Spring - Love Is A Monster (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Steelarchive-exclusive #001) [Germany]

[monsterzebra]

Release date: November 6, 2015
Purchase link: SteelArchive - SOLD OUT
Price: €34.95
Group buy: @merowinger

Spoiler

Hi folks,

I'm glad to be allowed to introduce the first exclusive edition of an upcoming german retailer called "Steelarchive".

http://www.steelarchive-shop.com/index.php

Features:
- Full-Slip
- Limited to 100 copies (1 copy per customer)
- Numbered (with card)
+ other goodies (TBA)

Artwork (full-slip):
Front:

Back:

Artwork poll (ended):

Spoiler: Artwork poll - ended

Please cast your vote for one of the following artworks in the poll (and/or comment which one you prefer).

"Cover A (approved by Koch Media)"]

"Cover B (approved by Koch Media)"]

 

[IRON MAN]

This is the collector talking not the mod:

First, a small detail out of the way: I didn't bother going for this steel cos I don't just buy pretty packages, the movie has to mean something to me. So I have no vested interest whether the print run is increased or not but even if I was interested in the steelbook, I'd still feel & say the same. With that out of the way, I believe:

- It's bad business practice to increase the print run to please some who missed out. A glitch happened causing the overselling, stuff like that happens all the time, even with well established companies, software isn't perfect and neither are the people programming it. We miss out on other titles with larger print runs and we move on, it's not the end of the world. It's all part of the game.

- If SA were to increase the print run and show that they're willing to bend the rules a bit, then mark my words, nothing will satisfy the collectors on future releases - who happen to miss out - until SA does the same again and again. So doing it now will set a bad precedent and will only encourage the often irrational sense of entitlement. Just cos another retailer did it in the past, it doesn't mean that's advised and don't get me started about the practices of that other retailer.

- I commend @DuckDogers for being so transparent with what has been happening. He's offered an apology and is willing to work with the community to find a solution that pleases everyone most, which is more than most other "premium" retailers have done in the past, but...

- ...If SA really wants to make it up to those 18 or so who feel they have been cheated out of their copy, the best course of action is to offer them a discount code to be used on future purchases from SA's online store.

 

[StifflersDad]

I agree with @AlienKing

Even though it's very honourable to increase the print run, it feels kinda weird.

This release was set to 100 copies from the beginning. Knowing it's a risk, but also a way to make people want this release. So it's a gamble which Steelarchive made. And now because of a plugin failure, you want to increase the print run?

That's just bollocks. For me, who greatfully secured a copy through the painful gb ;-), I love the fact that the release is part of 1 out of 100 copies.

I have no intention in selling it, because I'm interested in the movie and the fact of it being 1 out of 100 makes it even more 'nicer' to have. (sorry for those who got left out).

But even if I didn't secure a copy twice (through gb and website), I would stick to my opinion of keeping the initial print run. That's what you communicated from the start.

Sorry for those which got their orders cancelled, but let this be a valuable lesson.

- you cannot please everyone, but you shine in trying so (keep up the good work)
- websites sometimes do weird stuff (even PlainArchive had hickups)
- always stick to what you communicate at first
- now k you know there is a demand, increase your next release with certainty. ;-)

Good luck in your adventure and hobby which is your business.

Whatever you do, consider the pro's and cons.

For a fact, I never got anything from other websites which failed in anyway during live time, so I missed out on a few. (kimchi Thor, kimchi rush, zdt PlainArchive, Nova big hero 6)

They never increased the print run, even though many missed out. I know printing some paper and having it factory sealed ain't a big deal, but still..... Just sayin'

Good luck... ;-)

How does it feel to be wrong.

 

[nefilim]

Thank you very much.

So to all those people spouting nonsense print run has been increased previously from what was originally announced

...so if novamedia did it once (stupid desicion) it's ok others to do too... weird logic IMO

...why is their/my opinion nonsence, but your's isn't...

...wonder how would you feel IF you got one...

