How many people open their Steelbooks when they buy them or do you just leave them sealed.
So far i have 13 Steelbooks and have opened 3 i opened Angels and Demons,Inglorious Bastards and District 9.
I fear if i open my pirates and nightmare before christmas ones i will have to modify them to be able to put the discs in and not have them in a sleeve
It's like if I had a Terminator 2.0, I would keep it sealed for collectibilities sake. You might want to open it to see the Steelbook underneath, but some people just have differing opinions on how they want their collection to be.
edit: My death of Superman first edition has a black plastic covering on it, and I'm not going to be opening that one anytime soon, I can't see what's inside, but that's why I bought a 3rd or 4th printing to read it.
It's like if I had a Terminator 2.0, I would keep it sealed for collectibilities sake. You might want to open it to see the Steelbook underneath, but some people just have differing opinions on how they want their collection to be.
Of course you would due to it's perceived rarity and value. I'm not saying why would you keep a limited edition sealed or why would you keep a Steelbook sealed. I am saying: Why would you buy a Steelbook that you will never actually see? You may aswell buy an amaray with a slipcover or a digipack. It simply doesn't make sense to me.
The whole point of Steelbooks is the packaging, not the disc inside so it's completely different.
Of course you would due to it's perceived rarity and value. I'm not saying why would you keep a limited edition sealed or why would you keep a Steelbook sealed. I am saying: Why would you buy a Steelbook that you will never actually see? You may aswell buy an amaray with a slipcover or a digipack. It simply doesn't make sense to me.
Terminator 2.0 has a slipcover. Same as this Kimchi release. I'm keeping them both sealed for the same reason. That's all I'm trying to say. I'm really not sure what we're discussing at this point now. It's probably just one of those 'agree to disagree' points.
I am saying: Why would you buy a Steelbook that you will never actually see? You may aswell buy an amaray with a slipcover or a digipack. It simply doesn't make sense to me.
It's a strange one for some poeple to get their heads around, but I always say it doesn't have to make sense in order for it to be right.
I collect Steelbooks and have done for years. I have only ever opened 2 myself though (of course some have come to me open too). Until about a year ago I had almost every UK Steelbook because I am a completist. Then the quantity went up and quality didn't impress me in many instances so I decided to focus on collecting certain retailer exclusives instead. And they will still remain sealed.
So I now collect Kimchi exclusive Steelbooks (among others) and keep them sealed. No exceptions. So if Kimchi put a full slip on then it stays sealed with a full slip and I don't see the Steelbook. But my Kimchi collection is complete and I am happy.
It's a strange one for some poeple to get their heads around, but I always say it doesn't have to make sense in order for it to be right.
I collect Steelbooks and have done for years. I have only ever opened 2 myself though (of course some have come to me open too). Until about a year ago I had almost every UK Steelbook because I am a completist. Then the quantity went up and quality didn't impress me in many instances so I decided to focus on collecting certain retailer exclusives instead. And they will still remain sealed.
So I now collect Kimchi exclusive Steelbooks (among others) and keep them sealed. No exceptions. So if Kimchi put a full slip on then it stays sealed with a full slip and I don't see the Steelbook. But my Kimchi collection is complete and I am happy.
It's a strange one for some poeple to get their heads around, but I always say it doesn't have to make sense in order for it to be right.
I collect Steelbooks and have done for years. I have only ever opened 2 myself though (of course some have come to me open too). Until about a year ago I had almost every UK Steelbook because I am a completist. Then the quantity went up and quality didn't impress me in many instances so I decided to focus on collecting certain retailer exclusives instead. And they will still remain sealed.
So I now collect Kimchi exclusive Steelbooks (among others) and keep them sealed. No exceptions. So if Kimchi put a full slip on then it stays sealed with a full slip and I don't see the Steelbook. But my Kimchi collection is complete and I am happy.
Exactly! I always say to each his/her own, and I don't bother or worry myself with what someone else may do with their money/collection.
I open a decent percentage of mine, but all of my low print run and numbered exclusives shall remain sealed. For example, I will not open my Kimchi or BF as well as a handful of others. I can still enjoy the steel and/or slips fine with them being sealed. That's the great thing about Polypropylene being clear.
