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In preparation for tomorrow's announcement, Sony Playstation have released a video which looks back at the evolution of Playstation games and how they pushed the boundaries of play with their innovative titles.

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You can watch a global livestream broadcast of the PlayStation Meeting this Wednesday (February 20th, 2013) starting at 6:00pm EST, 3:00pm PST and 11:00pm GMT at these links...

US: https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/
UK: http://uk.playstation.com/meeting2013/

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A press release reveals the machine will include an 8-core 64-bit x86 "Jaguar" CPU developed by AMD and a Radeon GPU with the capability of terrorizing televisions with 1.84 TFLOPS of gaming goodness.

PlayStation 4 includes a Blu-ray drive that spins game discs a brisk 6X and 8X for DVDs. Additional specs in the release note the, already revealed, 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM along with 802.11n WiFi capability, USB 3.0 ports, Bluetooth 2.1 and ports for optical audio, HDMI and even legacy analog AV hook-ups. Though the console will have internal storage, Sony did not detail its size.

Sony's plan is to launch its new PlayStation 4 console this holiday season. No specific date or price was revealed during the reveal event.

The PS4's main features include:

  • - New DualShock 4 controller with built in touchpad
  • - Dramatically improved graphics and processing power
  • - Based on same X86 chips used in desktop computer to help game developers
  • - 3D camera that can track the controller, and the player
  • - Games can also be played on Sony's Vita handheld console

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The future of PlayStation is all about great games and entertainment, and at PlayStation Meeting 2013, we brought some of the brightest and most creative minds from the development community on stage to unveil the games that will define PS4. A partial initial lineup for PlayStation 4 includes first-party games from Guerilla Games (Killzone: Shadow Fall), Sucker Punch (inFamous Second Son), Evolution Studios (Driveclub), and Japan Studio (Knack), as well as titles from our partners such as Activision/Bungie (Destiny), Blizzard Entertainment (Diablo III), Capcom (Deep Down), and Ubisoft (Watch_Dogs). PlayStation also reinforced its commitment to self-publishing and the independent development community by having Jonathan Blow onstage who gave a sneak peek of his upcoming title The Witness. Finally, the incredible minds at Media Molecule and Quantic Dream gave glimpses of their conceptualization process and the future of gameplay with some remarkable footage. We only scratched the surface at the event, and will have many more exciting titles to come.

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Our next generation console will change the way you interact with friends while you play. PlayStation 4 lets you instantly share images and videos of your favorite gameplay moments on Facebook with a single press on the DUALSHOCK 4 controller’s “share” button. You can also broadcast while you play in real-time through Ustream, allowing friends to comment or jump into your game in new ways.

With PlayStation 4 we also want you to access your games quicker than ever before. PS4’s “suspend mode” eliminates the load time on your saved game and allows you to immediately return to where you left off by pressing the power button. PlayStation 4’s background downloading and updating capability also allows you to immediately play digital titles as they download, or update the system when the hardware is powered off.

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DUALSHOCK 4 adopts the familiar form factor of the DUALSHOCK 3 wireless controller with some key enhancements:
  • - Motion control is enabled by a new highly sensitive six-axis sensor
  • - Dual analog sticks fine-tuned for better precision plus improved surface materials and shape for more delicate manipulation
  • - L2/R2 buttons on the top of the controller employ a curved design for easier, smoother interaction
  • - A new “Options” button combines the functions of the DUALSHOCK 3’s “Select” and “Start” buttons for operating in-game menus

You can see more images of the new DUALSHOCK 4 controller here.
 

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sunnyx said:
Not impressed PS3 games don't wok for PS4. I probably just keep the PS3 anyway for the Blu-ray.
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darczap said:
It's pretty nonsensical that the PS4 will not be backwards compatible. Most people who are buying the PS4 are repeat customers, so, they've owned the PS, PS2, PS3 (at least this is my case). To say, no, you can't play the previous consoles games on the latest console is stupid. It's not like I went out running to buy PS2 games when the PS3 came out. It was all PS3 all the time, but I did enjoy playing some of my old PS2 games. With the PS4, we're either forced to keep our PS3's, or just dump all of our games and our console. I would have preferred to keep the games and dump the console. Now I need to make room to fit my PS4 in the mix. I think I may finally officially retire my HDDVD player to make room for the PS4 :D
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How do you expect them to do this? The leaps in power are not there anymore for them to emulate. They would have to put an entire PS3 inside. This would induce more heat, create a bigger console, and make the console insanely more expensive.

For example: Xbox One will have Call of Duty, Battlefield 4, and Titanfall in 720p because of the lack of power in the console. To emulate a console you need about twice the power of the previous generation. Sometimes even twice the power doesn't work because of the way the console was created ala PS2 on PS3. Only certain games worked without the PS2 hardware built in because they couldn't emulate the emotion engine.

Luckily for Sony they have Gaikai, which in the future may allow backwards compatibility via streaming.

In the future we have moved to a more PC like experience which may allow them to run older games on newer consoles (PS5) as the setup and specs may be similar enough to still be able to run the games.