 

[StifflersDad]

...so if novamedia did it once (stupid desicion) it's ok others to do too... weird logic IMO

...why is their/my opinion nonsence, but your's isn't...

...wonder how would you feel IF you got one...

The "nonsense" I was referring to was comments to the effect that the print run had never been increased by any retailers. Which has just been proved wrong.

 

[nefilim]

The "nonsense" I was referring to was comments to the effect that the print run had never been increased by any retailers. Which has just been proved wrong.

OK my bad. but if it only done once. it is rare in the history of numbered edtions. and does not make it ok.

but let's keep our shirts on. it's just a blu-ray release we're talking about. once upon a time I had to get certain dvd releases (very limited) now they are going cheap. actually few minutes ago sold one (argento's double dvd opera v.2 - numered)

 

[Marco86]

This is the collector talking not the mod:

First, a small detail out of the way: I didn't bother going for this steel cos I don't just buy pretty packages, the movie has to mean something to me. So I have no vested interest whether the print run is increased or not but even if I was interested in the steelbook, I'd still feel & say the same. With that out of the way, I believe:

- It's bad business practice to increase the print run to please some who missed out. A glitch happened causing the overselling, stuff like that happens all the time, even with well established companies, software isn't perfect and neither are the people programming it. We miss out on other titles with larger print runs and we move on, it's not the end of the world. It's all part of the game.

- If SA were to increase the print run and show that they're willing to bend the rules a bit, then mark my words, nothing will satisfy the collectors on future releases - who happen to miss out - until SA does the same again and again. So doing it now will set a bad precedent and will only encourage the often irrational sense of entitlement. Just cos another retailer did it in the past, it doesn't mean that's advised and don't get me started about the practices of that other retailer.

- I commend @DuckDogers for being so transparent with what has been happening. He's offered an apology and is willing to work with the community to find a solution that pleases everyone most, which is more than most other "premium" retailers have done in the past, but...

- ...If SA really wants to make it up to those 18 or so who feel they have been cheated out of their copy, the best course of action is to offer them a discount code to be used on future purchases from SA's online store.

Agreed 100%

 

[LeonD]

I had order 20015 and it got cancelled, anyone know what logic they're using when it comes to these cancellations?

 

[C.C. 95]

OK my bad. but if it only done once. it is rare in the history of numbered edtions. and does not make it ok.

but let's keep our shirts on. it's just a blu-ray release we're talking about. once upon a time I had to get certain dvd releases (very limited) now they are going cheap. actually few minutes ago sold one (argento's double dvd opera v.2 - numered)

It's a limited edition of a new company's first release- that is why people are coveting it. (Plain Melancholia...same deal). I don't care about exclusivity or low number stuff, so that rationale is beyond me.

 

[AnubisNefer]

This is the collector talking not the mod:

First, a small detail out of the way: I didn't bother going for this steel cos I don't just buy pretty packages, the movie has to mean something to me. So I have no vested interest whether the print run is increased or not but even if I was interested in the steelbook, I'd still feel & say the same. With that out of the way, I believe:

- It's bad business practice to increase the print run to please some who missed out. A glitch happened causing the overselling, stuff like that happens all the time, even with well established companies, software isn't perfect and neither are the people programming it. We miss out on other titles with larger print runs and we move on, it's not the end of the world. It's all part of the game.

- If SA were to increase the print run and show that they're willing to bend the rules a bit, then mark my words, nothing will satisfy the collectors on future releases - who happen to miss out - until SA does the same again and again. So doing it now will set a bad precedent and will only encourage the often irrational sense of entitlement. Just cos another retailer did it in the past, it doesn't mean that's advised and don't get me started about the practices of that other retailer.

- I commend @DuckDogers for being so transparent with what has been happening. He's offered an apology and is willing to work with the community to find a solution that pleases everyone most, which is more than most other "premium" retailers have done in the past, but...

- ...If SA really wants to make it up to those 18 or so who feel they have been cheated out of their copy, the best course of action is to offer them a discount code to be used on future purchases from SA's online store.

Well put and said. Couldn't have said it better.

And I'm just not saying this cause I secured one. Thank you.

