Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

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Another senseless shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut today. It saddens me to hear about this kind of travesty. 28 people are reported dead because of this. It's horrible. I think of my kids and their safety in there school and wonder if there is any place that is truly safe from this kind of horror for them. I can't even imagine what the parents of these kids are even going through right now. Here's a news report from Newtown about this horrific incident.

A man opened fire Friday inside two classrooms at the Connecticut elementary school where his mother was a teacher, killing 26 people, including 20 children, as youngsters cowered in corners and closets and trembled helplessly to gunshots reverberating through the building.

The 20-year-old killer, carrying two handguns, committed suicide at the school, and another person was found dead at a second scene, bringing the toll to 28, authorities said.

Police shed no light on the motive for the attack. The gunman was believed to suffer from a personality disorder and lived with his mother in Connecticut, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but was not authorized to publicly discuss it.

The rampage, coming less than two weeks before Christmas, was the nation's second-deadliest school shooting, exceeded only by the Virginia Tech massacre that left 33 people dead in 2007.

Panicked parents looking for their children raced to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, a prosperous community of about 27,000 people 60 miles northeast of New York City. Youngsters at the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade school were told to close their eyes by police as they were led from the building.

Schoolchildren — some crying, others looking frightened — were escorted through a parking lot in a line, hands on each other's shoulders.

"Our hearts are broken today," a tearful President Barack Obama, struggling to maintain composure, said at the White House. He called for "meaningful action" to prevent such shootings.

Youngsters and their parents described teachers locking doors and ordering the children to huddle in the corner or hide in closets when shots echoed through the building. Authorities didn't say exactly how the shootings unfolded.

They also gave no details on the victim discovered at another scene, except to say that the person was an adult found dead by police while they were investigating the gunman.

A law enforcement official identified the gunman as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, the son of a teacher. A second law enforcement official said his mother, Nancy Lanza, was presumed dead.

Adam Lanza's older brother, 24-year-old Ryan, of Hoboken, N.J., was being questioned.

The law enforcement official who said Adam Lanza had a possible personality disorder said Ryan Lanza had been extremely cooperative, was not believed to have any involvement in the rampage and was not under arrest or in custody, but investigators were still searching his computers and phone records. Ryan Lanza told law enforcement he had not been in touch with his brother since about 2010.

All three law enforcement officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the unfolding investigation.

The gunman drove to the school in his mother's car, the second official said. Three guns were found — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car.

State police Lt. Paul Vance said 28 people in all were killed, including the gunman, and one person was injured.

Robert Licata said his 6-year-old son was in class when the gunman burst in and shot the teacher.

"That's when my son grabbed a bunch of his friends and ran out the door," he said. "He was very brave. He waited for his friends."

He said the shooter didn't utter a word.

Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter was in the school and heard two big bangs. Teachers told her to get in a corner, he said.

"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said. His daughter was fine.

Mergim Bajraliu, 17, heard the gunshots echo from his home and ran to check on his 9-year-old sister at the school. He said his sister, who was fine, heard a scream come over the intercom at one point. He said teachers were shaking and crying as they came out of the building.

"Everyone was just traumatized," he said.

Mary Pendergast, who lives close to the school, said her 9-year-old nephew was in the school at the time of the shooting, but wasn't hurt after his music teacher helped him take cover in a closet.

Richard Wilford's 7-year-old son, Richie, is in the second grade at the school. His son told him that he heard a noise that "sounded like what he described as cans falling."

The boy told him a teacher went out to check on the noise, came back in, locked the door and had the kids huddle up in the corner until police arrived.

"There's no words," Wilford said. "It's sheer terror, a sense of imminent danger, to get to your child and be there to protect him."

On Friday afternoon, family members were led away from a firehouse that was being used as a staging area, some of them weeping. One man, wearing only a T-shirt without a jacket, put his arms around a woman as they walked down the middle of the street, oblivious to everything around them.

Another woman with tears rolling down her face walked by carrying a car seat with a young infant inside and a bag that appeared to have toys and stuffed animals.

"Evil visited this community today and it's too early to speak of recovery, but each parent, each sibling, each member of the family has to understand that Connecticut — we're all in this together. We'll do whatever we can to overcome this event," Gov. Dannel Malloy said.

Adam Lanza and his mother lived in a well-to-do part of Newtown where neighbors are doctors or hold white-collar positions at companies such as General Electric, Pepsi and IBM.

The shootings instantly brought to mind episodes such as the Columbine High School massacre that killed 15 in 1999 and the July shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., that left 12 dead.

"You go to a movie theater in Aurora and all of a sudden your life is taken," Columbine principal Frank DeAngelis said. "You're at a shopping mall in Portland, Ore., and your life is taken. This morning, when parents kissed their kids goodbye knowing that they are going to be home to celebrate the holiday season coming up, you don't expect this to happen. I think as a society, we need to come together. It has to stop, these senseless deaths."

