Iron Man (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Kimchidvd Exclusive #12) [Korea]

[Choi Chungkwon]

Release date: December 5, 2014
Purchase links: Lenticular (SOLD OUT) - 1/4 Slip (SOLD OUT) (Pre-order on November 10 at 11 PM Korea time UTC+9. UK: 2 PM GMT / USA (east) 9 AM / USA (west) 6 AM ) Please use the following timezone converter to find out the time in your area
Price: $42.90$ (after 3 days, $44.99)
Package detail:
- 2 discs
- Lenticular
- 1/4 slip
Print run: 3.7K
1850 for Oversea, 1850 for Local
Order Limit Qty:
Lenticular Edition : 2 per order
1/4 Slip : 1 per order

Paramount approved artwork

Spoiler: Interior Art

Spoiler: Lenticular Slip

Spoiler: Quarter Slip

 

[Bigmac]

And...for those of us who DID NOT get a letter???????

Ron

If like me you haven't received any custom letter, we can only assume the IM is lost or the customs letter has been lost or not issued.

I have rang custom's like most on here and gave them my details and they tell me they have nothing on screen for my address or details.

So will wait for another week to see outcome of other's who have had letter & pray it arrives. Failing that I will ask for a refund

 

[Lionel]

Least we know why Kimichi have changed to Pantos now for delivery to the UK. I have the same problem with my Dark Knight Rises White steel I bought from Novamedia which left Incheon on the 13th on the dreaded AF267 flight and still hasn't moved since, Custom's blow goats. They always have a clampdown on the run up to Christmas, I had 3 packages stopped last year with Fedex, I had to send Fedex the invoices by email and they released them. The problem with Royal Mail is there is no tracking available, so you don't know where they are. I'm going to try ringing Royal Mail to see if they can find out what's going on in the morning.

 

[NoDingsNoScratches]

So let's assume that customs destroy the IMs. People who already got this what do you think the victims should do? Ask for a refund or write off? I know there are some affluent folks here but would still need them to put themselves in the victim's shoes and provide a honest answer please.

As of now, I am thinking of writing off and try to make up for the loss by selling some other collectible stuffs.

I personally think that if you don't receive your items (in acceptable condition), that kimchi should give you a full refund.

Don't be quick to turn to the dark side, and become an evil scalper.

I know it must be devastating to not have received this, but have faith that Tony will resolve this.

 

[StifflersDad]

I didn't receive a letter from BF. (just to clarify).

To me the issue is very simple. I paid for goods.

I haven't received the goods.

Don't know whose fault. One thing for sure IT'S NOT MY FAULT!

THEREFORE I SURE AS HELL NOT GOING TO WRITE THIS OFF.

CHOICE IS SIMPLE. GOODS OR MONEY. KIMCHI CAN DECIDE. THEY CAN RESHIP OR REFUND.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHOICE.

 

[gbdragon]

Happy new year [emoji106]

 

[wolf254]

Don't be quick to turn to the dark side, and become an evil scalper.

I don't think that selling one's own possessions for the current market value is equivalent to buying something you don't want, that's produced in limited quantities, for the sole purpose of selling it at an inflated price. The former is simply supply and demand, while the latter is deliberately depriving people of a product just to sell it to them for more than they would've paid otherwise.

I think it's great when people sell valuable possessions without trying to make a profit, but at the same time I can't hold it against people for following basic economic principles.

 

[NoDingsNoScratches]

I don't think that selling one's own possessions for the current market value is equivalent to buying something you don't want, that's produced in limited quantities, for the sole purpose of selling it at an inflated price. The former is simply supply and demand, while the latter is deliberately depriving people of a product just to sell it to them for more than they would've paid otherwise.

I think it's great when people sell valuable possessions without trying to make a profit, but at the same time I can't hold it against people for following basic economic principles.

Your right it's not the same a deliberately buying to deprive others and make a buck

And I stand corrected,

Selling at a reasonable price of what it's worth (not inflated) is ones right and Im thankful to many a ninja seller who sold me items at reasonable prices.

 

[justhedudeman]

Some of you guys should stop importing steels, you don't have the patience for the game. It's like you don't even know it's the holiday season. It's time to move on.

 

[PKAVFC]

Some of you guys should stop importing steels, you don't have the patience for the game. It's like you don't even know it's the holiday season. It's time to move on.

This comment is as if you only read the last few pages of this thread. It's not going to make people affected by this feel better about the situation.

You talk about patience... Have you not seen those effected are well established collectors on HDN? They will have imported steels before Iron Man, so they will know about timescales etc. There is a little bit more to this than that.

