X-Men: Days of Future Past (Rogue Cut) (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]

[Noodles]

Release date: July 13, 2015
Purchase link: X-Men: Days of Future Past (The Rogue Cut)
Price: £17.99
Notes: Limited to 3000 copies.
Final art TBD

Spoiler

 

[bigrob]

so we can forget lord of the rings extended then???

basil

let me quote the entire post I made. I think you missed the bottom bit

To date, the only extended edition of a film to be released by any studio have been The Hobbit films. Not just Fox

Prime examples of Extended Editions not released in 3D
Avatar
Hansel & Gretal
Green Lantern
G.I Joe Retaliation
The Wolverine
Hercules
Beowulf

 

[levi]

i think most people want nice things. i think most people collect steelbooks because they consider them to be 'nice.' some people said they would have bought this no matter what it looked like... regardless if its hideous. i dont understand that logic. why would you choose to own something that you dont even like?

i mean, if you have a choice, you surround yourself with 'nice things' (whatever that is to you,) you buy clothes you like, a car you like, decorate your house the way you like etc.. you wouldnt go into store and see a jumper and think, i dont like that, its hideous- im going to buy it! so why would you buy a steelbook you dont like. it really defies logic.

i think when you reach that stage, you really are wasting money, because you are no longer surrounding yourself with things which are a positive reflection of you or your tastes, you are no longer enriching your life with things you like and enjoy, instead you are choosing to buy ugly things, things you dont even like... thats mindless consumerism.

 

[tenderheartbear]

It could be simply that someone wants to own the movie, and they ideally want it in a steelbook. So, here's that chance.

I fall in that category myself. I do want to own the movie, and I did want a steelbook wrapped around it, sadly though the artwork is (like many releases) bloody awful. So what choice do I have? Not buy a film I want? Not buy the steelbook version which I want? Or buy it, accepting that it's not as nice as I was hoping it would be?

There are 1000's of releases with terrible artwork that I haven't bought, the reason though being that I don't want those movies. There have been a few I have bought even though the steelbook leaves a lot to be desired (Batman: The Movie, Iron Man 3, The Punisher (both versions)) because I want those movies in steelbooks. It's just a shame the steelbooks weren't as I hoped.

 

[Jaxxx]

Why are people still questioning the reason people ordered this.
1. This movie rocks and if there is an extended cut I do not care about the studio gouging me twice I want to own it and watch it
2. Both the Amaray and SB look hideous. The Amaray is more expensive than the SB currently so your not wasting any money and you can cancel at anytime IT'S A PREORDER! Even if the Amaray comes down in price before it is released, which it most likely will. Most people are going to be willing to spend an extra $5 on the SB because WE ALL LOVE STEELBOOKS! Plus most of us are Marvel nutcases so we need to own EVERYTHING.

The End

 

[ChrisIW]

It could be simply that someone wants to own the movie, and they ideally want it in a steelbook. So, here's that chance.

I fall in that category myself. I do want to own the movie, and I did want a steelbook wrapped around it, sadly though the artwork is (like many releases) bloody awful. So what choice do I have? Not buy a film I want? Not buy the steelbook version which I want? Or buy it, accepting that it's not as nice as I was hoping it would be?

There are 1000's of releases with terrible artwork that I haven't bought, the reason though being that I don't want those movies. There have been a few I have bought even though the steelbook leaves a lot to be desired (Batman: The Movie, Iron Man 3, The Punisher (both versions)) because I want those movies in steelbooks. It's just a shame the steelbooks weren't as I hoped.

@tenderheartbear But did you not get the HMV steelbook for this movie if you wanted a steelbook so badly? I know it's not the "rogue cut", but you could just swap out the disc from a cheaper amaray version if you really wanted. I'm sure a few people will do that. I can't understand why anyone would feel that they HAD to have this version because they like the movie when there's already a much better steelbook available for the same movie - unless you absolutely must have the steelbook refer to the fact that it's a different cut??

I hear what you're saying about the dilemma about not having a steelbook for a movie you really like, I had the same thing when the Guardians of the Galaxy cassette steel first came out (though I didn't cave in and now, luckily, I'm getting the version I always wanted). You see this is where I differ from you, I'd rather not buy the steel if the art is very poor (or has some other major problem or design choice). Otherwise it's like you're saying "I know it's a crap steelbook, but keep 'em coming cos I'll still buy them" - which sets a dangerous precedent that could damage the overall quality of steelbooks in the long term. You have to vote with your wallet sometimes. This is why I keep criticising Zavvi for not doing enough to ensure the studios supply them with steelbooks of a certain standard - and you keep on defending them. It's like you want them to keep churning out garbage

 

[tenderheartbear]

I actually got the Czech version for DoFP as it looked better than the HMV version, and while I could pick up The Rogue Cut cheaper at a later date, I've already taken the 3D disc out of the Czech steelbook and filled the gap with the DVD (yes, I like DVDs and no, I have no need for 3D discs).

