Nova Media retailer thread [Korea]

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[tokaman]

like someone else mentioned before, the whole print-run will get divided 50/50 with the korean market, so having more than 50% of the international quantity reserved already (in a worst-case scenario it would be more like 80%), it seems just wrong to me to handle it this way.
people are not against the GB in general, from what i can read here, it's just the amount of copies that people (including myself) are worried about, plus the decreasing chance of succeeding in ordering directly from the retailer.
it should be a PREMIUM service for those who missed out (after the live-time on the retailer site, that was a good idea), but i'm not willing to pay 35-40% above retail price in a GB, that's about the same as the ebay ("scalping") prices anyway.

35-40% more cost to join a group buy? I may have to reconsider as that is way more than I thought it would be.

 

[paulboland]

I'm just waiting for the announcement of the international print run and prices

With 3 separate Full Slips and a Lenticular even for now ignoring the group buys and how many requests have been done its going to be a limited supply regardless
Local Korea and International the print run will be either 50/50 or 40/60 split its been that way majority of the time with NovaMedia

Its all going to depend on what the overall print run is going to be
Will it be 4,000 or 5,000 or 6,000 or more

If its 4,000 for example and its a 50/50 split

That will mean a 2,000 international print run
From this 2,000 it will then be split amongst each version

3 Full Slips will most likely have same print run each
Lenticular similar to a full slip print run
Then a one click will have an allocation out of the print run
It could be
Full Slip A 300
Full Slip B 300
Full Slip C 300
Lenticular 300
One Click 200 = 200x 4 versions = 800
Total 2,000

I just hope the Print run is going to double the usual print run
If its only going to be 2,000 the international print run
It will be very difficult to get an order in and that's not even taking into account the group buys

 

[C.C. 95]

like someone else mentioned before, the whole print-run will get divided 50/50 with the korean market, so having more than 50% of the international quantity reserved already (in a worst-case scenario it would be more like 80%), it seems just wrong to me to handle it this way.
people are not against the GB in general, from what i can read here, it's just the amount of copies that people (including myself) are worried about, plus the decreasing chance of succeeding in ordering directly from the retailer.
it should be a PREMIUM service for those who missed out (after the live-time on the retailer site, that was a good idea), but i'm not willing to pay 35-40% above retail price in a GB, that's about the same as the ebay ("scalping") prices anyway.

What I paid for Wick and Cap 1 on GB is nowhere near what is being asked on eBay.
Your numbers are way off.

 

[earthscope]

It looks like GB has filled up nearly half the allotted international stock. And I am sure some of the folks on the GB would try to order directly which means the folks who are accused of glueing to the computer screen 24 hours would not get theirs. [emoji33]

 

[davhyl]

I think they should do a pre order special for the "1 click" option, buy the 3 full slip versions and get the lenticular for free. That should stop the whining and complaining real fast.

Yeah, but then you would get people saying, "all of these people who have got discount copies and just selling them for extortionate rates on ebay, when I can't even get a copy"
swings and roundabouts...
Hopefully I can grab the Fullslip B if I'm up that late

 

[severo]

What I paid for Wick and Cap 1 on GB is nowhere near what is being asked on eBay.
Your numbers are way off.

ordering directly from nova:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping) = $55.

GB:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping to GB host) + $4 HDN fee + $4 GB host fee + estimated $10 customs fee + estimated $12 shipping to my place + $5 paypal fee = $85.

my numbers are not way off. maybe some of these steels will fetch even higher prices at the bay, but $30 difference on a single steelbook, sorry, THAT's what's way off here.

 

[prouuun]

ordering directly from nova:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping) = $55.

GB:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping to GB host) + $4 HDN fee + $4 GB host fee + estimated $10 customs fee + estimated $12 shipping to my place + $5 paypal fee = $85.

my numbers are not way off. maybe some of these steels will fetch even higher prices at the bay, but $30 difference on a single steelbook, sorry, THAT's what's way off here.

I only use a GB for Shops there i cannot order blufans etc... on Nova i order for myself always the best way

 

[Sigill]

35-40% more cost to join a group buy? I may have to reconsider as that is way more than I thought it would be.

It is nowhere near that amount. HDN hosted GBs charge a small amount extra which goes towards the maintenance and running of the forum. Off course with extra delivery charges it will work out slightly more expensive but it is nowhere near ebay prices.

 

[apsmith21]

ordering directly from nova:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping) = $55.

GB:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping to GB host) + $4 HDN fee + $4 GB host fee + estimated $10 customs fee + estimated $12 shipping to my place + $5 paypal fee = $85.

my numbers are not way off. maybe some of these steels will fetch even higher prices at the bay, but $30 difference on a single steelbook, sorry, THAT's what's way off here.

My costs for John Wick. Let's use your $45 to start so things are comparable.