People have been told their items will be destroyed, where as some just haven't received anything at all. This too, when the majority have now all received their copies over the "holiday season"

This is not life or death, but it will be a stressful time for those who are having to deal with this situation.

This in the main, is a very supportive community when problems arise.

As I have said before, to all of you dealing with this, I hope it works out for you guys, whether it be refund or finally getting the product. It's not time to "move on" but to keep on battling away until you get a resolution

 

[Gadget]

Just wait till HDZeta finally starts shipping Gladiator...imagine the chaos. All those Asian steelbooks. Kimchidvd, blufans...

 

[snooloui]

I respect your opinion, but requesting a refund for an item you have not received is just the common sense thing to do.

If it somehow arrives after the refund and the person keeps it and does not pay, that is more of an issue of morality. I will never pay for fresh air.

Each to their own of course

The thing is if everyone here is sure that these goods are not counterfeit, how can someone then claim a refund on the basis that the goods are counterfeit? If you instead claim non-receipt but you have received a letter stating that the package is being held by Border Force, how can you then claim a refund on the basis that the goods are lost when they are not? Tony has acted in good faith but will come out of this worse off simply because Paypal regulations massively favour the buyer. It is definitely an issue of morality.

 

[ChrisWatts85]

Just bought one of these on eBay from asiasteelz, going to be shipping it from Italy so hoping it gets through

 

[smileyx9]

Just bought one of these on eBay from asiasteelz, going to be shipping it from Italy so hoping it gets through

It´s within the EU,it will be through customs without Problems
btw.great Seller-bit expensive but great coms and ships from Italy instead from Switzerland,bought from him before and had no problems

 

[ChrisWatts85]

It´s within the EU,it will be through customs without Problems
btw.great Seller-bit expensive but great coms and ships from Italy instead from Switzerland,bought from him before and had no problems

Managed to get it for £58, which I'm happy with. First time I've used that seller so that's good to hear. Unfortunately it looks like this release has turned into a nightmare for a lot of people :-/

 

[PKAVFC]

The thing is if everyone here is sure that these goods are not counterfeit, how can someone then claim a refund on the basis that the goods are counterfeit? If you instead claim non-receipt but you have received a letter stating that the package is being held by Border Force, how can you then claim a refund on the basis that the goods are lost when they are not? Tony has acted in good faith but will come out of this worse off simply because Paypal regulations massively favour the buyer. It is definitely an issue of morality.

First of all, it's not an issue of whether they are counterfeit - we know they are not, but BF, like idiots, suspect they are.

Claiming Non Receipt is just that - a claim for no steelbook received.

No one has said that Anyone receiving a letter should claim it as lost.

Members like @Towser have received nothing at all, not even a letter. Should he need now struggle with his deepest feelings and morality to claim a refund - no he shouldn't.

In all honesty, I don't care about Tony/Kimchi coming off worse. I would much rather an individual given recompense than the retailer in this situation. Their after service is poor and they very much adopt a "not my problem" approach to business.

As I have stated before, it's an issue of morality if the people receive refunds and days later the steel arrives. If they decide keep it and not pay Kimchi for it, then that is wrong.

 

[snooloui]

First of all, it's not an issue of whether they are counterfeit - we know they are not, but BF, like idiots, suspect they are.

Claiming Non Receipt is just that - a claim for no steelbook received.

No one has said that Anyone receiving a letter should claim it as lost, so your coming at me from an angle that you created all by yourself.

Members like @Towser have received nothing at all, not even a letter. Should he need now struggle with his deepest feelings and morality to claim a refund - no he shouldn't.

In all honesty, I don't care about Tony/Kimchi coming off worse. I would much rather an individual given recompense than the retailer in this situation. Their after service is poor and they very much adopt a "not my problem" approach to business.

As I have stated before, it's an issue of morality if the people receive refunds and days later the steel arrives. If they decide keep it and not pay Kimchi for it, then that is wrong.

The thing is that you have no problem claiming a refund on this but what if the tables were turned? For example if you had not received the package but the tracking stated that you had, would you find it acceptable for Tony to refuse to refund you simply because Paypal's regulations favoured him? I don't think you would. I know it is a very unfortunate situation but ultimately importing does carry risks.

 

[tokaman]

The thing is that you have no problem claiming a refund on this but what if the tables were turned? For example if you had not received the package but the tracking stated that you had, would you find it acceptable for Tony to refuse to refund you simply because Paypal's regulations favoured him? I don't think you would. I know it is a very unfortunate situation but ultimately importing does carry risks.