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Looks like if anybody has ordered an xtra ds4 controller from Amazon, they'll be shipping early. I received this in an e-mail this morning from Amazon;

Hello,

We have good news! We're able to get this part of your order to you faster than we originally promised:

"PlayStation 4 Dualshock 4 Wireless Controller"
Previous estimated arrival date: November 15, 2013
New estimated arrival date: October 30, 2013
 
Does that mean PS4 does not allow digital play of PS3 games too? Seems strange you couldn't download and play games offline at the very least.
 
Sixteenvolt420 said:
Looks like if anybody has ordered an xtra ds4 controller from Amazon, they'll be shipping early. I received this in an e-mail this morning from Amazon;

Hello,

We have good news! We're able to get this part of your order to you faster than we originally promised:

"PlayStation 4 Dualshock 4 Wireless Controller"
Previous estimated arrival date: November 15, 2013
New estimated arrival date: October 30, 2013
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Dualshock 4's are also available at any Gamestop as of two day ago.

A Dualshock 4 will work on PC if it is a direct input PC game. If the game was created for the 360 controller you will need to use x360 software or motionjoy to emulate the Dualshock as a 360 controller. Much Much easier than the Dualshock 3.

Also the Dualshock 4 does work on some PS3 games but you have to keep the controller connected via usb. Any game that requires it to be wireless will not work. (Believe FIFA does this.)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4

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Che said:
Does that mean PS4 does not allow digital play of PS3 games too? Seems strange you couldn't download and play games offline at the very least.
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The PS4 internals are night and day different from the PS3, as stated above. There is no cell, there is no RSX. There is no way for them to play a digital game either as they still run on the hardware like the disc.

Xbox One also does not play any Xbox 360 games or any game from Xbox Live Marketplace. Same reasons as above.

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caliblue15 said:
Dualshock 4's are also available at any Gamestop as of two day ago.

A Dualshock 4 will work on PC if it is a direct input PC game. If the game was created for the 360 controller you will need to use x360 software or motionjoy to emulate the Dualshock as a 360 controller. Much Much easier than the Dualshock 3.

Also the Dualshock 4 does work on some PS3 games but you have to keep the controller connected via usb. Any game that requires it to be wireless will not work. (Believe FIFA does this.)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4

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The PS4 internals are night and day different from the PS3, as stated above. There is no cell, there is no RSX. There is no way for them to play a digital game either as they still run on the hardware like the disc.

Xbox One also does not play any Xbox 360 games or any game from Xbox Live Marketplace. Same reasons as above.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
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Yeah, i knew about them being available at Gamestop from Cheap Ass Gamer. Mine will just sit here unopened until my PS4 arrives in like 20 days. I don't play but simplistic games on my PC, even though i could play more involved ones, so my controller won't get used for that.


I thought that i remembered reading somewhere that you could play ps3 games on the ps4, on the cloud or something like that.
 
Sixteenvolt420 said:
Yeah, i knew about them being available at Gamestop from Cheap Ass Gamer. Mine will just sit here unopened until my PS4 arrives in like 20 days. I don't play but simplistic games on my PC, even though i could play more involved ones, so my controller won't get used for that.


I thought that i remembered reading somewhere that you could play ps3 games on the ps4, on the cloud or something like that.
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That is using Gaikai. Which won't be available at launch and I dont think for at least a year.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
 
caliblue15 said:
That is using Gaikai. Which won't be available at launch and I dont think for at least a year.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
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Ah, i thought i remembered reading something like that. Not that it matters much for me anyhow, as i rarely play my older games, once there are enough games out for the new gen system.
 
you guys think games will be plentiful tho? ie. no worry about them selling out? thats my guess.

my idea is that i have LIVE and bf4 coming .... and thats good enough for now until i see I have more gaming time (which I probably wont.) and if I do then maybe kz ill buy
 
Wreck said:
you guys think games will be plentiful tho? ie. no worry about them selling out? thats my guess.

my idea is that i have LIVE and bf4 coming .... and thats good enough for now until i see I have more gaming time (which I probably wont.) and if I do then maybe kz ill buy
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2k >>> Live

I think some games may be hard to get the first week. Hoping for a buy 2 get 1 on release week

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Because I only ordered mid October, my own fault really. They said they'd have more definitive information after release date.
 
£400 for the base pack is expensive though and I have zero interest in Killzone; there won't be any point in trying to sell it on as the market will be flooded with copies of Killzone. At least with Gamestop I can make up my own bundle and be the same price as everywhere else

My order at Gamestop is for the console, COD Ghosts, Fifa 14 and an extra controller for £469
 
I decided im going to push back getting this for a bit.I really actually wanted drive club and watch dogs the most for this.So i put it up on ebay last night and it finished today for a VERY nice price! So I might just hold off till tax season or something. I will say I did check out the controller for the ps4(one of my friends picked it up early)and I enjoy it much more. It felt more along the lines of a 360 controller but most importantly it had a much more relaxed feeling in my hands I will have to see tho how it holds out for actual gaming tho. I will also be able to steal my brothers system whenever I want :D
 

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