Now obviously, I'd like the steelbook for DoFP to look amazing, but it doesn't. I don't want any studio to keep on churning out poor quality steelbooks, but they will and nothing you or I do will change that. This is nothing to do with Zavvi (as much as you love to blame them for everything), it's purely down to Fox, no one else. It's the only artwork available no matter what retailer you use or which country you live in (of course, in the 'future' that might change).

I don't like having pictures on the spine of Disney's Marvel titles, and I wish they didn't. The fact is, it's cheaper and easier to buy from Zavvi or Amazon.de than it is from Best Buy or Futureshop so, fine, I'm part of the problem.

I guess ultimately, once these things end up on the shelf I forget about any issues I have with the design and (apart from the spines) I don't see them again until I pull one off the shelf to watch.

 

[Scary Hair]

Ok I have orded it because LIKE IT .

The gray blue black looks amazing . I have the Amazon Digibook . Happy with that .

Hated the H.M.V steel just looked like a 1980's tranclucent phone

spot the difference

• Scary Hair
• Aug 14, 2014

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Some people are going to love it , some people are going to loath it .

Thank our lucky stars we have now got a choice .

 

[paulboland]

@tenderheartbear But did you not get the HMV steelbook for this movie if you wanted a steelbook so badly? I know it's not the "rogue cut", but you could just swap out the disc from a cheaper amaray version if you really wanted. I'm sure a few people will do that. I can't understand why anyone would feel that they HAD to have this version because they like the movie when there's already a much better steelbook available for the same movie - unless you absolutely must have the steelbook refer to the fact that it's a different cut??

I hear what you're saying about the dilemma about not having a steelbook for a movie you really like, I had the same thing when the Guardians of the Galaxy cassette steel first came out (though I didn't cave in and now, luckily, I'm getting the version I always wanted). You see this is where I differ from you, I'd rather not buy the steel if the art is very poor (or has some other major problem or design choice). Otherwise it's like you're saying "I know it's a crap steelbook, but keep 'em coming cos I'll still buy them" - which sets a dangerous precedent that could damage the overall quality of steelbooks in the long term. You have to vote with your wallet sometimes. This is why I keep criticising Zavvi for not doing enough to ensure the studios supply them with steelbooks of a certain standard - and you keep on defending them. It's like you want them to keep churning out garbage

Again Artwork for X-Men: Days of Future Past - The Rogue Cut has noting to do with Zavvi or Amazon France or any retailer
This release is from FOX and Zavvi just have the retailer exclusive for the UK Steelbook
This a release by Fox and not a release asked by Zavvi to happen

When artwork suggestion is asked by Zavvi is only for a release that they approach the film studio to do a release and the artwork is always done by the film studio no artwork design is done at Zavvi for any releases and any artwork Zavvi suggest is artwork the film studio has created or the film Studio has the rights to the artwork

X-Men: Days of Future Past - The Rogue Cut is not a release were Zavvi approached Fox as its a world wide release


This Artwork is World Wide Artwork
Fox announce release details of the Rouge Cut

Fox Releases "X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut" Box Art




All Amaray Blu-ray and DVD releases have this artwork Worldwide



All Steelbooks have this Artwork
UK and France



The Artwork for the Amaray Blu-ray is the same as the steelbook
The only difference is the steelbook is blue while the Amaray and DVD are red

The Amaray Blu-ray is more expensive than the steelbook
So at the moment its better option to purchase the steelbook even its just for the Blu-ray Disc of the rogue cut

 

[ChrisIW]

I don't want any studio to keep on churning out poor quality steelbooks, but they will and nothing you or I do will change that.

I guess you also don't bother to vote with that logic...

This is nothing to do with Zavvi (as much as you love to blame them for everything), it's purely down to Fox, no one else. It's the only artwork available no matter what retailer you use or which country you live in (of course, in the 'future' that might change).

