Avengers (3D+2D Blu-ray SteelBook) (Novamedia Exclusive No.5) [Korea]

[teddyjun]

Release date: May 12, 2015
Note: Front title "embossed" - Full glossy
Purchase link: ALL SOLD OUT!
Fullslip Type A $49 - 1,000 copies
Fullslip Type B $49 - 1,000 copies
Fullslip Type C $49 - 1,000 copies
Lenticular Slip $49 - 2,000 copies
One click combo $187

Package details:
- 3D+2D disc
- Lenticular poster card 1EA
- Art card 6EA
- 36 pages booklet (English & Korean)

Spoiler: Full Slips

Spoiler: Lenticular

Spoiler: Actual pics of the steelbook

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[AnubisNefer]

the GB is currently at 273 entries, the one at the other place at 137 (and that's not even the only two GB taking place for this). now, if everybody ordered a 1-click, this would mean that at least 1600 copies (or an estimated 40% of the whole print-run) would go to only one person @Masterblaster, that can only be bought for a premium price (considering all the added fees). imo., that's WAY too much for something that can be ordered worldwide anyway.

10% of the whole print-run should be the maximum for group buys of editions like this.

this was on my mind for a couple of weeks already, sorry i had to let it out. it really bothers me.

And that is all because of Nova's doing ;-)

Business wise I can understand, because for really low hassle, you get a return of profit which exceeds single orders by the mile.

But it leaves the a percentage of customers without... For example the ZDT release which had multiple groupbuys also and while there were copies still available, they weren't allowed to be allocated elsewhere besides the USA. No harm done there, because a deal is a deal, but I felt bad seeing all those copies go, while I could have had one.

That bothered me also. Now it's out of my system.

 

[BluSteel2012]

I'm just curious, but does HDN encourage these Asian group buys (that are freely available to order worldwide) with the thought of creating a large influx of revenue for the site?? As they know these titles will be very popular and generate a lot of participants and sales (and GB fees) for the site?

I know it's a valuable service to some, but it does hike up the price a fair bit compared to ordering directly.

I'm not knocking it. I guess it depends how each individual sees it and what they get out of it (eg: some don't want to be up at all hours trying to order and so they think it's worth the extra cost to join the GB)

And at the end of the day, I suppose it's a good thing that we have the choice if we want to avail of it or not.

I really want to get a copy of this, but I'm not sure if I should join the GB or not? We don't even know what the total cost to budget for will be. So it's hard to commit on that front alone until I know what the total will be.

 

[SlyFondle]

I think its safe to say that this will be a 4k print run so anyone who wants a copy should be able to get one. 4 different versions so probably 1k of each type. No fewer than 200 one clicks but probably no more than 400.

You forgot to mention that 50% will be reserved for the Korean market, so there are, maybe, 500 copies of each version available.

 

[severo]

I'm just curious, but does HDN encourage these Asian group buys (that are freely available to order worldwide) with the thought of creating a large influx of revenue for the site?? As they know these titles will be very popular and generate a lot of participants and sales (and GB fees) for the site?

I know it's a valuable service to some, but it does hike up the price a fair bit compared to ordering directly.

I'm not knocking it. I guess it depends how each individual sees it and what they get out of it (eg: some don't want to be up at all hours trying to order and so they think it's worth the extra cost to join the GB)

And at the end of the day, I suppose it's a good thing that we have the choice if we want to avail of it or not.

my answer to your first question would be YES.

and i also think it's good to have a choice, but the GB should be much more limited. for example, make the GB for premium members only. that would encourage a lot of people to finally get the HDN premium and would mean a lot of revenue for HDN as well. just a thought...

 

[bevins2012]

You forgot to mention that 50% will be reserved for the Korean market, so there are, maybe, 500 copies of each version available.

Well, yeah, but thats the same for every Nova release, so its not going to make it harder to order than past releases.

 

[SlyFondle]

Well, yeah, but thats the same for every Nova release, so its not going to make it harder to order than past releases.

And that's the problem. Their last release with a demand to rival 'The Avengers' was 'Drive'......

 

[StifflersDad]

In this instance though who are you repeatedly referring to as a reseller?

Masterblaster has my full consent to secure my copy for me in a gb and Nova have given him their consent to provide copies to me (and others) as we require his services at that time. Hosting a group buy isn't to be confused with reselling.

I am certainly not reselling any of my Nova exclusives and I have every single variation of every exclusive they have released (yes, even Begin Again). You could say I'm one of their more valuable customers even though I haven't bought all of them directly from their site.

I know where you are coming from regarding copies falling into the 'wrong hands', but the large majority of the gb participants are genuine collectors who prefer the ease of securing a copy and supporting the forum in doing so. Of course I won't pretend reselling doesn't happen but one way or another they will get their hands on extra copies so getting those group buys closed down might not have made much difference anyway.

We have discussed this before but the same point keeps getting made so I thought it was only fair that the other viewpoint gets represented again.

There are many different collectors in this hobby and over the years more efficient ways of securing copies are ever evolving to suit the majorities needs. Group buys are one of those ways and are probably here for the foreseeable future. If I choose to partake in a group buy or order direct the end result is that I pretty much always get what I'm looking to acquire so I personally don't see or have a problem with them.

Remember that we mostly all want the same thing but just go about it in different ways sometimes

People with deep pockets never have a problem with group buys.

 

[psychoscot]

People with deep pockets never have a problem with group buys.

I don't have deep pockets, I'm just far more selective on the steels I buy than some people. So have more money for special releases [emoji3]

Some people have tons of zavvi preorders etc where I have one.

