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Kingsman: The Secret Service (Blu-ray SteelBook) (HMV Exclusive) [UK]
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Who will be the claimant?
You...Or a class action...Just say it feels my nuts are going to get a kicking
Just paid $60 for this LAST WEEK. 
It's a beautiful design and I'm extremely happy with it, but essential paying $40 for a lenticular slip box when I could have gotten this for 1/3 of the cost is kinda nutty 
I hope Manta Lab sees it, kicks some a$$ and it never gets released. 
It's a beautiful design and I'm extremely happy with it, but essential paying $40 for a lenticular slip box when I could have gotten this for 1/3 of the cost is kinda nutty I hope Manta Lab sees it, kicks some a$$ and it never gets released. 
Sucks for Manta but ultimately Manta have sold out this title, they have made their money. It's not going to hurt their sales, only the resale market but as Manta had specific slips and a boxset, then someone wanting all of that will still have to go for the Manta release on eBay or via classifieds.
Even if fox is in breach, Manta isn't about to go to war with them when they've sold out their quota already plus risk and very possibly sever their ties with Fox for future released
Even if fox is in breach, Manta isn't about to go to war with them when they've sold out their quota already plus risk and very possibly sever their ties with Fox for future released
If it is identicle then we will have to decide to buy the next sequel from Manta anticipating they are essentially releasing a non WEA if HMV are going to pop down later and release this. It's not just resale values, it's the future releases we need to consider. Is it a one off or not?
I don't buy Manta releases solely for their steelbooks. I like their lenticulars and their overall packages. Its abit of a knee jerk reaction to be questioning every release based on this turn of events
Surely the issue regarding whichever artwork is used is simply a case of the best available out there being chosen / that is allowed to be used . . .
All things considered, the images used on the steelbooks will not be owned by the retailers (lol) so even though they may have exclusivity for a specified time period it's not going to be an indefinite period and I'm surprised that the retailer in question is expressing "shock horror". Methinks they do protest too much!.
Unsurprising that it's gone to the kings of collector's editions, HMV, since they also had an exclusive package previously with artcards:-
Anyway, this particular image used for the front just happens to be the best (or second best) out there . . . of a similar style used on the U.K. Studio Ghiblis and more recently on the cracking HEADSHOT steelbook . . . with all other front images not in the same league despite the similar central layout.
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All things considered, the images used on the steelbooks will not be owned by the retailers (lol) so even though they may have exclusivity for a specified time period it's not going to be an indefinite period and I'm surprised that the retailer in question is expressing "shock horror". Methinks they do protest too much!.
Unsurprising that it's gone to the kings of collector's editions, HMV, since they also had an exclusive package previously with artcards:-
Anyway, this particular image used for the front just happens to be the best (or second best) out there . . . of a similar style used on the U.K. Studio Ghiblis and more recently on the cracking HEADSHOT steelbook . . . with all other front images not in the same league despite the similar central layout.
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Couple of examples of other previously widely available steelbook editions:-
. . . and my favourite . . . to see just how well the HMV slipcover front artwork looks on a steelbook . . .
. . . and my favourite . . . to see just how well the HMV slipcover front artwork looks on a steelbook . . .
Is this aimed at me?
I don't think of resale values, if and when I resell a steelbook on eBay it starts at 99p and goes for whatever it goes for.
All I know is, I own the steelbook. I didn't scoff at the price when I originally purchased it and am happy to have it in my Manta Lab and overall collection. It doesn't bother me if six months or a year down the road if the steel goes on sale elsewhere for less. I could potentially look at ebay and see the same release has gone for less than I paid then get annoyed that I spent more at retail then if I waited.. But how long do you wait? Just bought an OLED TV, it'll likely be alot cheaper in six months AND likely obsolete, but how long do you wait?
I'm not asking for your opinion about whether you care or not what happens in six months time about resale values. I also do not care if you bought a TV or not.
I replied to your post in relation to Manta not being hurt as they sold their steels but hurt the resale market, by stating that essentially the sequel they can be released with the same artwork and that is something to consider, especially all those joining late that will pick the HMV instead of Manta from the private market.
You stated this message: Its abit of a knee jerk reaction to be questioning every release based on this turn of events
So I responded back it's not just about resales, other points to consider. I am not sure what you gain is from this. I given other reasonable points to consider, just like you have from the overall situation. Of course everyone is going to be discussing why a Manta WEA art is being used on a HMV release and the other factors involved and future implications.
And I don't really care that you're bottom lip is quivering as you bite your nails at home worrying about the price of a steelbook ad what "may" happen in the future. You've come off as ignorant, chin up sweetheart, go outside, have a coke and smile. I will tonight also when I'm watching Kingsman on my OLED, I may be sweating the heat but I won't be sweating the fact that I spent my money supporting a company that I like that produces quality releases time after time
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Surely the issue regarding whichever artwork is used is simply a case of the best available out there being chosen / that is allowed to be used . . .
All things considered, the images used on the steelbooks will not be owned by the retailers (lol) so even though they may have exclusivity for a specified time period it's not going to be an indefinite period and I'm surprised that the retailer in question is expressing "shock horror". Methinks they do protest too much!.
Unsurprising that it's gone to the kings of collector's editions, HMV, since they also had an exclusive package previously with artcards:-
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Anyway, this particular image used for the front just happens to be the best (or second best) out there . . . of a similar style used on the U.K. Studio Ghiblis and more recently on the cracking HEADSHOT steelbook . . . with all other front images not in the same league despite the similar central layout.