$3.80 shipping per edition to me.
$3 HDN fee
$0 host fee
No customs fee
Shipping for 1 edition to Europe or UK ($16 for the heavier Nova editions, normally $13.41)
Insurance $1.30
Box and packing supplies are usually $1.50

Total, $70.60

And oh, by the way, I'm not running a GB on here for Avengers! More copies for all you folks that are upset and bemoan the fact that I take them all!

Thanks for the feedback though.

EDIT - you'll note our non-staff HDN assessed fees have been raised, the first time since 2011, to $2 per edition sold. It has historically only been $1.

 

[tokaman]

I really am going to think about the costs incurred using GB's here at HDN. I've never used one before as I usually just order direct but I felt a GB might be a good idea for the Avengers as not to miss it. Now I'm thinking it might not be such a good idea as I can no way afford all those fees for this, that and the other. Imagine the final cost of all four variants via GB it would be astronomical. That then puts thoughts into my mind as to wether or not I should bother at all even trying direct. Too many variants coming out with every title released it's absurd.

Edit: Hardly surprising they put the GB FEE UP FROM $1 to $2 when they know how many of these Asian releases they will shift. It's a licence to print money!

 

[apsmith21]

I really am going to think about the costs incurred using GB's here at HDN. I've never used one before as I usually just order direct but I felt a GB might be a good idea for the Avengers as not to miss it. Now I'm thinking it might not be such a good idea as I can no way afford all those fees for this, that and the other. Imagine the final cost of all four variants via GB it would astronomical. That then puts thoughts into my mind as to wether or not I should bother at all even trying direct. Too many variants coming out with every title released it's absurd.

I think for the completist collector, you are absolutely correct, it does not make as much sense to go the GB route to grab a copy. The alternative is really for the collector that for some reason couldn't make the live time, or forgot or whatever, and wanted a copy.

Now, in the past, I will say that I have gotten a FLOOD of messages from members on here looking for a copy of a sold out edition.

A few of those people that were saying publicly on here and in other places like Facebook, oh group buys are so expensive, you guys are just out to make money and take away any chance for me to get a copy, were the same people approaching me privately about getting copies (and sometimes more than 1 copy).

 

[paulboland]

It is nowhere near that amount. HDN hosted GBs charge a small amount extra which goes towards the maintenance and running of the forum. Off course with extra delivery charges it will work out slightly more expensive but it is nowhere near ebay prices.

Taking the HDN group buy
Prices not shown fully yet but it does state the following
Steelbook ($) + shipping from KR to me (x$) + import tax = Customs charges (divided among all SBs) + $4 for my time and work (per Steelbook for the first , for any after that $3) + shipping to you (x$) and then you have on top of this PayPal fee that's not mentioned

I can understand the charges and I don't have any problems with them as you cant expect anyone running a group buy be out of pocket and do hard work for free

But the facts remain majority of customers will want the expense of ordering a steelbook be the cheapest option and also have delivery as quickest option

This is why me and others want to order direct its saves a lot of money and you get delivery a lot quicker as for me its 7-12 days after been shipped

For Euro Customers with exchange rate not very good against the $ its also a even more reason to order direct than use a group buy

When its a release that's a retailer that don't ship worldwide then you of course have no choice but to use a group buy and that's a choice to order or not in that situation and if its a release I want I will do that order using a group buy

When its a release that from a retailer that ships worldwide for me 2 important factors
The reason I order direct
Its a lot cheaper to order direct
You have a lot quicker delivery

I have noting against any group buy and anyone who runs a group buy they do offer a brilliant service but I do not agree with the retailer that ships worldwide providing more than 10% to max 20% of a print run
When its a retailer that don't ship worldwide then its very good business to have a group buy have a lot of stock as its getting business it most likely would not have gotten if they only supplied customers within there limit of not shipping worldwide


The basic facts are most customers will want the expense of ordering be the cheapest option if that's possible and that is why me and others are wondering why there is so many different group buys making it very hard to order direct from a company that ships worldwide

I don't blame any person running a group buy its not their fault
The fault is with NovaMedia allowing to much stock been allocated to group buys instead of having majority of the international stock be ordered online with their shop by customers who want the best value for their money

 

[apsmith21]

Edit: Hardly surprising they put the GB FEE UP FROM $1 to $2 when they know how many of these Asian releases they will shift. It's a licence to print money!

If you knew how much it costs to run the server and the forum on a monthly basis you would know that we had to recently apply for a license to print money.

Now, having said that, let's not attack the forum please.

 

[frankfish44]

ordering directly from nova:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping) = $55.

GB:
$45 (steelbook) + $10 (shipping to GB host) + $4 HDN fee + $4 GB host fee + estimated $10 customs fee + estimated $12 shipping to my place + $5 paypal fee = $85.

my numbers are not way off. maybe some of these steels will fetch even higher prices at the bay, but $30 difference on a single steelbook, sorry, THAT's what's way off here.