You guys must have amazing will power to keep some of them sealed. Even if I had rules of keeping certain retailers sealed, I could not possibly have kept Tangled Kimchi or Oz Blufans sealed, those suckers were being undressed.
It's a strange one for some poeple to get their heads around, but I always say it doesn't have to make sense in order for it to be right.
I collect Steelbooks and have done for years. I have only ever opened 2 myself though (of course some have come to me open too). Until about a year ago I had almost every UK Steelbook because I am a completist. Then the quantity went up and quality didn't impress me in many instances so I decided to focus on collecting certain retailer exclusives instead. And they will still remain sealed.
So I now collect Kimchi exclusive Steelbooks (among others) and keep them sealed. No exceptions. So if Kimchi put a full slip on then it stays sealed with a full slip and I don't see the Steelbook. But my Kimchi collection is complete and I am happy.
Answering to the effect of 'to each to his own' is a cop out in my opinion. I am not saying you have to justify why you collect in the manner that you do, I am just interested to know why the Kimchi version of Thor: The Dark World is so popular. Is it the print run that is making it so desirable for many? It's the only reason I can think why someone would purchase it over other editions (BB/FS and Blufans) which look like better options at the moment. Let's be honest the Steelbook is pants and Kimchi have acknowledged this by producing a slipcover that hides all of the Steelbook artwork. I guess that many will consider that a good thing, but I really don't see the point in buying an edition of a Steelbook and keeping it sealed meaning you can't actually see it. Just to clarify (again), i'm not saying why are you keeping Steelbooks sealed, I totally get that and I've even been tempted to do so myself in the past.
Ha. I actually like full slips and prefer them to quarter slips. As I open my Steelbooks, it makes more sense to me to have a full slip that can be displayed if desired. If you're going to keep your Steelbooks sealed, then I agree with you that the quarter slips are the best option.
Answering to the effect of 'to each to his own' is a cop out in my opinion. I am not saying you have to justify why you collect in the manner that you do, I am just interested to know why the Kimchi version of Thor: The Dark World is so popular. Is it the print run that is making it so desirable for many? It's the only reason I can think why someone would purchase it over other editions (BB/FS and Blufans) which look like better options at the moment. Let's be honest the Steelbook is pants and Kimchi have acknowledged this by producing a slipcover that hides all of the Steelbook artwork. I guess that many will consider that a good thing, but I really don't see the point in buying an edition of a Steelbook and keeping it sealed meaning you can't actually see it. Just to clarify (again), i'm not saying why are you keeping Steelbooks sealed, I totally get that and I've even been tempted to do so myself in the past.
I don't feel I answered to that 'each to his own' tune bud, I said it doesn't have to make sense. To me that is different. I didn't hold back with my further explanation so wouldn't class it as a cop out either. Either way, no-one really owes you an answer so I'll throw the question back to you and ask 'What does it really matter?'
I can see a lot of 'turds' (quoting you from the Thor 2 thread) in peoples collections but I'd never think to comment on them because they had a desire each time they were released to own that specific version of that title. If someone asked 'Please can you explain the rationale behind each title which you own so that we can all get a better understanding of who you are?' (even if it wasn't asked in so many words but suggestively as you tend to do) then I doubt you would respond positively to them. At least my first answer to your question attempted this. Maybe I should have also said 'open your mind up to other possibilities' or 'don't be so narrow minded - it doesn't suit your negativity!'
I did give you an explanation already why I am getting this and it ties in to why I keep them sealed, even if you didn't ask me that. I told you I was a completist and that means I would like this kimchi version of Thor 2 in order to complete my kimchi Steelbook collection, which to date is as complete as it can be. The low print run helps as I like to collect low print runs and retailer exclusive sets / pairs too.
To clarify my way of thinking and give more insight - Kimchi Thor 2 ticks the low print run box, the retailer exclusive sets / pairs box, the kimchi exclusive comletist box, the Marvel box, the 'Yes! I managed to get one...' box, and so on.
