Peter Pan (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive: The Disney Collection #7) [UK]

[snooloui]

Release date: February 10th, 2014
Purchase link: Zavvi
Price: £19.99-sold out
Notes: Embossed Artwork on cover
Confirmed 4000 qty print run

The others: Zavvi Exclusive: The Disney Collection Blu-ray SteelBooks

Spoiler

Zavvi are pleased to announce the next wave of our Disney Steelbook Collection, and we have 3 absolute classics for you. Peter Pan, Dumbo and Lady & The Tramp

All 3 will feature;
- Embossed Artwork on the front cover
- Classic vibrant artwork
- Custom new back designs

These will also be the lowest runs we have ever produced on Disney Classic titles
Finish and exact embossing details TBC
Release Date 17th Feb

 

[Robsonmonkey]

People only tend to speak up when they are unhappy. So let's say it's a print run of 3000, and they recieve 300 complaints about the art work. That could mean the other 2700 or so are happy with the artwork. So you seemingly have 90% happy and 10% unhappy. 10% vs 90% sorry got to go with the 90%.

It's the same wihen you here complaints about Zavvi's customer serivce. 99% of their complaints might be dealt with promptly and in a timely manner, it's just that we don't hear about those.

If you don't like the artwork, simple don't order it. There is no guarantee that any alternative artwork would be better, it could equally be worse. And at the end of the day there is the old adage you can please everyone all of the time. So just as a change in artwork might please 300 pepole, 300 others might be displeased.

I was going to reply but it seems bobafettish66 has hit the nail on the head

I will say this though

How can you not expect people to buy something out of a collection when they've bought the others. Thats the whole reason I'm complaining, I don't want to miss one out so of course I'm going to complain because I want my money's worth. It's a lot of money you know...

Oh and you say you don't know if alternative art work could be worse, who says I want them to change the entire thing. It's just one thing on the back, same goes for Toy Story 2/3 and Dumbo. Hell most of the complaints on here the majority of the time are usually members wanting one or two things change. It's very rare you get a steelbook which is so ugly you need the full thing changed.

The only one I would of liked them to change if Monsters University because that was awful, still had to buy it though because it's part of the Pixar collection.

 

[MacLeod]

The idea that people only speak up when they're unhappy with the art is nonsense, you talk as if when i put up the altered picture, those who where happy without the pixie dust all sit there silently. when thats not true at all. you're niave to think people who are satisfied with art choices remain silent, look at the finding nemo thread,dusk till dawn thread, or aladdin thread, if somethings good people speak up just like they do if somethings bad. seriously there are tons of threads where loads of people have spoken highly when excellent art is chosen.

yes the idea that alot of people dont speak out is valid but you conveniently forget that for every person who likes the art and remains quietly satisfied there is equally (or more can swing either way obviously) amounts of people unsatisfied who say nothing aswell. its swings and roundabouts. naturally its hard to get accurate numbers.

and thats why sample polls exist. if you ask 50 people wether they prefer A or B and 65% prefer B then its logical to assume if you asked 100 people you'd get similar results.

As you say there are those that praise good art work, just as there are those that critisie bad artwork. And as you say there might be some who are unsatisifed with the artwork yet say nothing. But by saying nothing they are basically saying we are ok with this artwork. How is a retailer supposed to know the majority hate the design?

I doubt for every letter of complaint a company recieves they recieve a letter of compliment. The number of letters of complaints is bound to out weigh numbers of compliments. So just out of interest when was the last time any of us actually wrote a letter of compliment to a company?, went out of our way to compliment a memer of staff at a shop/restaraunt to their management?

Erm, just because you ask 50 people and it was 65/35 in favour doesn't mean logically if you asked 100 you would get the same result. You could say it's probable but it is by no means certain.

 

[snooloui]

If you ask a bunch of nitpicking collectors like ourselves rather than the average Zavvi customer or Disney collector, then the results will be biased. If you ran a poll on this site, it wouldn't represent every type of person who might buy this.

 

[MacLeod]

I was going to reply but it seems bobafettish66 has hit the nail on the head

I will say this though

How can you not expect people to buy something out of a collection when they've bought the others. Thats the whole reason I'm complaining, I don't want to miss one out so of course I'm going to complain because I want my money's worth. It's a lot of money you know...

Oh and you say you don't know if alternative art work could be worse, who says I want them to change the entire thing. It's just one thing on the back, same goes for Toy Story 2/3 and Dumbo. Hell most of the complaints on here the majority of the time are usually members wanting one or two things change. It's very rare you get a steelbook which is so ugly you need the full thing changed.

The only one I would of liked them to change if Monsters University because that was awful, still had to buy it though because it's part of the Pixar collection.

Person 1 wants this change
Person 2 wants this change
Person 3 wants persons 1 change undone
person 4 wants this change
Person 5 wants change 4 undone.
person 1000 wants this change.
etc..

I suspect if you asked a lot of people would perhaps want something changed, so just how many changes do you make to try and please everyone? At what point do you call it a day.? You simply can't please everyone all of the time.

Sure by all means the retailers can run a poll with a few options to decide which artwork is choosen for the final product.

