Under the Skin (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) (WEA) [UK]

[digitalbabe]

Release date: July 14, 2014
Purchase link: Under the skin (Sold Out!)
Price: £24.99
Notes: WEA, Limited to 2000 copies.

Spoiler

 

[bigrob]

Just my 2c

Any updates or info about the product in question is usually reflected in the OP (if we're informed from credible sources) which is always defaulted to the top of the page on every page

So you shouldn't have to trawl through pages and pages of discussions etc.

 

[snooloui]

I don't see how long term members experience is affected. There are people who are waiting on info such as release date, availability, steelbook info and so on. They shouldn't need to recieve an email everytime someone wants to complain about the retailer. That's why we have a seperate thread for that. If we have everything in one thread it will get derailed in Zavvi talk and for the people that want to find info about the actual steelbook it's going to be very difficult.
Off course to a certain extent discussions may stray off topic, that is bound to happen. What we don't want is page after page of continuous off topic posts. Thanks for you understanding. Now can we get back on topic please folks!

I am a regular here, I post every day and have been doing so for the last two years. It is annoying when you're having a discussion and posts are deleted in the interests of these 'people'. In any case, I don't see how the retailer and pricing is off topic, they are important factors in deciding whether to purchase a Steelbook or not.

 

[Horhay]

It's funny how this argument always has 2 sides.

I complained about the Blufans Iron Man thread being nothing but email notifications of people posting custom art.

I was politely told to unsubscribe if I wasn't happy. (Which I did, as 50 or so posts a day of custom artwork was unbearable)

Now if I'm not mistaken there is a thread specifically for custom art. So why is the argument different?

It seems only the mods can pick and choose which content they see applies to the relevant thread.

The custom art thread was specifically made to cater to those who desire to post custom artwork. Release threads shouldn't be inundated with custom artwork otherwise people who are subscribed will get updated with nothing but fan made art. Sure, sometimes some of those go unnoticed and mods cannot get to them. Best way to help us is to use the report button or send any mods or staff member a PM.

I disagree with the 'people subscribe to the threads' point. This is a discussion forum if I'm not mistaken, not a platform for retailers to showcase their products. I appreciate that people like to browse the site to keep updated, but why should the experience of regular long term members be affected?

I don't see how long term members experience is affected. There are people who are waiting on info such as release date, availability, steelbook info and so on. They shouldn't need to recieve an email everytime someone wants to complain about the retailer. That's why we have a seperate thread for that. If we have everything in one thread it will get derailed in Zavvi talk and for the people that want to find info about the actual steelbook it's going to be very difficult.
Off course to a certain extent discussions may stray off topic, that is bound to happen. What we don't want is page after page of continuous off topic posts. Thanks for you understanding. Now can we get back on topic please folks!

We aren't against people discussing a release and we understand that displeasure towards a retailer go hand in hand. However, this discussion goes on in almost every Zavvi thread, at some point it becomes a discussion that overshadows the actual release. So we ask you to go to the retailer thread and voice your opinions about the retailer there. If you don't, this tends to affect those that subscribe to the threads to receive updates and needlessly arguing about Zavvi's tactics in every Zavvi thread doesn't really help anyone.

Not wanting to derail the thread but retailers will sell things as high as they think the market can bear. If Zavvi or any retailer think they can sell X number of units at Y price then they'll charge that. So Zavvi might think they can sell 2000 copies at £24.99, whilst for a wider release they might think 4000 at £19.99. Limited print-runs of any item tend to be more collectable i.e more expensive.

For brand new releases I don't mind paying a few Pounds extra for a steelbook. I'm more weary of catalouge titles being overly marked up. If you can pick up a standard case for around £7 then I think when you start charging above £14.99 for a steelbook then it's moving towards being overpriced (unless it has something signifigantly new to it in terms of features etc..). But that'sjust me others might not think the same.

If this title does sell out it would appear that Zavvi got there price right.

Not trying to defend Zavvi here, so bare with me for a minute, but sometimes the high price tends to come from the high manufacturing costs. There are other fees associated with every release that we just simply don't see or take into account. That could be the case with all these recent releases that come with a 25 quid price tags. A business needs to make a profit and can't operate on loss otherwise it will go the same way some of the other retailers have gone.

If anyone has any further questions or concerns please don't hesitate to contact me or any mods/staff.

 

[wayne71]

Whilst i agree with the posts above, however........



PRE ORDERED!! Lol

Love you guys, we have to be nuts to go through all this just for the thrill of collecting!

 

[Kizza]

Are we still talking about this.......... :movie:

 

[Marcuszoller]

Are we still talking about this.......... :movie:

No

 

[acidbrn]

I generally unsubscribe from a thread once I get my pre-order in, I assume most of those who are bothered by a bunch of post do the same, as such I got my order in! See you all on the next Zavvi release thread!

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[snooloui]

We aren't against people discussing a release and we understand that displeasure towards a retailer go hand in hand. However, this discussion goes on in almost every Zavvi thread, at some point it becomes a discussion that overshadows the actual release. So we ask you to go to the retailer thread and voice your opinions about the retailer there. If you don't, this tends to affect those that subscribe to the threads to receive updates and needlessly arguing about Zavvi's tactics in every Zavvi thread doesn't really help anyone.

If I am subscribed to the Zavvi retailer thread, I want to read about recent experiences from other members and updates to packaging, delivery times, website changes etc. I don't want to know how overpriced Under the Skin is

I'm not saying threads shouldn't be moderated, simply that sometimes a little leeway could be given when a particular issue is a talking point. In my experience, situations like this are dealt with by deleting and moving posts. The end result is that the discussion is not over and simply flares up elsewhere which is even worse.

