Thor (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]

[Scottyrnumber]

Release Date: October 28, 2013
Purchase link: Thor
Price: £15.99 Sold out!
Notes: Debossed border, embossed title, matter finish, inside artwork, 1-disc edition

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[digitalbabe]

Hey guys, please no trading in the movie threads. Thanks.

Very interesting comments, guys-After seeing Steelbooks come and go in various iterations, and from 1000's of posts on this forum over the years, everyone defines 'value' completely differently. There are plenty of people who simply prefer some kind of special edition or Steelbook, vs. a regular Amaray on release day or afterwards, and couldn't care less about appreciation in the future or reselling at a higher cost. If it rises it rises.

Others hunt down, and stash multiple copies, specifically, based on predicted hype, and run businesses or larger trading operations-and that's their set of parameters and prerogative to do so. Those that are willing to pay whatever price will then end up buying some of those copies, because they missed the boat on release day, or for some strange reason suddenly the Steelbook is valuable than it was before (no re-release), some edition that was dug up with less than xxx made becomes known, etc etc. And all shades of this spectrum are represented at HDN.

It seems to be a completely individual choice as far as what constitutes 'value' of anything. There is $ value, sentimental value, and everything in between. If Zavvi wants to release Thor again, with different artwork, there will always be those who 'value' the first Thor more because it was the first, and is now OOP. And others,either new to the hobby, or who just don't care if a Steelbook rises in value (they have completely different priorities, and see all of this as a casual hobby, but still consider themselves 'collectors' of Steels, to their own defined, degree, and within their means) will just enjoy their movies.

Those are not not resellers or traders and will not care that it is getting re-released at all. People join this hobby every day-and some will buy the $9.99 over the $300 version of whatever, any day. 'Collector' can be defined in numerous ways as well. I could 'collect' things that are 'cheap', or 'high-end' collectibles. But in the end, what matters is what the individual value is that the person assigns to that object.Of course the third party market responds based on supply and demand.

And for those who forked over sizable amount of their funds and consider themselves collectors of high end or rare Steels, then an exact 'reprint' is understandably upsetting, because of the expectation that an item was to be 'limited to x' and never available again, and their own definition of what constitutes a 'valuable' item.

But for every group of members who thinks x is a 'grail', another person opens the $10 or $20 version, and watches the movie and just enjoys the non Amaray-case, or doesn't like a title at all, and moves on. We have fans of Steels and other Limited Eds on this forum that span dozens of 'shades of gray' and can be on any end of any spectrum they, themselves define.

 

[stevo]

exactly these are films and are meant to be watched and enjoyed !

Thats true, it is meant to be watched. But I would suggest that if you're all about watching the film, get the regular version, and not the steelbook. There is always a $5-$10 premium charged for steelbook packaging. You'll save money that way, again, it makes good business sense. I'm of the opinion that in steelbook collecting, it is 100% about the packaging, and 0% about the movie, for reasons already stated. Same reason why, when the next format comes into play, it will not effect the value of current steels. All about the packaging my friend.

In regard to DB's post above. Sorry my mistake. But in all seriousness, I don't think anyone would have accepted that trade lol. Its was to prove a point more than anything. I choose to use monetary value because its more objective. It is measureable and not subjective due to opinions. You think your mom makes the best pies, I think my mom does. Who's right who's wrong? I can't measure emotional attachments, so I don't try to. It's not the better way, it's the most objective way.

 

[tenderheartbear]

Thats true, it is meant to be watched. But I would suggest that if you're all about watching the film, get the regular version, and not the steelbook. There is always a $5-$10 premium charged for steelbook packaging. You'll save money that way, again, it makes good business sense. I'm of the opinion that in steelbook collecting, it is 100% about the packaging, and 0% about the movie, for reasons already stated. Same reason why, when the next format comes into play, it will not effect the value of current steels. All about the packaging my friend.

I wouldn't say it's 0% about the movie in a lot of cases.

Sure, some people by any old steelbook regardless of what movie is inside it. I only buy movies I want to own and enjoy more than once. I will buy the steelbook version if it exists, but I won't buy a steelbook of a movie I don't want.

I have ordered for example, Beverly Hills Cop in a steelbook. I won't order II or III regardless of any super packaging they're put in.

 

[digitalbabe]

I choose to use monetary value because its more objective. It is measureable and not subjective due to opinions. You think your mom makes the best pies, I think my mom does. Who's right who's wrong? I can't measure emotional attachments, so I don't try to. It's not the better way, it's the most objective way.

Yes, exactly, and hopefully with Steelbooks old and new, our community has plenty of options to form attachments for all kind of reasons based on their tastes

 

[moonbucket]

I buy the steelbook version of movies if it's a favourite movie and I want it to be a special part of the collection.

