Iron Man (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Kimchidvd Exclusive #12) [Korea]

Choi Chungkwon

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Release date: December 5, 2014
Purchase links: Lenticular (SOLD OUT) - 1/4 Slip (SOLD OUT) (Pre-order on November 10 at 11 PM Korea time UTC+9. UK: 2 PM GMT / USA (east) 9 AM / USA (west) 6 AM ) Please use the following timezone converter to find out the time in your area
Price:
$42.90$ (after 3 days, $44.99)
Package detail:
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2 discs
- Lenticular
- 1/4 slip
Print run: 3.7K
1850 for Oversea, 1850 for Local
Order Limit Qty:
Lenticular Edition : 2 per order
1/4 Slip : 1 per order

Paramount approved artwork

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I didn't purchase this release and have, therefore, refrained from posting in this thread until now. The reason I'm now responding is because of the conflicting advice being given here by various members as to whether it is right or wrong, whether morally or legally, to make a claim against Kimchi, through PayPal or one's credit card provider, for non-receipt of this item.

Those who have yet to receive their copies of this title fall into two basic categories:-

(a) Those whose packages have been lost, stolen, mislaid or delayed whilst in transit;

(b) Those whose packages have been seized by UK Border Force due to a suspicion that the item is counterfeit.

Anyone who has not received a notification from UK BF that their package has been so seized falls into category (a), irrespective of the fact that others have had their copies seized.

Those of you in category (a) have both a moral and legal right to institute a claim against Kimchi, through PayPal or your credit card provider, for non-receipt of the goods. You should, however, first contact Kimchi to notify them that you have not received the item and that if they do not provide you with a satisfactory response within a specified time, then you will be making a claim against them. If they do not so respond then you are well within your rights to make the claim.

For those in category (b) the issue is not so straight forward. If the items are indeed counterfeit, or you know or believe them to be so, then a claim could be made against Kimchi, as above. However, in doing so you would be accepting the allegation that the items are counterfeit and giving up any claim to the goods, thereby allowing UK BF to destroy them.

If, on the other hand, you believe the items to be genuine and are contesting with UK BF their intention to destroy them, anticipating that the items will be delivered to you once their authenticity has been established, and you simultaneously make a claim for reimbursement of the amount paid, on the basis that you have not received those goods, it could be construed that you are acting fraudulently, separate and similar offences of which exist in both English and Scottish criminal law. Similarly, if you pursue both options and end up receiving both the goods and a refund but make no effort to return one or other, then an offence of theft will have been committed.

Obviously, no one wants to take a hit on this but members affected by this debacle should be careful of how they tread in resolving the issue.

As regards any damage to these items, resulting from their seizure and examination by UK BF, @psychoscot is absolutely correct when stating that UK BF can be held accountable and liable for compensation. That is, of course, dependent on the items being authenticated as genuine.

This is both on and off topic really, @apsmith21 @digitalbabe, I'd like to nominate @augustus for the helpful member award (or some such thing). They don't post a lot, but when they do, the posts are always informative, insightful and most of all, helpful.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
 
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I didn't purchase this release and have, therefore, refrained from posting in this thread until now. The reason I'm now responding is because of the conflicting advice being given here by various members as to whether it is right or wrong, whether morally or legally, to make a claim against Kimchi, through PayPal or one's credit card provider, for non-receipt of this item.

Those who have yet to receive their copies of this title fall into two basic categories:-

(a) Those whose packages have been lost, stolen, mislaid or delayed whilst in transit;

(b) Those whose packages have been seized by UK Border Force due to a suspicion that the item is counterfeit.

Anyone who has not received a notification from UK BF that their package has been so seized falls into category (a), irrespective of the fact that others have had their copies seized.

Those of you in category (a) have both a moral and legal right to institute a claim against Kimchi, through PayPal or your credit card provider, for non-receipt of the goods. You should, however, first contact Kimchi to notify them that you have not received the item and that if they do not provide you with a satisfactory response within a specified time, then you will be making a claim against them. If they do not so respond then you are well within your rights to make the claim.

For those in category (b) the issue is not so straight forward. If the items are indeed counterfeit, or you know or believe them to be so, then a claim could be made against Kimchi, as above. However, in doing so you would be accepting the allegation that the items are counterfeit and giving up any claim to the goods, thereby allowing UK BF to destroy them.

If, on the other hand, you believe the items to be genuine and are contesting with UK BF their intention to destroy them, anticipating that the items will be delivered to you once their authenticity has been established, and you simultaneously make a claim for reimbursement of the amount paid, on the basis that you have not received those goods, it could be construed that you are acting fraudulently, separate and similar offences of which exist in both English and Scottish criminal law. Similarly, if you pursue both options and end up receiving both the goods and a refund but make no effort to return one or other, then an offence of theft will have been committed.

Obviously, no one wants to take a hit on this but members affected by this debacle should be careful of how they tread in resolving the issue.

As regards any damage to these items, resulting from their seizure and examination by UK BF, @psychoscot is absolutely correct when stating that UK BF can be held accountable and liable for compensation. That is, of course, dependent on the items being authenticated as genuine.