Obama's comments on the tragedy amounted to one of the most outwardly emotional moments of his presidency.

"The majority of those who died were children — beautiful, little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old," Obama said.

He paused for several seconds to keep his composure as he teared up and wiped an eye. Nearby, two aides cried and held hands as they listened to Obama.

"They had their entire lives ahead of them — birthdays, graduations, wedding, kids of their own," Obama continued about the victims. "Among the fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children."

God rest there souls. :(
 
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Do you have kids? If I didn't have kids, I could understand what you are saying, but like I said, if I found out that my kid's teacher played with guns, it would make me feel uncomfortable.

I wouldn't care if the kindergarten teacher was a smoker or into some kinky S&M sex play where she liked to be crapped on during the weekends, but the shooting hobby just makes me feel uncomfortable! :)

And anyway, I'm in a situation where changing teachers is possible. If she was the best teacher in the world and all the other teachers sucked, then yeah, maybe I would take a chance and let the kids stay with the teacher that likes shooting. I'm just not crazy about the idea of elementary school teachers being into shooting in the spare time. That's why. Sure, elementary school teachers are regular people too that have secretive/personal hobbies, but I just don't like teachers having guns. I like cops having guns.

BTW.. I do not believe the teacher owned a machine gun. It was an assault rifle.

Having lived in Brooklyn for many years I understand the fear of firearms ownership. After moving to sunny Florida, and visiting a range, I now have a 2nd hobby to steelbooks. Once you fire your first rifle or pistol...you are either hooked or not. You will never know until you experience it correctly.

I could care less if a teacher has an arsenal of guns at home..or a collection or foreign steels that she/he can't read or understand.

After this... I believe every teacher should be armed during class.. obviously trained and regularly tested...to protect kids from crap like this.
 

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After this... I believe every teacher should be armed during class.. obviously trained and regularly tested...to protect kids from crap like this.

And take the chance for one of the children to get ahold of it when the teacher isn't looking or distracted by another student. I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. This type of scenario is a accident or worse waiting to happen. Guns are dangerous and a lot of children don't understand this and that's how accidents happen. Guns should remain banned inside of schools.

I believe and hold true to the 2nd amendment and if you've bought a gun in the past you will know how easy it really is to obtain one. More stringent background checks are what is needed to control who is allowed to own a gun.
 
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Dec 5, 2012
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And take the chance for one of the children to get ahold of it when the teacher isn't looking or distracted by another student. I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. This type of scenario is a accident or worse waiting to happen. Guns are dangerous and a lot of children don't understand this and that's how accidents happen. Guns should remain banned inside of schools.

I believe and hold true to the 2nd amendment and if you've bought a gun in the past you will know how easy it really is to obtain one. More stringent background checks are what is needed to control who is allowed to own a gun.

The teacher would have the weapon on them at all times. I'm not saying to leave it sitting on the desk like an apple.

As for banning guns in school? Umm..the shooter ignored that rule. That teacher that saved those kids... if she had a firearm..she could have saved more then just a few.
 
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And take the chance for one of the children to get ahold of it when the teacher isn't looking or distracted by another student. I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. This type of scenario is a accident or worse waiting to happen. Guns are dangerous and a lot of children don't understand this and that's how accidents happen. Guns should remain banned inside of schools.

I believe and hold true to the 2nd amendment and if you've bought a gun in the past you will know how easy it really is to obtain one. More stringent background checks are what is needed to control who is allowed to own a gun.

The teacher would have the weapon on them at all times. I'm not saying to leave it sitting on the desk like an apple.

As for banning guns in school? Umm..the shooter ignored that rule. That teacher that saved those kids... if she had a firearm..she could have saved more then just a few.

I had this same argument with my mom and sister last night.i argued that some of this could have been avoided if the teachers or the principle were carrying a firearm.Of course they argued the point the kids would get the gun but how may kids go into the principles office when he isn't there and goes though his stuff?None that i ever seen.

Also, why if not the teachers don't any of the security team at the schools carry weapons?there were almost 13 security people at my school and none of them carried a weapon, not even a knight stick or nothing.The best they could do was radio for someone else that didn't have a weapon for self defense.It's sad to say but schools, after all these shooting are going to need some one on campus who has a firearm. All these college shootings that have been happening could have been nipped in the butt long ago.
 

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Yes its sad whats happened, but in my opinion the american people should never give up there guns, all these shooting that happen are bad but if people used there guns properly for self defence then some of these shootings that go on could be prevented or alot less tragedy's. if guns were banned nothing would of stop any criminals getting a gun anyway. you see alot of negative things about guns on the media ect but they never report when the guns actually save people or protect them.

R.I.P