I open and watch them. It's nice to know some of the steelies are rare, makes having them a bit more special but I won't part with them. The packaging is an added bonus to a favourite movie first and foremost.

I do, however, fully understand people who like to "collect" and that is the over-riding driver of their collecting. I'm glad that the FS Iron Man did not depreciate despite the Play release. And I do get that collecting twitch/urge - whilst I try not to double-dip after being burned over a variety of formats of re-releases etc (we've all been there eh) it is taking a massive amount of willpower not to re-buy ALL the Batman movies that are coming out in steelbook form...

 

[dirtyoak]

Thats true, it is meant to be watched. But I would suggest that if you're all about watching the film, get the regular version, and not the steelbook. There is always a $5-$10 premium charged for steelbook packaging. You'll save money that way, again, it makes good business sense. I'm of the opinion that in steelbook collecting, it is 100% about the packaging, and 0% about the movie, for reasons already stated. Same reason why, when the next format comes into play, it will not effect the value of current steels. All about the packaging my friend.

In regard to DB's post above. Sorry my mistake. But in all seriousness, I don't think anyone would have accepted that trade lol. Its was to prove a point more than anything. I choose to use monetary value because its more objective. It is measureable and not subjective due to opinions. You think your mom makes the best pies, I think my mom does. Who's right who's wrong? I can't measure emotional attachments, so I don't try to. It's not the better way, it's the most objective way.

It seems to me that you're looking at collecting like a business and I would think that's not how most collector's view their hobby.

 

[alvinhwang21]

i bet there will be a third release of the first thor when dark worlds comes around

 

[blumark007]

Can't really understand that comment about 0% about the movie. For me it's all about the movie say 90% and 10% because I like steel packaging and the decent art. Seems like some people are running a business but living in denial.

And digitalis comment

because of the expectation that an item was to be 'limited to x' and never available again, and their own definition of what constitutes a 'valuable' item.

I think that's where some people go wrong because it was never ever agreed that there would be no re releases and so expectations fall short.

You should never expect a steelbook to not be re released. As long as there's a few quid to be made they will be re released and released again.

And for Stevo who thinks that when the next format comes along blu ray steelbooks will still be worth something, just take a look at DVD steels my friend, you are in for a big surprise. I'm not saying that will be anytime soon but your living in dreamland.

That's my thoughts anyway and no offence to anyone is intended.

All the best

Mark

 

[blurayisnice]

Can't really understand that comment about 0% about the movie. For me it's all about the movie say 90% and 10% because I like steel packaging and the decent art. Seems like some people are running a business but living in denial.

And digitalis comment

because of the expectation that an item was to be 'limited to x' and never available again, and their own definition of what constitutes a 'valuable' item.

I think that's where some people go wrong because it was never ever agreed that there would be no re releases and so expectations fall short.

You should never expect a steelbook to not be re released. As long as there's a few quid to be made they will be re released and released again.

And for Stevo who thinks that when the next format comes along blu ray steelbooks will still be worth something, just take a look at DVD steels my friend, you are in for a big surprise. I'm not saying that will be anytime soon but your living in dreamland.

That's my thoughts anyway and no offence to anyone is intended.

All the best

Mark

Well, if it is for 90% about the movie, why don't you just by the cheap Amaray version? Why would you spent triple the money because of that '10%'?

 

[bobafettish66]

was curious to see what me mock up would look like with the imagery swapped. (made some other slight adjustments too) so which do you lot think works better.

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[Anth0ny80]

I prefer the first custom

 

[alvinhwang21]

was curious to see what me mock up would look like with the imagery swapped. (made some other slight adjustments too) so which do you lot think works better.

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i like the second, it'll go well with the first release of captain america

 

[blumark007]

Well, if it is for 90% about the movie, why don't you just by the cheap Amaray version? Why would you spent triple the money because of that '10%'?

As I said I like steel packaging. I could go on for hours but this is not the right thread.
Oh and because I can afford to over and out.

---------- Post added at 07:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 PM ----------

was curious to see what me mock up would look like with the imagery swapped. (made some other slight adjustments too) so which do you lot think works better.

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Thanks for taking the time to do this, I think it's awesome. That art, high gloss finish and your done

 

[tuffeerik]

Can't really understand that comment about 0% about the movie. For me it's all about the movie say 90% and 10% because I like steel packaging and the decent art. Seems like some people are running a business but living in denial.

And digitalis comment

because of the expectation that an item was to be 'limited to x' and never available again, and their own definition of what constitutes a 'valuable' item.

I think that's where some people go wrong because it was never ever agreed that there would be no re releases and so expectations fall short.

You should never expect a steelbook to not be re released. As long as there's a few quid to be made they will be re released and released again.