Very Good Post
Correct in all details in regard to the Law

To all who got that letter I hope you replied to Border Force by the deadline date on your letter instructing them not to destroy your goods as if you did not you are left with possibility of no chance of receiving your goods as they may have destroyed your goods and only can claim back the value of your goods if that happened and if border force end up admitting the goods are not counterfeit

Note this could take months and even possible court case to solve this
 
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Well nothing again today!

I have had no reply to any of my emails from Tony which I think is dam right rude! I have been extremely polite in all emails and I think I've been more than reasonable!

I have had no BF letter, so god only knows what's going on. I have always said I will give Tony (KimchiDvd) time - just in case this does show up or BF come to their senses and hope mine is in a batch seized. However I can't see how mine is in this batch as the law states they need to inform the recipient's in order to ascertain whether they dispute the destruction of said goods...

I have sent Tony yet another email, highlighting the fact I have had no letter or order. I stated I will wait until weekend to start a claim within paypal.

Sorry Tony but you really should respond to emails, even a "I'm sorry please give me time to look into it further" would be nice..
 
Sorry Tony but you really should respond to emails, even a "I'm sorry please give me time to look into it further" would be nice..
I'm probably stating the obvious, but just in case - have you checked your spam box (if you have one) for your email? For some reason some of the emails I've received from KimchiDVD in the past have been marked as spam. Just a thought.
 
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@Bigmac he has responded to me asking me to wait longer

Sent email only about 15mins ago and he has just replied to me lol Takes the mention of claiming through PayPal to get a response. Thing is I've asked him to send replacement order if possible or put credit on my account for POTA lenti.

Anyway as you have stated, he wants me to wait longer as well lol

How long is longer :)

@MrBMT

No emails in spam buddy, they always go to my primary. He has responded now - so that's something.
 
Refunding for customs fiasco is a nice gesture, so hats off to Tony but I will wait until mid of February before contacting Tony. I hope the smarty pants comes to senses and sings Let It Go to the recipients.

If you paid by Credit Card expect more money in your account as GBP has dropped by 5% in the past few weeks against USD.
 
Well all I wanted was a reply and I have had 3 so far :)

I'm happy to wait and see outcome and have explained this to Tony. He has stated it will be either be reshipped or refunded - so will wait a while longer as asked and hope his enquiries at post office come good.
 
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Tony also told me he would reship or refund, then, he gave me a refund without further any consultation!

Still no letter or Iron Man for me either :(

Ron
 
Sorry Tony but you really should respond to emails, even a "I'm sorry please give me time to look into it further" would be nice..

I suspect after reading this thread tonys email box has exploded, i remember reading back some pages on person saying they just sent 3 mails in one go and alot of people are just sending email after email.
I'm not defending him here but what chance does he have if people are sending mails in the volume that they are? I know i wouldn't cope with the volumes being talked about.

I can understand peoples frustrations here of not a lot of feed back from tony, far as i can make out far as he in his view has sent off the info vaildating its correct by from what i have read is by email and not post.

It would seem BF have gone silent them only dealing by letter is done quite by purposely but more than likely what is holding this all up, probabely far as they are concerned they have checked with what they are concerned as the uk agency fact http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/about/
It would seem in this case that fact have got there facts wrong in this case!

Has anyone got tony to try to contact 'fact' with the correct documents or have the correct full documents they could send to fact and highlight they have sent out the wrong info to border force in this case maybe if that was done fact could contact BF (they must have a contact name in BF who is dealing with this) and then may get this moving again but i suspect fact will want the full document and not just the one bit i have seen shown on here

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I also suspect that if Kimchi take a bit hit on this they may just stop selling to uk if they feel BF is targeting them not that has been proved one way or the other, but i suspect BF will have this marked for more inspection from now on.

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I also suspect that if Kimchi take a bit hit on this they may just stop selling to uk if they feel BF is targeting them not that has been proved one way or the other, but i suspect BF will have this marked for more inspection from now on.
KimchiDVD have recently changed K-Packet to a different courier called Pantos Logistics, I imagine it's to try and avoid issues like this in the future. Seems they get shipped directly to their UK branch who then put them in the post (from the UK) via RM for the last part of the journey.
 
The advantage of Pantos Logistics is they have AEO certificate which has customs administration benefits, such as a streamlined customs clearance process

Pantos Logistics will still check goods same way as the UK as do Border Force and UK customs do but is done by themselves but is a faster process

If they see an issue they will act as per UK Customs Law and if needed approach UK Customs or Police service for assistance if they see any problem with goods arriving in the UK

Pantos Logistics don't bypass Customs they do the checks themselves as they are licenced to do so
 
Pantos Logistics don't bypass Customs they do the checks themselves as they are licenced to do so
Well that will be a big advantage simply because they're not going to be driven by Border Force's conflict of interest to confiscate X number of goods as 'counterfeit' over the Christmas period.

Plus as a contracted Courier, it'll be in their best interest to perform a thorough investigation in the event that they do ever suspect something of being counterfeit, as it's their own business they'd potentially loose if they made a mistake.