Talk about clutching at straws just to have the last word

 

[zoneism]

I seriously hope that the outcome in this situation is that UKBF don't destroy the steelbooks and that everyone gets their copies, because any other outcome seems like it will destroy the reputation of a very good business (as well as cost it a small fortune when the issue is not their fault, with inevitable knock on effects to us the collectors in the long run) and it's also causing quite a few problems on the forum too. Come on peeps, let's not fall out over this stressful situation.

Tony has provided the the relevant documents, so it is down to UKBF to make the final decision (hopefully after carrying out a proper investigation) . I don't know that I trust them to make the right move next but am definitely keeping my fingers crossed for all affected.

The question of morality is an interesting one. As a hardcore collector of kimchi steelbooks and longtime supporter of kimchidvd I know what I would do if I was in this situation, but I am in a position to write off the loss whereas others will feel impacted by that loss and therefore feel they are owed compensation.

I'm sure that Tony will be thinking and working very hard on how to ensure everyone can be impacted the least (if UKBF do destroy the items) as that is the type of person he is. The communication might not always be up to scratch but he is always working tirelessly to keep his operation running as smoothly as possible. But he is one man and the main man at that, so people need to bear that in mind. If that's not good enough then you need to make a decision about ordering from them in future.

One thing to note... it's my understanding that once items are seized by Border Force then they are technically classed as delivered, which means that the seller has fulfilled their duties once they have provided the relevant documents (if requested). This is a pretty crap situation for the buyer of course. At that point morality could come into play on Tony's part and I'm sure everyone will be expecting him to think selflessly, rather than selfishly, despite what moral stance they have taken themselves in the meantime.

Wishing you all the best of luck and also a Happy New Year!

 

[PKAVFC]

The thing is that you have no problem claiming a refund on this but what if the tables were turned? For example if you had not received the package but the tracking stated that you had, would you find it acceptable for Tony to refuse to refund you simply because Paypal's regulations favoured him? I don't think you would. I know it is a very unfortunate situation but ultimately importing does carry risks.

You are using extreme examples here and to be honest, they are not really relevant. Using your example, if the tracking said it had been delivered to my address and it had not, then first off, it's a Royal Mail issue. I would investigate internally with them and seek written proof the item was not received. I would then send this to Paypal.

The issue actually at hand is that some copies have been detained and some have just disappeared. At this point, the tracking on the item shows it is not with the customer, so there is no dispute there.

So let me ask you this... If these steelbooks end up destroyed and/or never arrive, should the customers just take the blow financially and put it down to "the risks"

So if this was your steelbook and you never get it delivered, then you are happy to let Kimchi keep your money?

 

[PKAVFC]

I seriously hope that the outcome in this situation is that UKBF don't destroy the steelbooks and that everyone gets their copies, because any other outcome seems like it will destroy the reputation of a very good business (as well as cost it a small fortune when the issue is not their fault, with inevitable knock on effects to us the collectors in the long run) and it's also causing quite a few problems on the forum too. Come on peeps, let's not fall out over this stressful situation.

Tony has provided the the relevant documents, so it is down to UKBF to make the final decision (hopefully after carrying out a proper investigation) . I don't know that I trust them to make the right move next but am definitely keeping my fingers crossed for all affected.

The question of morality is an interesting one. As a hardcore collector of kimchi steelbooks and longtime supporter of kimchidvd I know what I would do if I was in this situation, but I am in a position to write off the loss whereas others will feel impacted by that loss and therefore feel they are owed compensation.

I'm sure that Tony will be thinking and working very hard on how to ensure everyone can be impacted the least (if UKBF do destroy the items) as that is the type of person he is. The communication might not always be up to scratch but he is always working tirelessly to keep his operation running as smoothly as possible. But he is one man and the main man at that, so people need to bear that in mind. If that's not good enough then you need to make a decision about ordering from them in future.

One thing to note... it's my understanding that once items are seized by Border Force then they are technically classed as delivered, which means that the seller has fulfilled their duties once they have provided the relevant documents (if requested). This is a pretty crap situation for the buyer of course. At that point morality could come into play on Tony's part and I'm sure everyone will be expecting him to think selflessly, rather than selfishly, despite what moral stance they have taken themselves in the meantime.

Wishing you all the best of luck and also a Happy New Year!

A point well made

All in all, I have maintained I hope either way, this is rectified as soon as possible for everyone.

Me having my say was from people posting in a manner which was very much "get over it" when it has been a stressful time for many. Not a fan of people being kicked when they are down.

Anyhow, good luck everyone.