And for Stevo who thinks that when the next format comes along blu ray steelbooks will still be worth something, just take a look at DVD steels my friend, you are in for a big surprise. I'm not saying that will be anytime soon but your living in dreamland.

That's my thoughts anyway and no offence to anyone is intended.

All the best

Mark

I agree on most of what you are saying... When it comes to steelbooks I think is very individual wahy people collect, and I think we all need to respect each other when it comes to motives around collecting. I have a passion for movies, and the reason I collect steelbooks is that I want my favorite movies in a ultimate edition. For me personally steelbooks are the ultimate edition. Many will disagree but I think steelbooks are beautiful. Its not without reason its called "ARTwork".
Im am one of those who disagree that steelbooks will fall so rapidly in value just because a new media will come... But then again this is my personal opinion.
The next media, whatever it will be might not have a "packaging" which is as appealing to many as steelbooks do now... What if the next media is something similar to minidisc. Personally i dont see the big appeal in a steel packaging that measures 5x5cm for example...
I also know several DVD steelbooks that I would pay big money for. When this is said steelbooks were not as big a market before blu ray as far as I know. There has been a huge increase in the interest for steelbook collecting after the blu ray media came along...
The last thing I have to say is that a re-release is a re.release, and I personally dont see why re-releases should have such a big impact on the original release. For me IM FS will be exactly that no matter how many re-releases. I would pay a big amount of money for I am legend first pressing even if there are re-releases. The same for BB and TDK KR White editions... I could give many examples but i think i have stated my opinion.

 

[stevo]

You know, this comparison with what happened to collectible DVD's keep on coming up. I feel I have to address this issue. It is correct that once the blu ray format came in, collectible DVD's came crashing down in price. It probably angered alot of collectors, and left a sour taste in their mouths. I guess the logical conclusion would be that when the next format comes in, then the exact same thing will happen to bluray steelbooks. On surface, it is a logical conclusion, but one must dig deeper to find out why DVD collectibles declined, and bluray steels will not. Let me start off by saying that I've never collected any formats prior to bluray steelbooks. I never viewed ANY DVD collectible as "limited". If you have a DVD collection, do me a favor. Go to see how many of them say: limited, special, platinum, premium, collector's edition etc ect. Now remember the story about the boy who cried wolf. My point is, that a vast majority of these DVD releases used one of these words. It got so bad, that I never believed a single word of what they're saying.

They say something is a "limited" edition, yet I find it for sale everywhere I looked. I go get a bite to eat at my favorite restaurant, Pete's Fish n' Chips & Insurance, I see "limited" edition DVD's for sale, right next to the tuna casarole. I go to take a dump in a mall 12 miles out of Timbuctoo, and there is a vending machine selling "limited" edition DVD's next to me in the stall. OK, these 2 events may, or may not have happened. I'm not saying that it did, (but I'm not saying that it didn't either). The point is, the purvayors of these "limited" edition DVD's shot themselves in the foot, crying wolf once too many time. The truly limited ones got painted with the same brush, sort of like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

With blu ray steelbooks, they don't have to tell me its limited, I know for a fact that it is limited. For instance, I can only go to FS to get their exclusive steels, and not Walmart, Target or any other mass conglomerates. And thats the difference I see between the 2.

 

[BluRoo98]

was curious to see what me mock up would look like with the imagery swapped. (made some other slight adjustments too) so which do you lot think works better.

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They are BOTh awesome and could both work equally well. Wreck saying "it will be a great little brother - (I think that was his quote) has really got my curiosity. This would fill that slot for sure.

 

[jimmyv]

They say something is a "limited" edition, yet I find it for sale everywhere I looked. I go get a bite to eat at my favorite restaurant, Pete's Fish n' Chips & Insurance, I see "limited" edition DVD's for sale, right next to the tuna casarole. I go to take a dump in a mall 12 miles out of Timbuctoo, and there is a vending machine selling "limited" edition DVD's next to me in the stall.

omg stevo... I know you post a lot of controversial stuff.... but this right here man... this is one of the funniest things i have ever seen posted anywhere. i will choose to believe that both incidents happened. that is some high comedy right there.

 

[digitalbabe]

Guys, please feel free to start or join threads in our other forums (Blu-Ray, DVD, etc etc) to discuss different formats, etc. Lets keep this thread on track, please. Thanks!

 

[Petro49er]

I don't get the reasoning of people getting all worked up over a new Thor and Captain America Steelbook (and yes, I have both). Hell, I don't even understand buying a steelbook, just to leave it wrapped and unwatched. If you're looking for an investment, there are much better alternatives than a silly steelbook to sink your money into.

Just one man's opinion.

 

[Iron wolf]

I doubt it will have the same artwork as the HMV one as that was the UK exclusive. Now the steelbook game is becoming meaningless day by day lol.. But I'll be interested to see the print run as i still probably get this.