 

[nefilim]

It's a limited edition of a new company's first release- that is why people are coveting it. (Plain Melancholia...same deal). I don't care about exclusivity or low number stuff, so that rationale is beyond me.

...and in this case movie is pretty good too. but melancholia is better.

 

[AnubisNefer]

I had order 20015 and it got cancelled, anyone know what logic they're using when it comes to these cancellations?

I think it has to do with the time you paid and got fully through the checkout system. The Order number is made by the website cm's, but checkout time is different.

So I think they went with payment time.

 

[nefilim]

I had order 20015 and it got cancelled, anyone know what logic they're using when it comes to these cancellations?

https://www.random.org/





but truly, weird... ?

 

[LeonD]

https://www.random.org/





but truly, weird... ?

I know right, flat out missing it would have been ok, getting it and having my order cancelled because i was in the last 18 would have sucked, but getting one of the lowest order numbers and still having it cancelled just amazes me. Maybe SteelArchive just hate me? lol

 

[nefilim]

I know right, flat out missing it would have been ok, getting it and having my order cancelled because i was in the last 18 would have sucked, but getting one of the lowest order numbers and still having it cancelled just amazes me. Maybe SteelArchive just hate me? lol

these things do suck. I once tried to order very very limited cd with signature. had it in my basket and suddenly forgot my password. did the usual 'send-my-pass-to-this-email' got the pass and logged in...and voila - basket was empty and cd sold out.

made my day.

lol.

 

[LeonD]

I think it has to do with the time you paid and got fully through the checkout system. The Order number is made by the website cm's, but checkout time is different.

So I think they went with payment time.

I was pretty rapid, as you can see on my email the order time was 8:00 pm.

The thing to do is have un-numbered editions for replacements / damaged in transit items like Plain do.

This is all well and good until a steelbook arrives damaged and they can't offer an exchange. Even on a 100 run you need to have a contingency plan.



Paypal also shows 19:00 [time zone difference]

 

[LeonD]

How many seconds though? There are seconds shown after the 19:00 on the PayPal email.
I'd imagine everyone's order email (from the store) shows 8pm.

19:00:36

I'm not going to go on about it anymore as it's just negativity.

I'll grab the regular blu-ray

 

[metal hunter]

To my point of view the print run should only be increased up to 120 to ensure copies for everyone who succeeded in ordering one in the first place.

 

[MrBMT]

To my point of view the print run should only be increased up to 120 to ensure copies for everyone who succeeded in ordering one in the first place.

Yeah I suggested that earlier, but many people don't like the idea of the print run being increased. We'll just have to wait and see what Steel Archive come back with.

 

[Chenhao]

This is the collector talking not the mod:

First, a small detail out of the way: I didn't bother going for this steel cos I don't just buy pretty packages, the movie has to mean something to me. So I have no vested interest whether the print run is increased or not but even if I was interested in the steelbook, I'd still feel & say the same. With that out of the way, I believe:

- It's bad business practice to increase the print run to please some who missed out. A glitch happened causing the overselling, stuff like that happens all the time, even with well established companies, software isn't perfect and neither are the people programming it. We miss out on other titles with larger print runs and we move on, it's not the end of the world. It's all part of the game.

- If SA were to increase the print run and show that they're willing to bend the rules a bit, then mark my words, nothing will satisfy the collectors on future releases - who happen to miss out - until SA does the same again and again. So doing it now will set a bad precedent and will only encourage the often irrational sense of entitlement. Just cos another retailer did it in the past, it doesn't mean that's advised and don't get me started about the practices of that other retailer.

- I commend @DuckDogers for being so transparent with what has been happening. He's offered an apology and is willing to work with the community to find a solution that pleases everyone most, which is more than most other "premium" retailers have done in the past, but...

- ...If SA really wants to make it up to those 18 or so who feel they have been cheated out of their copy, the best course of action is to offer them a discount code to be used on future purchases from SA's online store.

Best post of the year.

 

[IRON MAN]

Best post of the year.

Should I talk more often?