I can afford to buy it without impacting on my life in any way so have no concerns about the price and I won't regret it as I haven't bought it to make profit. If I come to lose love for them on my shelf then I will sell for the going rate and if that means making money then I can afford to buy food and if it sells for a loss I can still afford to buy food. I only bought one of each so that anyone else who wanted one could stand a better chance of owning it.
And I also have other Thor 2's on my want list and not one will be opened and some may be the same Steel underneath. All because it makes me happy. Not sure if those are the same reasons as everyone else who went for this but I expect there are a few who are in a similar position.
So just to summarise... 'Hi, my name is Luke, and I'm a Steeloholic. Like all of you here I have a weakness which forced me to turn to Steels to ease my pains. I have no desire to kick my habit just yet so please come and join me to take things to the extreme and bathe and be merry in all things metal'
Louis, I got a lot of respect for you on here and I don't want us to piss each other off over a Steelbook which one of us wants and another doesn't care for. Let's move on from this thread and I hope we can still enjoy some banter elsewhere on the forum
My only quirk/question that mostly applies to some collectors and those who prefer to keep them sealed (felt like this was the most appropriate thread), how do you know it's mint? (To those I keep seeing "sealed and mint" or "sealed mint" from). At least comics don't have giant j-cards on them, so you can actually claim such... but steelbooks? In my experience, if it's an older release, it's more prone to being damaged if there's still a j-card on it... Wouldn't "sealed and most likely be damaged" be a better way to describe them? Anyway, I collect other things (well used to) and always found what people believed to be mint incredibly misleading and too loosely used around here... Hopefully we can change the terminology to "sealed and no visible damage"... Or maybe even create a thread explaining what "mint" actually means with proper grading.
I think out of all steels I own (nearing 200 now), 10% or lower from what I opened could actually be claimed as mint. So I just find it hard to believe seeing sellers with 50+ mint steels (either opened or sealed) in their trade threads when they're most likely near mint, at best.
My only quirk/question that mostly applies to some collectors and those who prefer to keep them sealed (felt like this was the most appropriate thread), how do you know it's mint? (To those I keep seeing "sealed and mint" or "sealed mint" from). At least comics don't have giant j-cards on them, so you can actually claim such... but steelbooks? In my experience, if it's an older release, it's more prone to being damaged if there's still a j-card on it... Wouldn't "sealed and most likely be damaged" be a better way to describe them? Anyway, I collect other things (well used to) and always found what people believed to be mint incredibly misleading and too loosely used around here... Hopefully we can change the terminology to "sealed and no visible damage"... Or maybe even create a thread explaining what "mint" actually means with proper grading.
I think out of all steels I own (nearing 200 now), 10% or lower from what I opened could actually be claimed as mint. So I just find it hard to believe seeing sellers with 50+ mint steels (either opened or sealed) in their trade threads when they're most likely near mint, at best.
That possibly applies to absolutely everything else, no? There's no 100% way to be sure that the steel is truly 'mint', but those are the same chances you have when buying from a store. Why? Because you have the same chances of finding defects after opening it, specially on Steelbooks where you can't see behind the covers or j card. It's a gamble. Plus putting a description with a backhand comment is like sabotaging your own sales, don't you think?
When I sold my collection, I always described that it was new, but I was unable to see behind the jcard. I had many 'mints' and described those as such, but once opened they were no longer my problem, not that I ever had a complaint. Similar to retail stores, when they run out, once sold and it was opened it was someone else's problem unless u want to be empty handed. Harsh but it is what it is. You don't go to a car dealership and they tell you the car is new but probably tons of problems under the hood, right? Lol
In a perfect world we would be able to afford two copies of each steel. One to open and one to keep sealed, but that isn't realistic for most.
I keep my steelbooks sealed because of how much the value decreases on most steels, especially the rare ones when you open them. If I want to watch the movie I will buy the amaray. If I ever want to know what the back art or inside art looks like, well that is one of the many reasons I love HDN.
Random question but it kind of relates, does the glue or tape that holds the j card on do damage to a steel over time as it dries? I don't know but if so than open would be the way to go to perseve it as mint.