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Couple of examples of other previously widely available steelbook editions:-
. . . and my favourite . . . to see just how well the HMV slipcover front artwork looks on a steelbook . . .
Yes and No, I do agree with some of the above. Companies like Amazon and Zavvi basically have no say, as they are mass quantity stores. Manta so far has fallen into the same catagory as Kimchi, Nova and Blufans. Small boutique companies making exclusive editions that until now have remained exclusive to them. I've never seen a Blufans, Nova or Kmichi WEA steel appear in other territories, they remain property of those companies. If this does turn out the same steel then Manta obviously don't have the same deal with the distribustion companies on retaining that exclusivity. Thats a major blow for them as many here just want the steel "like me" the slips etc are nice but the bottom line is I collect steelbooks. If I can get the same steel for a fraction of the cost, thats going to hurt Manta's business as theres plenty other collectors who just want the steelbook. I'd of gone with the quarter slip from Manta if I could have, but they made it one-click exclusive. If I'd known the same steel would appear only a few months later at a fraction in price I wouldn't have bought the manta version as I already own the really nice Filmarena one.
Time will tell, when we get to see how this one is finished. Will be bad for Manta if this is 100% the same
Sweating about steelbook price? Are you kidding me?
I'm discussing about this release as anyone is entitled to on the forum and you talk about a TV you bought? ROFL!We all know you are Manta Lab fanboy craig, at the moment HMV release this you so evidently come to their defense. And your reply speaks for yourself that you cannot have a civilised conversation and when you run out of options, you have to result in personal attacks and show off that you bought a OLED TV PMSL. That is what you call arrogance
I'm glad to see you fuming with rage, highlights the true colours of what you really are Keep it up!
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Fuming lol. You're getting obviously agitated by the fact a company is releasing a steelbook another company has released before under an exclusive banner yet you don't know the terms of that said exclusivity. And this was months ago. I'd understand if Mantas kingsman sold out and shipped and these appeared on hmv shelves the following week. If you already have it then you have it in a slip or a boxset. If you don't then you are getting it for £14.99 assuming it's the EXACT same steelbook and you're getting a bargain. It's the age old argument, you get people who love the steels solely and people who love the whole premium package. If you did buy this when it came out solely for the steelbook then you can't begrudge the overall cost cause you got the overall package and you decided to pay for it. If you didn't buy it then why complain now when you have the opportunity to own it for a fraction of the price? Where's Man of steel, Revenant and Constantine.. Don't see them hitting hmv? Exactly what I mean by knee jerk reaction. Exclusivity often expires.. It happens with all sorts.. Toys, funkos, video games. Why is it such a shock that sooner or later it happened here
I'm not agitated Craig. Why would I be agitated? Why does this discussion bother you? I find the whole thing very funny why you suddenly reacted the way you did, lol. I am having a civilised conversation with you on the public forum. Thats what forums are there for. To debate and discuss. If we disagree, then we disagree, no big deal is it? If you cannot hold a civilized conversation then quite simple, don't respond to my posts or resort to personal attacks. It makes you appear very unprofessional. So take a step back and breath, read before you send instead of insulting me where I have in no shape or forum insulted you prior to this. That's that point out the way.
I'm not sure exactly what you are tying to say in your post. Regardless if I have the Manta release or not, I am discussing on the HMV Kingsman thread, which you have obviously taken much attention to as a Manta Lab fan, and discussing about WEA that is used. There are other members discussing this, not just me. We also discussed about Manta Lab having legal grounds or not to sue Fox. You appear to have issues over this discussion. Of course no one will ever know exactly what is written down. We are free to discuss it. If it annoys you that much don't bother reading.
I made a simple response to you about other factors to consider about the possibility of Manta doing a sequel and then a little later on HMV will have this. But then you are ranting about some new TV you got and how you be drinking coke to watch Kingsman
Do as you please 
Sorry mate. Your response was too long to bother reading. Scanning through I did see the TV point mentioned again. That's like the third or fourth time you've raised it. It was an example. I could've used anything as an example, a rolex watch, a car..****.. A house. Values are constantly going up and down no matter how long you wait.. That was the point, but if you want to wait out every future manta release just "incase" you can get it for £15 down the road go ahead. Also, it just made me think, you said something to the effect of 'you're a manta lab fan boy Craig so of course you'd come to their defense'.. What am I defending?
Surely the issue regarding whichever artwork is used is simply a case of the best available out there being chosen / that is allowed to be used . . .
All things considered, the images used on the steelbooks will not be owned by the retailers (lol) so even though they may have exclusivity for a specified time period it's not going to be an indefinite period and I'm surprised that the retailer in question is expressing "shock horror". Methinks they do protest too much!.
Unsurprising that it's gone to the kings of collector's editions, HMV, since they also had an exclusive package previously with artcards:-
View attachment 318437
Anyway, this particular image used for the front just happens to be the best (or second best) out there . . . of a similar style used on the U.K. Studio Ghiblis and more recently on the cracking HEADSHOT steelbook . . . with all other front images not in the same league despite the similar central layout.
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Couple of examples of other previously widely available steelbook editions:-
. . . and my favourite . . . to see just how well the HMV slipcover front artwork looks on a steelbook . . .
That last black steel should have been the Art with the goodies, just google that one out, IMO its the best black steel for the movie
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