Again Artwork for X-Men: Days of Future Past - The Rogue Cut has noting to do with Zavvi or Amazon France or any retailer
This release is from FOX and Zavvi just have the retailer exclusive for the UK Steelbook
This a release by Fox and not a release asked by Zavvi to happen

When artwork suggestion is asked by Zavvi is only for a release that they approach the film studio to do a release and the artwork is always done by the film studio no artwork design is done at Zavvi for any releases and any artwork Zavvi suggest is artwork the film studio has created or the film Studio has the rights to the artwork

X-Men: Days of Future Past - The Rogue Cut is not a release were Zavvi approached Fox as its a world wide release

Jesus Christ guys I've already said that I don't blame zavvi for the art on this one (https://www.hidefninja.com/communit...zavvi-exclusive-uk.65199/page-14#post-1399431). You are SO sensitive about zavvi it's crazy!!!

My point was about why you'd buy this SB (when you don't even like it) when there's a better HMV version to choose instead (and no the Rogue cut amaray is not more expensive), and also that buying steelbooks that you don't like send out the wrong message to retailers and studios in general. But of course you ignore almost my entire post and dive straight in to defend zavvi when you didn't even need to . Unbelievable.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

While I'm not overly fond of this artwork, I am an X-Men wh0re and a completest so I've ordered this.

Unfortunately without an alternative artwork there's not a lot to be done.

 

[paulboland]

I guess you also don't bother to vote with that logic...





Jesus Christ guys I've already said that I don't blame zavvi for the art on this one (https://www.hidefninja.com/communit...zavvi-exclusive-uk.65199/page-14#post-1399431). You are SO sensitive about zavvi it's crazy!!!

My point was about why you'd buy this SB (when you don't even like it) when there's a better HMV version to choose instead (and no the Rogue cut amaray is not more expensive), and also that buying steelbooks that you don't like send out the wrong message to retailers and studios in general. But of course you ignore almost my entire post and dive straight in to defend zavvi when you didn't even need to . Unbelievable.

Chris
It was me who posted that article on HDN back in Feb 2014 in the first place have you not grasped that bit yet
Read it were it clearly states in the article
From a concept and ideas point of view, we can suggest, request and influence the artwork. However final say is with the studios and we are often limited to what has been pre-approved. The studio produces the artwork, so no design work is done at Zavvi at all


Days of Future Past - The Rogue Cut is not a release Zavvi approached Fox with for a release its a release decided by Fox and offered as a retailer exclusive
With Zavvi just getting the retailer exclusive for the UK
Other Countries releases will be the same Steelbook
Its the same situation as per that same article
Obviously some releases just pick themselves, Iron Man 3 for instance; always going to get a steelbook release, so would be unfair to take any credit for that

The Steelbook for Rouge Cut will be the same Artwork Worldwide

 

[ChrisIW]

Chris
It was me who posted that article on HDN back in Feb 2014 in the first place have you not grasped that bit yet
Read it were it clearly states in the article
From a concept and ideas point of view, we can suggest, request and influence the artwork. However final say is with the studios and we are often limited to what has been pre-approved. The studio produces the artwork, so no design work is done at Zavvi at all


This is not a release Zavvi approached Fox with for a release its a release decided by Fox
With Zavvi just getting the retailer exclusive for the UK
Other Countries releases will be the same Steelbook
Its the same situation as per that same article
Obviously some releases just pick themselves, Iron Man 3 for instance; always going to get a steelbook release, so would be unfair to take any credit for that

The Steelbook for Rouge Cut will be the same Artwork Worldwide

What the hell is wrong with you?! How about actually reading my posts???

 

[paulboland]

What the hell is wrong with you?! How about actually reading my posts???

The HMV version is not the Rouge Cut
Its a totally different release

A release be it a Steelbook or a Standard Blu-ray
The release is defined by the content its a different cut of the Film on Blu-ray or DVD

HMV release is not the same Film its a different Film on Blu-ray
The Previous release of DOFP is not the same film

You also don't have to purchase it
Others will its called choice you not forced with any release to buy it

If you don't like it that's fine but others want to purchase this steelbook or the amaray they can if they want to and in both releases its the same artwork
Just because you don't like it don't mean others should not purchase it


If I don't like a release I don't buy it
If I want it I will purchase it its that simple as its a different film and I want the Blu-ray of this Film
The Steelbook is a better option considering the Amaray is the same artwork

 

[snooloui]

 

[levi]

if the definition of beauty is something the majority of people agree to be aesthetically pleasing, you know everyone involved in putting this art together failed badly when consumers unanimously agree it is ugly.

 

[tenderheartbear]

I guess you also don't bother to vote with that logic...

Jesus Christ guys I've already said that I don't blame zavvi for the art on this one (https://www.hidefninja.com/communit...zavvi-exclusive-uk.65199/page-14#post-1399431). You are SO sensitive about zavvi it's crazy!!!