 

[apsmith21]

I've been in the steelbook game since before 2009 and it's always the same cycle with this type of limited run collectible.

People get upset when a steelbook is out of stock and they forgot to order.

They get upset when someone ordered a bunch and put them on ebay.

They get upset when it doesn't have gloss or it's matte or it's polka dots.

Point being, there are number of avenues and threads to discuss these "themes" and that's why we have dedicated areas for these items and it's the same type of argument that happens again and again and again.

I'm sorry, but I don't know about anyone else, but doesn't some of this stuff get old? The same thing over and over? Now granted there is only so much to chat about, but the reason why we have a thread for each release, the reason why the first post is stickied on the thread, the reason why we ask members to keep to (mostly) a certain topic, is that no matter what happens, that information is organized, centralized and easier to find.

People have disagreements, I get that discussions become heated, but it always spills over into threads and other people then get involved - and then a mod has to delete or move a post, because it becomes inflamed. Most members here don't have a problem, but I know that's just part of any board - there will be troublemakers and folks that just don't get along. If all of you got along, and could be civil and reasonable in all your discussions, there would be no need to mod this steelbook board as heavy as we do.

But on the other hand, the stated goal of HDN is for EVERYONE to feel WELCOME and for EVERYONE to feel that their opinion is valued.

I've been to other boards where there is no mod interaction, and there is no consistent message from the top - about WHY things are being done a certain way - and so HERE, mods are forced to get involved more often than we would like. A LOT of folks work VERY hard in this section, to keep things on track and on task.

And these guidelines are NOT new. They've been around for a VERY long time. I know some new members may not realize what we do and why we do it, every day and this is one of the reasons why I have such a long post.

It's my birthday, and here I am, rolling up the sleeves and getting in the middle of this conversation - I gotta end this rant before I get more upset! :movie:

 

[rapta]

Huge fan of the film but even I won't be paying £24.99 for this. That's a whole TEN POUNDS over the amaray price...seems Zavvi have got the dollar-sign eyes as of late.

 

[RickB84]

It's my birthday

Happy Birthday!

 

[levi]

All the 'important' info regarding steelbook releases in each thread are almost always in the opening post. ie the title, the product image (if available,) the specs of the release, the release date, which retailers its available from etc.

i know when new/updated information on a steel comes in, a mod/poster usually updates the opening post to keep it relevant.

you cant miss that info because it stays on top of the page no matter what page you are on. the OP is for vital statistics... people interested in the facts and figures of an SKU have all the objective info they need.

in my opinion the rest of the thread should be for general discussion, views (positive or negative), opinions, pics- all things related to the release...

 

[shiftyraccoon]

I pre ordered in the end. Hoping it becomes a cult classic

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[levi]

i also agree its not world exclusive art if the same art can be found anywhere else on a release. its just the common amaray cover art.

i like the art so it doesnt matter, but it is misleading to say its WEA. it simply isnt.

they should just stick with saying its a zavvi exclusive steelbook

 

[jimmyv]

people can say whatever they want about zavvi being the retailer and able to charge what they choose as the business. but I can tell you this... they ain't gettin my 24.99 GBP for a regular boring release steelbook. give me extras like cool slipcover options and numbered release and gloss finish guaranteed and good customer service with well protected packaging... and they just might have themselves a deal. oh wait didn't I just described most of the specialty Asian shops that everybody is always saying why do we pay more for their releases. well that's why I'm not willing to pay this much for what is not all those things that I just mentioned. sorry just spittin the truth here that's all.

 

[Jondog21]

i also agree its not world exclusive art if the same art can be found anywhere else on a release. its just the common amaray cover art.

i like the art so it doesnt matter, but it is misleading to say its WEA. it simply isnt.

they should just stick with saying its a zavvi exclusive steelbook

There seems to be only two designations for steelbook exclusivity right now. And that is a specific store exclusive (meaning only in that store in that particular country, but still likely available in other countries). Then the "WEA" for world exclusive art, meaning that nowhere else are you going to get this exact steelbook. I never took that to mean that the art would not be available anywhere else, just that no other steelbook would have the same art.

It seems the issue here is the "A." Just call it a world exclusive. Isn't that more what people care about anyway? That it is a steelbook that will be available no where else in the world with this specific artwork?

 

[Dino Last]

I agree with apsmith21, for me the price is too high so I am not getting it and to be honest it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I liked the look of it, but the price is the price and it's obviously selling well for whatever reason, so all the power to those that are willing to pay that for it. If it means Steelbooks are going to be too expensive for my tastes I will just go back to amarays with nice slipcovers.

I should add that forums are places that people should be able to vent their frustrations, it makes for good conversations, so if people feel fed up with the situation then I can't blame them for venting on here.

 

[psychoscot]

I've asked Zavvi on both Twitter and Facebook to please confirm the finish for this, but as of yet they are in the usual "ignore mode" Will be cancelling this if I haven't had an answer by Friday.

 

[ihategiantspiders]

This bickering is getting under my skin. Sorry, I'll get my coat.

 

[funkydamo]

ive not bothered with this (which means the price will rise lol) as ive bought/pre-ordered too many steels this year already - and a wedding to pay for.
hoping to get it nearer to £20 on the bay, or even on zavvi after it sells out, then returns for ever more.
curious to see the movie though, sounds like it may be a keeper