 

[earthscope]

I am not going to get into all the different points regarding the GB's for Nova exclusives...

But I will say this I am (have always been) firmly in the camp against them. If the supplier ships worldwide then you should have to order it yourself...IMO

I mean as an example, Kimchi do not offer GB's for their exclusives and we still survive (get our orders in) so what's the difference with Nova?
If you really want something bad enough you will find a way to order it...

And I have nothing against the GB leaders or this site. They provide an excellent service when needed...(the retailer does not ship world wide)

The problem stems with Nova basically...

Anyway I have said it now...Moving on.

 

[StifflersDad]

I am not going to get into all the different points regarding the GB's for Nova exclusives...

But I will say this I am (have always been) firmly in the camp against them. If the supplier ships worldwide then you should have to order it yourself...IMO
I mean as an example, Kimchi do not offer GB's for their exclusives and we still survive (get our orders in) so what's the difference with Nova?
If you really want something bad enough you will find a way to order it...

Couldn't have said it better mate.

 

[jeffster15]

I am not going to get into all the different points regarding the GB's for Nova exclusives...

But I will say this I am (have always been) firmly in the camp against them. If the supplier ships worldwide then you should have to order it yourself...IMO
I mean as an example, Kimchi do not offer GB's for their exclusives and we still survive (get our orders in) so what's the difference with Nova?
If you really want something bad enough you will find a way to order it...

And I have nothing against the GB leaders or this site. They provide an excellent service when needed...(the retailer does not ship world wide)

The problem stems with Nova basically...

Anyway I have said it now...Moving on.

100% agree

 

[davhyl]

^ agree too

 

[TobinFrost]

I am not going to get into all the different points regarding the GB's for Nova exclusives...

But I will say this I am (have always been) firmly in the camp against them. If the supplier ships worldwide then you should have to order it yourself...IMO
I mean as an example, Kimchi do not offer GB's for their exclusives and we still survive (get our orders in) so what's the difference with Nova?
If you really want something bad enough you will find a way to order it...

And I have nothing against the GB leaders or this site. They provide an excellent service when needed...(the retailer does not ship world wide)

The problem stems with Nova basically...

Anyway I have said it now...Moving on.

 

[UpsetSmiley]

I am not going to get into all the different points regarding the GB's for Nova exclusives...

But I will say this I am (have always been) firmly in the camp against them. If the supplier ships worldwide then you should have to order it yourself...IMO
I mean as an example, Kimchi do not offer GB's for their exclusives and we still survive (get our orders in) so what's the difference with Nova?
If you really want something bad enough you will find a way to order it...

And I have nothing against the GB leaders or this site. They provide an excellent service when needed...(the retailer does not ship world wide)

The problem stems with Nova basically...

Anyway I have said it now...Moving on.

I can understand that, but it's nice to know there's an alternative source besides the black market. It's piece of mind knowing there are nice people on here willing to help even if it is above cost. I join the occasional GB, for example Film Arena GB's are beneficial to a lot of people since being cheaper than ordering directly from the website.

 

[StifflersDad]

I can understand that, but it's nice to know there's an alternative source besides the black market. It's piece of mind knowing there are nice people on here willing to help even if it is above cost. I join the occasional GB, for example Film Arena GB's are beneficial to a lot of people since being cheaper than ordering directly from the website.

Film Arena GB is a special situation where it is substantially cheaper buying through the GB.

 

[yy0925]

For me, if someone (in this case GB host) is willing to help other members to get a steelbook from a retailer, whether or not they ship worldwide, I'm thankful. It's like my wife going to our local Media Markt for me because I'm at work. There is absolutely nothing wrong about it.

if you don't like the GB for this release, just don't join. It's that simple.

 

[snooloui]

The whole point of a group buy is to help those who would otherwise find it difficult or impossible to purchase a particular Steelbook. I don't see why it should be restricted to retailers with limited shipping arrangements. If a collector is not able to get to a computer when a listing goes live or their preferred payment method is not accepted by a particular retailer (as a couple of examples), why should they miss out? It is commonly said that a collector should 'find a way' if they really want something, I think a group buy is a good a way as any.

 

[JackRegan]

The whole point of a group buy is to help those who would otherwise find it difficult or impossible to purchase a particular Steelbook. I don't see why it should be restricted to retailers with limited shipping arrangements. If a collector is not able to get to a computer when a listing goes live or their preferred payment method is not accepted by a particular retailer (as a couple of examples), why should they miss out? It is commonly said that a collector should 'find a way' if they really want something, I think a group buy is a good a way as any.

Yes, Snoo, I've heard people saying "If you want this you'll find a way to be at your computer" many times - it usually comes from clever buggers who spent 24 hours (or apparently) glued to their PC screen, and rarely in praise of someone actually facilitating the 'finding'.

Only thing that narks me somethimes about GBs is that a number of buyers abuse the privilege by ordering multiple numbers of extremely limited run steels - I know John (Masterblaster) commented on this the other day, expressing the wish that buyers did NOT re-sell.

Stiffler, Re: FilmArena - as I said the other day - postage from them is scandalous - as we all know .More's the pity as their exclusives are almost always extremely reasonably priced.
A shame Carl cannot run GBs for all their catalogue.

 

[SteelMadien]

There's nothing wrong with gb only for those who abuse the system. And that's the case with a lot of thing. I won't be able to be at a computer to "TRY" and get this so a gb is a helpful option.

 

[BluSteel2012]

Film Arena GB is a special situation where it is substantially cheaper buying through the GB.

Karel is a legend!