These numbers are laughable to be honest. Perhaps you have never been part of a HDN group buy. The difference shipping outside the U.S. will always carry costs. My costs for my lenticular for this GB was around $53 total shipped to me in the U.S. There are many cost saving features along the way passed on to the group buy members.

 

[UpsetSmiley]

Some avid collectors are getting an earful for joining GBs but maybe because they fear not being able to secure a copy? It's understandable and even justifiable as this being a Marvel movie, scalpers will be champing at the bit. Just check eBay and any given opportunity to sell Marvel at at a mark-up is taken.

With so many versions it's becoming harder and harder every day to keep an up-to-date Marvel collection. I mean four versions of one movie from one retailer , at least one of 'em should've been a 1/4 slip. Instead of the hawk-eye slip maybe?

 

[apsmith21]

Just a general statement, and I'm only speaking for myself here - this is the last I'll mention on this subject. I knew Avengers would be a hot button subject from Nova, in seeing some recent feedback.

In many of my group buys, I'm often limiting to 1 per member, and sometimes asking members I've never worked with before to show that they did not have an existing order with the retailer. I have traditionally done my best to be fair in the awarding the chance to buy any edition that I get in hand and that the folks asking for a copy really do need my help.

I do not personally get any funds for my time or effort on any group buy. Any fee paid goes directly to the sites account. You know that if you'e worked with me before.

As an example, I spent five hours on Friday night packing up Interstellar editions to ship to members here, and that was after an 8 hour work day. I'm not asking anyone to mimic my example, but I've been in the steelbook hobby since 2009 and was running group buys on blu-ray forums first and then here since 2010. It takes a lot of work to do these on a daily basis, and I've probably surprised a few folks since I haven't burned out yet. lol

My point of the story is NOT to say..."oh woe is Andy", but rather saying...you guys are really picking on the wrong subject here.

We know that Nova sells to resellers in bulk. And we know that those editions go right to e-bay, and are not transparent in their costs at all, making the example from @severo more feasible.

If I was out to make money, I would just order a bunch of copies from Nova and put them up at high cost...

But then you guys attack the group buy system, for the small per item fee, when other folks are making funds hand over fist and group buy hosts are on here are really asking for a very tiny amount of compensation for their work.

I don't get it.

 

[frankfish44]

I really am going to think about the costs incurred using GB's here at HDN. I've never used one before as I usually just order direct but I felt a GB might be a good idea for the Avengers as not to miss it. Now I'm thinking it might not be such a good idea as I can no way afford all those fees for this, that and the other. Imagine the final cost of all four variants via GB it would be astronomical. That then puts thoughts into my mind as to wether or not I should bother at all even trying direct. Too many variants coming out with every title released it's absurd.

Edit: Hardly surprising they put the GB FEE UP FROM $1 to $2 when they know how many of these Asian releases they will shift. It's a licence to print money!

It makes no sense to criticise a process you have never been part of. $2 is not really an astronomical figure for the services you receive. Perhaps join a HDN sponsored group buy before passing judgement based on comments made by others who were not part of it. Even the blufans GB prices are comparable to those that were ran by Kevin before his departure from here. Minimal fee goes back into the same forum everyone here visits on a daily / weekly basis.

 

[merowinger]

My costs for John Wick. Let's use your $45 to start so things are comparable.

$3.80 shipping per edition to me.
$3 HDN fee
$0 host fee
No customs fee
Shipping for 1 edition to Europe or UK ($16 for the heavier Nova editions, normally $13.41)
Insurance $1.30
Box and packing supplies are usually $1.50

Total, $70.60

And oh, by the way, I'm not running a GB on here for Avengers! More copies for all you folks that are upset and bemoan the fact that I take them all!

Thanks for the feedback though.

EDIT - you'll note our non-staff HDN assessed fees have been raised, the first time since 2011, to $2 per edition sold. It has historically only been $1.

Thats for your GB`s.
But John is in germany ... don't forget that.
Now you can add to your 70,60USD + 19% Import sales tax + 3,5% Customs fee`s. But shipping is much less, can't believe they ship all separately

 

[apsmith21]

Thats for your GB`s.
But John is germany ... don't forget that.
Now you can add to your 70,60USD + 19% Import sales tax + 3,5% Customs fee`s. But shipping is much less, can't believe they ship all separately

Is he? I was completely unaware.

We really should move this conversation elsewhere, to another thread.

 

[jimmyv]

for me in usa, my total "to my doorstep" GB cost for all 3 editions of john wick was $144. that's only like $20 more total than if i ordered direct through NM. also, that's only $48 per edition.

$70? $85? wth