Random question but it kind of relates, does the glue or tape that holds the j card on do damage to a steel over time as it dries? I don't know but if so than open would be the way to go to perseve it as mint.
I think the glue would cause damage eventually. It might discolor or completely remove the paint where the glue was applied if you tried to remove it in many years time.
That possibly applies to absolutely everything else, no? There's no 100% way to be sure that the steel is truly 'mint', but those are the same chances you have when buying from a store. Why? Because you have the same chances of finding defects after opening it, specially on Steelbooks where you can't see behind the covers or j card. It's a gamble. Plus putting a description with a backhand comment is like sabotaging your own sales, don't you think?
When I sold my collection, I always described that it was new, but I was unable to see behind the jcard. I had many 'mints' and described those as such, but once opened they were no longer my problem, not that I ever had a complaint. Similar to retail stores, when they run out, once sold and it was opened it was someone else's problem unless u want to be empty handed. Harsh but it is what it is. You don't go to a car dealership and they tell you the car is new but probably tons of problems under the hood, right? Lol
Yeah but these aren't cars we are talking about, they're collectibles. When comparing them to comic books, you can actually see the condition and make a claim that it's mint. Whereas with a sealed steelbook, you can only sort of see half of it... kind of. Stores don't claim to be selling you mint condition steelbooks, they just claim them to be as new. Sealed/new and mint, are completely different, which is the point I was trying to make.
Also, when you go to a car dealership, you're allowed to inspect what's underneath the hood before buying it. And if something were to happen with the engine, you'd be able to go back and tell them they sold you a faulty car... whereas, a steelbook, you're stuck with whatever damages are underneath... at least in Canada.
When you're dealing with other collectibles that use the term 'mint', they're graded on a scale of 10. http://www.cgccomics.com/grading/grading.asp Saying a steelbook is mint (or perfect, basically) just because it's still sealed and you can't see anything underneath, is using the term 'mint' too loosely...
Basically, my question to you is, how do you grade something you can't see?
My only quirk/question that mostly applies to some collectors and those who prefer to keep them sealed (felt like this was the most appropriate thread), how do you know it's mint? (To those I keep seeing "sealed and mint" or "sealed mint" from). At least comics don't have giant j-cards on them, so you can actually claim such... but steelbooks? In my experience, if it's an older release, it's more prone to being damaged if there's still a j-card on it... Wouldn't "sealed and most likely be damaged" be a better way to describe them? Anyway, I collect other things (well used to) and always found what people believed to be mint incredibly misleading and too loosely used around here... Hopefully we can change the terminology to "sealed and no visible damage"... Or maybe even create a thread explaining what "mint" actually means with proper grading.
I think out of all steels I own (nearing 200 now), 10% or lower from what I opened could actually be claimed as mint. So I just find it hard to believe seeing sellers with 50+ mint steels (either opened or sealed) in their trade threads when they're most likely near mint, at best.
You're a glass half empty kind of guy, aren't you.
Steelbooks and comics are packaged differently. So you can't compare them completely. A steelbook is almost always covered by a j-card which hides it's back cover. The only way I have of checking if it's mint behind the j-card is to open it and by doing so de-valuing it. Instead of assuming the worst which you were suggesting we as a community should do, I assume that it's mint as it's fresh off the press.
I do agree that saying a steelbook is new and sealed is better than claiming that it's mint but at the same time, what I can see is mint and my glass is half full so claiming it's mint isn't exactly wrong imo.
I open all of my Steelbooks except for duplicates. I got 3 into darkness Walmart villain ship box sets, target JLW SB, and a zavvi LATT SB sealed mint but all spares copies. I have around 150 opened Steelbooks...
I open all the Steelbooks to confirm the condition. I've opened many a Steelbook and found dings dents and scratches on so many times that I'm paranoid and OCD now
I open them all up, especially love in- store pick ups and I have exchanged them so many times before I'm sorry to say to all the "Sealed" collectors.
"Sealed" collectors can't really admire the SB or know if its truly mint IMO