And no you didn't have to buy it because it was part of a colletion, Zavvi aren't forcing you to buy any of their products. You are choosing to buy their products. Zavvi couldn't careless about the collectors market, they aren't bothered with what you do with your purchase, open it, resell it, use it as a coaster etc.. Sure there is nothing wrong with wrong with wanting them as a collectors item,.

Sure it would be great if they were numbered on the spine saying 1, 2 etc.. that would definantly make them a collection

 

[bobafettish66]

As you say there are those that praise good art work, just as there are those that critisie bad artwork. And as you say there might be some who are unsatisifed with the artwork yet say nothing. But by saying nothing they are basically saying we are ok with this artwork. How is a retailer supposed to know the majority hate the design?

by that logic how is a retailer meant to know if they like it either. millions of people put up with high petrol prices, but dont say a word doesn't mean they like it.

I doubt for every letter of complaint a company recieves they recieve a letter of compliment. The number of letters of complaints is bound to out weigh numbers of compliments. So just out of interest when was the last time any of us actually wrote a letter of compliment to a company?, went out of our way to compliment a member of staff at a shop/restaraunt to their management?

you've misunderstood the point, this isn't about the competence of a company, it's about artistic choices. feedback works differently a more logical comparison would be film test screenings.

Erm, just because you ask 50 people and it was 65/35 in favour doesn't mean logically if you asked 100 you would get the same result. You could say it's probable but it is by no means certain.

i said nothing about certainty, you admit yourself a similar result would be probable. logic doesn't mean certainty. eg it has rained heavily the past 5 days it is logical to assume it will rain heavily tomorrow,rains not guaranteed though. But my umbrella is coming with me tomorrow.



you make whatever arguments you like, but the fact is HDN is a big target audience for Zavvi, we give them feedback, they want to improve sales. their steelbooks are aimed at us, virtually no one else. look on hotukdeals, normal people dont want a £20 peter pan steelbook, its aimed at us. thats why they listened to us on wreck it ralph, thats why these have a lower print run, that's why we end up with loads of embossing.

 

[Steelknight47]

If you don't like the artwork, simple don't order it.

^^Has to be one of the worse lines I've read. We here at HDN are collectors and consumers, and if we don't like the product than we will voice our opinion(s). We have done so in the past and our voice has been heard. While our ideas may conflict at times, we do not simply stay quiet.

 

[bobafettish66]

^^Has to be one of the worse lines I've read. We here at HDN are collectors and consumers, and if we don't like the product than we will voice our opinion(s). We have done so in the past and our voice has been heard. While our ideas may conflict at times, we do not simply stay quiet.

 

[MacLeod]

^^Has to be one of the worse lines I've read. We here at HDN are collectors and consumers, and if we don't like the product than we will voice our opinion(s). We have done so in the past and our voice has been heard. While our ideas may conflict at times, we do not simply stay quiet.

As are people who have never heard of HDN. Sure we all have likes and dislikes. And there is nothing wrong with saying you don't like the artwork. But changing the artwork to suit you even in subtle ways might mean dissapointing someone else who was perfectly happy with the orginal artwork.

My point is not that artwork shouldn't be changed, but rather that it shouldn't be changed after it's been announced. I'd much rather they come to a site like this before hand and say these are the options for the artwork, which do you prefer. Is there anything you prefer we did with it, what changes could we make to make it better. That would be engaging with your potential market.

 

[Geek Tragedy]

^
I take it you were a fan of the back of Zavvi's first Wreck It Ralph design.

 

[blurayisnice]

sad I missed out on this

 

[MacLeod]

^No you haven't missed out. Unless I'm mistaken this one hasn't gone live and isn't set to go live until 16-11 at least that's what it's says at the top.

 

[jimmyv]

Artwork looks FANTASTIC! Can't wait for this one

 

[digitalbabe]

Cute cover-will be adding this one-one of our faves!

 

[lgans316]

Artwork light years ahead of Dumbo. Never seen this and not a fan of few Disney Classics. So pass for me.

 

[mdewater]

Never... seen..... Peter Pan??

 

[Geek Tragedy]

Artwork light years ahead of Dumbo. Never seen this and not a fan of few Disney Classics. So pass for me.

This won't do. What's the matter with you? All it takes is faith and trust and just a little bit of pixie dust.

 

[lgans316]

Is it mandatory to like all Disney classics? This and few other classics are not my cup of tea but I admit the artwork on this is so much better than Dumbo. Either ways I will pass.

 

[mdewater]

Soo... because you don't like ALL the classics you're never even going to watch this one? It's not mandatory to like all of them, but I think this is at least a must-SEE.

 

[neeon]

Soo... because you don't like ALL the classics you're never even going to watch this one? It's not mandatory to like all of them, but I think this is at least a must-SEE.

I am not a fan of any of the 3 that have been announced, personally still waiting for Robin Hood, Mulan and Alice in Wonderland.

That being said, still putting in orders for all 3

 

[mams]

Why, why, why does Zavvi continue to release matte/embossed/framed steelbooks while they are showing shiny and vivid artworks on the product pages ?
Why don't they just do like Futureshop or Kimchidvd and release true beauties ???