My point was about why you'd buy this SB (when you don't even like it) when there's a better HMV version to choose instead (and no the Rogue cut amaray is not more expensive), and also that buying steelbooks that you don't like send out the wrong message to retailers and studios in general. But of course you ignore almost my entire post and dive straight in to defend zavvi when you didn't even need to . Unbelievable.

I do vote, and did so a couple of days ago.

I think though, and I'm sure you'll agree, that there's a difference between a steelbook limited to 3000 for people to buy, and a turn-out of around 66% of voters who wanted to voice their opinion on how a country is run and by whom. Nearly 50 million people compared to 3000 (assuming everyone of those 3000 hated it and complained).

Personally, I did answer your question about the HMV version. I didn't like it. I have the Czech one (I told you that). I also explained why adding this disc to that set wasn't an option. Yes, buying it does give the wrong impression to the studios, and I suppose on many occasions they will just crank out any old design and it will sell. So what do you want me to do about it? If Best Buy and Futureshop offered cheap shipping to the UK I'd happily have bought Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier from them (for the titled spines) rather than support Zavvi or Amazon.de with their titleless versions (Disney wins either way so they don't care) but it's not a realistic option for something as small as a steelbook spine.

In short, I want The Rogue Cut in a steelbook of its own. I'll be buying the Zavvi version as it's better than the French one (the same way I'd rather a US DVD over a Canadian one with bilingual packaging). If it wasn't a Zavvi exclusive in the UK and I could get it from Amazon.co.uk for the same price in their better packaging with their superior customer service I would, but I can't. If there was a choice of designs all at the same price I'd by a different one but their isn't.

So, Zavvi it is.

 

[paulboland]

if the definition of beauty is something the majority of people agree to be aesthetically pleasing, you know everyone involved in putting this art together failed badly when consumers unanimously agree it is ugly.

I agree the artwork is not the best
But we all want the Rouge Cut of the Film

We have 3 choices
1)Steelbook
2)Amaray Blu-ray
3)DVD

All 3 releases use the same artwork so for me as I prefer steelbooks to an Amaray Case I will get the Steelbook
If the Amaray Blu-ray had of been lot better artwork or contained exclusive extras not available in the steelbook then I would get the Amaray

I rather have a steelbook of a release if the artwork and content of the Blu-ray is the same and what retailer is selling it makes no difference to me
I purchase steelbooks and Blu-rays from all over the world
We have only 2 choices of Artwork with minor differences
Red the Amaray
Blue the Steelbook

 

[Ronnie3067]

While I'm not overly fond of this artwork, I am an X-Men wh0re and a completest so I've ordered this.

Unfortunately without an alternative artwork there's not a lot to be done.

I managed to restrain from getting this however I still look at it thinking, should I have got it? It is a different movie, kind of, sort of. If I didn't have about half a dozen on pre-order already then I believe I may have caved much like yourself.

 

[ChrisIW]

The HMV version is not the Rouge Cut
Its a totally different release

A release be it a Steelbook or a Standard Blu-ray
The release is defined by the content its a different cut of the Film on Blu-ray or DVD

HMV release is not the same Film its a different Film on Blu-ray
The Previous release of DOFP is not the same film

You also don't have to purchase it others will its called choice you not forced with any release to buy it
If you don't like it that's fine but others want to purchase this steelbook and they can if they want to


If I don't like a release I don't buy it and if I want it I will its that simple

Would you kindly leave me alone please, apart from anything else this is one of the most tedious discussions I've ever had.. Also, I wasn't even talking to you, I was saying to tenderheartbear that he could put the Rogue Cut disc into the HMV steelbook as he didn't actually like the art for this but DID want a steelbook for it. I was merely trying to make a suggestion. Then you burst in here ranting on about zavvi (when I'd already agreed they didn't decide this art), and going on about how people can buy what they want...yes I know, where did I say otherwise??? You seem to be arguing against things that I haven't even said. Some people like scaryhair like it or want it to complete their collection - that's fine, I'm pleased for them. I don't know why you're getting so aggressive.

I'm happy with my HMV release so I was never going to get this release, but I was trying to see it from the point of view of others who were frustrated by the art, etc.

PS - tenderheartbear sorry, I'm referring to you as a guy (apologies if you're not LOL ).

 

[levi]

All 3 releases use the same artwork

its a completely wasted opportunity and one that renders the steelbook pointless. why have a different (premium) package with the same art as the amaray? it makes absolutely no sense. its insulting because the only reasons they could have done that is pure laziness, and because they know steelbook collectors will buy it regardless

i dont own Xmen days of future, but i was thinking of getting it. the rogue cut would have been ideal. but i would rather buy the hmv exclusive than this version which is too ugly to own unless you are a die hard xmen fan.