best interest. As for your suggestion of waiting for one, it could go either way. I've been down that road before in another hobby, and found that waiting really bit me in the ass. If you're seeing these in "bargain bins" I suggest you do 2 things:

1) First, Shoot me a PM, and tell me where they are, I promise I'll leave a few for you, scouts honor.

2) After you've told me, feel free to grab a few copies for yourself. Trust me, it's a good investment.

 

[Geek Tragedy]

Wish I had it. I only have the G1 DVD version steelbook for Iron Man. Its the one Phase 1 flick along with Hulk that I am missing a steelbook version of on blu.

 

[rodobastos]

How about a new release with the same front cover but with different inside/back?

This way, the FS HOLY GRAIL would be devalued?

Cheers..

 

[Geek Tragedy]

^
If making it different would solve the problem the first thing they should do is drop that ugly blue banner.

 

[tenderheartbear]

^
If making it different would solve the problem the first thing they should do is drop that ugly blue banner.

That's why I prefer the Play.com version.

I'm more than happy to accept that the finish on the FS version is superior but there are a lot of things I don't like about it...

The blue banner
Only half of Iron Man's face on the front
A thick edge on the front

Admittedly I had to do a swap of the inner to put all 3 discs I wanted in it, but it was worth it. The wrong images inside the Play versions of IM and IM2 is a bit stupid, but as mine both have 3 discs on them it doesn't matter (not that it really mattered to me in the first place).

I've said it before, but there's often this belief that people only own Play's IM because they can't/don't own the FS version. This simply isn't true in all cases. A lot are saying the same about Zavvi's Thor and Captain America.

I own the HMV versions of both those titles, but I much prefer the look of the Zavvi versions. If Zavvi's had contained the Blu-ray and DVD versions like HMV's then I would have re-bought them but frankly, I couldn't be bothered to swap the inners over (well, the spines are the only tricky bit).

So yes, I prefer Play's IM (and IM2) over the FS (and Korean IM2, which I did get rid of because of the banner) version.

 

[justhedudeman]

If nature takes its course, it would be very unwise for them to release FS IM. A lot of collectors will be ticked off, and quit the hobby. Then sales will take a dramatic nose dive, bad for business. So in the interest of self preservation, the powers that be should never even contemplate re release this exact artwork. You never state that you do, or do not own this title. But if I was a betting man, I would say that you do not. I can't see any owner of this title wanting it be re released, it's not in ones best interest. As for your suggestion of waiting for one, it could go either way. I've been down that road before in another hobby, and found that waiting really bit me in the ass. If you're seeing these in "bargain bins" I suggest you do 2 things:

1) First, Shoot me a PM, and tell me where they are, I promise I'll leave a few for you, scouts honor.

2) After you've told me, feel free to grab a few copies for yourself. Trust me, it's a good investment.

Older collectors will quit and newer ones will purchase the rerelease, the circle of life and all.

 

[Geek Tragedy]

^
If someone had both and were going to give me my choice of the two for free I would take the play.com version in a heartbeat. I collect the steelbooks that I like first and foremost and I am really not in the hobby for the investment.

 

[digitalbabe]

Lots of discussion, but only a few points I would like to make (and I will keep it on-topic to IRON MAN to please the mods).

I never stated whether I have this release or not, which is really irrelevant and no, I do not think of myself as 'selfish' because I believe that SBs are for the masses and don't mind if they re-release everything because in the end, these are not really limited editions, but marketing gimmicks. As a result of sales, some of these will end up being limited editions though.

Having said that, there is a reason why this particular SB still garners a high price. It is one of the few left that has not been re-released. Anyone who remembers I AM LEGEND or STAR TREK can attest to this. There is still JOHN RAMBO of course, but I guess people realize now that the movie is junk.

I also think this hobby will survive fine with a re-release of IRON MAN -- just as others were re-released. In fact, the hobby may even grow because of it.

People have to realize that collecting itself is a self-destructive hobby, and just collect for the pure enjoyment of owning the SB for yourself. SBs are not very good investments.

Lastly,


If this is true, then HDN should not prevent anyone from petitioning a re-release of IRON MAN or any title. They should stay non-partisan and let nature take its course. Inserting themselves as a blockade from what collectors want is wrong, in my opinion, and does not classify as a 'free forum' where people are open to share ideas.

It's not like HDN is single-handedly preventing this re-release anyhow. Studios and retailers still have to be won over. They work for business and money unlike HDN. It not as easy as creating a petition and then poof, there is a re-release.

In the end, if anyone out there really wants one, all they have to do is wait. There are enough of these in collector's hands that in 5-10 years, you can probably find them in the bargain bins -- esp. in Canada, where it has already started happening.

This community and owners has been advocates for Steel and movie collectors for YEARS, and has a separate feedback forum for individual titles many of which were released, and still are under consideration. Many a community, like HDN have stopped things (all kinds, and many more important ones than movie collecting) from happening (i.e the 2nd Iron Man from Play and several others-where the art was in fact reconsidered because of community opinion).....And conversely the power of community and direct connections from this community to retailers and studios have enabled new releases from occurring, art changes, and other considerations that were rooted in the community's collective 'wants' not of any single member or Staff. If the studio decides to go against that anyway, that is their prerogative, but we are not going to actively advocate for things that disrespect the collectibility or desirability of the original releases. Having people moan about current prices of the 'original' and therefore wanting a re-release, so they can get it cheaper is not a reason to help devalue the original. Sorry, but over time the value of a limited collectible usually goes up-so if someone wants to have it, they should expect to pay the current market value-it's the way it always has been, and always will be.

Steelbook collecting, remains rooted in the idea that they should be 'limited releases'. Since you said Canada is already selling Iron Man at 'bargain' prices we don't need a re-release ...just pick one up from Ebay then?

 

[SaberTooth]

^^ yeah from what i'm reading i get the impression that some newr collectors have not only given up even attempting to own a copy of the FS edition, they are now even too cheap to try for the far, far cheaper, plentiful and easily available play.com version - and are instead whining for a 3rd re-release

....can u imagine if retailers listened?

There wld be a new Iorn Man steelbook released every year to accommodate the newest batch of whining collectors :violent: