Wreck-It Ralph (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive: The Disney Collection #4)[UK]

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Release date: January 20th, 2014
Purchase link: Wreck-It Ralph
Price: £19.99
Notes: Limited to 4000 units, matte finish, debossed border, embossed title, back cover and inside artwork, 1-disc edition

The others: Zavvi Exclusive: The Disney Collection Blu-ray SteelBooks

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I do prefer the new artwork, however I feel it would have been more respectful to the members here to offer a poll in the choosing between the old and new.

And whilst its great Zavvi have responded, I would be hoping they are also taking note of the issues with their Customer Service and warehouse problems, and we will see improvements/changes there.

The bold bit is what I care about first and foremost! I'm not doing so well on receiving my Zavvi steels in good condition recently and this is one I would certainly like to arrive in mint condition!

Back to the specific topic though, I don't believe I expressed my opinion one way or the other previously, but I do personally prefer this change to the artwork over the prior version.
 
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I have a solution. There is a print run of 5000. Why don't they make 2 designs 2500/2500. One old, one new. Then everyone gets to have what they want AND it's more limited so we all win. That's what FS Hunger games and Blufans did....
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but are zavvi not mis selling their customers as I don't recall seeing "artwork subject to change" on the order page and no emails have been sent out to customers who pre ordered notifying them of the change?
 
This is not the only film they have done this to. Sixth sense, the wicker man and twelve monkeys have all had changes with no emails going out. This is such a better back art than the original clip art they had. It was horrible. I would of thought most collectors would much prefer this back cover, before I got into steelbooks I was never too bothered about artwork on blu rays, I admit sometimes I thought covers were lame but I never treated them like steelbooks in sense of keeping them mint and more on show and a collectable. I don't know maybe this is me being selfish because I finally got a cover on a Disney steelbook that I wanted but I just can't understand why this has annoyed a few people about the change. I think more people are gona love this than hate it tho
 
The main issue I have is now that zavvi have changed the artwork due to this site Every thread will now be bombarded with people complaining and posting custom artwork, you only have to visit the thor, captain America and monsters university thread to see this.
 
To be honest it don't bother me, the captain America and Thor steelbooks are not the best covers and I'm all for the custom artwork on the monsters university thread. I think it's a good thing that sometimes the companies listen and work with the buyers. 9 times out of 10 it don't work anyway. But I think anyone will agree the custom artwork on monster university pisses all over what the sites show
 
Yeah I agree the monsters university custom art is a lot better. Don't get me wrong I like that they're listening to buyers but now people will expect it on every steelbook released.
 
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This is not the only film they have done this to. Sixth sense, the wicker man and twelve monkeys have all had changes with no emails going out. This is such a better back art than the original clip art they had. It was horrible. I would of thought most collectors would much prefer this back cover, before I got into steelbooks I was never too bothered about artwork on blu rays, I admit sometimes I thought covers were lame but I never treated them like steelbooks in sense of keeping them mint and more on show and a collectable. I don't know maybe this is me being selfish because I finally got a cover on a Disney steelbook that I wanted but I just can't understand why this has annoyed a few people about the change. I think more people are gona love this than hate it tho

Look at this way you are happy with the new cover, perhaps other people were happy with the original cover.

When ever something is changed some people will be happy with the it whilst others will be unhappy because they preferred the original.
 
To be honest it don't bother me, the captain America and Thor steelbooks are not the best covers and I'm all for the custom artwork on the monsters university thread. I think it's a good thing that sometimes the companies listen and work with the buyers. 9 times out of 10 it don't work anyway. But I think anyone will agree the custom artwork on monster university pisses all over what the sites show

There might also be a cost implication involved too. Wreck it Ralph does not have worldwide artwork that Monsters University seems to have. This way Disney can keep the price the same as it's a one off run anyway.

Any change to MU might mean a special run as it's unlikely they would change the art in other countries. This might mean increased prices which would give people something else to moan about. ;)
 
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I think it's fair to say (having seen the responses since the change) that just as many people liked the old artwork as like the new one. So I wouldn't say the majority won - just the people that were vocal in their dislike.

I also preferred the old art better, it was a nice contrast between the front having old school pixelated art and the modern CGI on the back (plus the contrast of the black front vs white back). I'm still fairly happy with the new version though, so I won't cancel, but I don't think it's fair to chastise those that aren't happy about a change that has basically been forced through by a vocal group of people. Those that were happy with the initial artwork may not have spoken up when it was being discussed etc.

Looking at the vote for the interior art it seems that just as many people are happy with the current layout as the proposed one (EDIT: Actually it seems like more people like the original art, which says something), so maybe that would have been the same if a vote had been taken on the back art.

All this shows is that people should maybe think about everyone before demanding sweeping changes, as maybe what they think is best for EVERYONE is not necessarily the case. It also sets a dangerous precedent for people insisting on changes for every steel they don't like - I put down pre-orders based on the art at the time of my order, so I'm happy with it then, I'm less happy if I end up with something different come release.

Having said all that, it's good that there can be some discussion between this forum and retailers about such changes - just that maybe before we all make some kind of formal request there should be a general poll or similar.


Maybe it should have been stated more clearly on the product page that 'Artwork is subject to change' as some of the Zavvi mockups doesn't really look like final version. If Zavvi had decided to change the artwork on their own last minute, it would still have been wrong for those who had placed pre-orders based on original art and had did not like the changes. Lots of Zavvi artwork has changed in the past with or without influence from customers.

At this point we do not know why Zavvi chose the art. It might be that so many on here were vocal and they decided to honour or request. Another possibility is that the people at Zavvi actually decided that the custom artwork worked better from a design perspective than the original art. We don't know that. Maybe it's both.

I understand that a poll might appear more democratic, but at the same time I don't actually see what's undemocratic about voicing your opinion directly in the thread or dropping Zavvi and email. Then it's up to the rest to tell us how much they hate the artwork (and maybe even make a poll if there's not one already).

The fact that Zavvi agreed to make a change, whether it was due to overwhelming feedback or a design decision, is pretty impressive imo. I've had tons of problems with the Zavvi customer service since I started ordering from them, but the fact that they are actually making an effort, makes me more willing to give them another chance next time. So from that perspective, listening to these suggestions might prove to be a good strategy in the long run.

And another thing: The majority isn't always right. A poll doesn't necessarily replace a good argument. If Zavvi introduces a poll from the start, then they have to stick with the decision that's being now. If Zavvi had done this with Wreck-It-Ralph, I'm not so sure the custom artwork would've been introduced. This time Zavvi was made aware of a possibility they had not already considered.

And let's face it. This was still Zavvi's decision. If 99.9% of the members here wanted to have 'I love willies!' written on the front cover with a spot gloss effect, I think there's more than a slight chance that Zavvi would have used their right to ignore our request, no matter how organized or democratic.
 
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To be honest it don't bother me, the captain America and Thor steelbooks are not the best covers and I'm all for the custom artwork on the monsters university thread. I think it's a good thing that sometimes the companies listen and work with the buyers. 9 times out of 10 it don't work anyway. But I think anyone will agree the custom artwork on monster university pisses all over what the sites show



Custom Artwork is fantastic for users to create and yes some times its much better(Sometimes is I have seen some that are bad) than the original artwork chosen

But any Steelbook should never be changed to a custom artwork that was created by a user on this website without asking users and customers who had placed an order based on original artwork as was advertised
A change should only happen by a vote if the artwork was by a user from this forum

If artwork was changed by Zavvi etc by themselves that was not custom created artwork from a user from HDN then that's there choice and we can always cancel a order

What's most important to me and I would like zavvi and others do is don't drop any extras discs from a release if it was previous released in standard release
and keep the price decent when its back catalogue release
 
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The main issue I have is now that zavvi have changed the artwork due to this site Every thread will now be bombarded with people complaining and posting custom artwork, you only have to visit the thor, captain America and monsters university thread to see this.

The thing is, who knows how much effort has gone into the initial designs? Some steels seem to have been put together at random with no design consideration whatsoever. (Remember the inside art for Black Swan?) I'm not just talking about Zavvi here, as they've shown a willingness to listen to people's opinions. But you can forget about contacting Universal or Disney directly hoping to make an impact. It seems ironic that people complain about the fact that it is actually possible to make an impact, even when it comes to a Disney steel.

Some of the artwork that Disney, Universal and others tend to stick on an amaray or steelbook is shockingly bad. If you look at some of the Disney DVD covers they're actually badly drawn with the characters being almost out of proportion and looking nothing like the characters in the film (and that's not because it's stylised). And that's what they choose over a poster or piece of artwork that is ten times better.
 
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What I don't get is that no one has been able to give an actual argument as to why they preferred the initial artwork, and seem to ignore the criticism of it. The initial art was a piece of clip art, copy and pasted onto a white background. From a design sense, that's cheap and lazy. I don't think anyone that wanted a change was unhappy about the characters being shown, but it was the WAY they were presented. If they had used an image that actually felt like cover art, that had some though put into it, rather something that looked like a page out of a coloring book, I'm sure everyone would have been happy. Look at the blufans version - same characters, but they didn't use cheap looking clip art.

The problem with using clip art is that it opens up future opportunities for them to be lazy about cover art. Slapping an overly-used character image that is the same one used on the all the party supplies and coloring books could lead to some very lazy, very poor designs in the future. I'd certainly hate to see that become the norm. I'm hoping Zavvi has seen that doing so is not what people want.

But I'd love to hear some arguments as to how people can possibly prefer clip art over cover art.
 
Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't it almost exactly the same as the blufans 2D slip image?

Could someone post the old image again please ?
 
Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't it almost exactly the same as the blufans 2D slip image?

Could someone post the old image again please ?

The old imade is hidden within two spolier tags in the OP.
It is a different image used on the blu fans white slip though.
 
What I don't get is that no one has been able to give an actual argument as to why they preferred the initial artwork, and seem to ignore the criticism of it. The initial art was a piece of clip art, copy and pasted onto a white background. From a design sense, that's cheap and lazy. I don't think anyone that wanted a change was unhappy about the characters being shown, but it was the WAY they were presented. If they had used an image that actually felt like cover art, that had some though put into it, rather something that looked like a page out of a coloring book, I'm sure everyone would have been happy. Look at the blufans version - same characters, but they didn't use cheap looking clip art.

The problem with using clip art is that it opens up future opportunities for them to be lazy about cover art. Slapping an overly-used character image that is the same one used on the all the party supplies and coloring books could lead to some very lazy, very poor designs in the future. I'd certainly hate to see that become the norm. I'm hoping Zavvi has seen that doing so is not what people want.

But I'd love to hear some arguments as to how people can possibly prefer clip art over cover art.

Actually I already mentioned this. I preferred the contrast between the pixelated art on the front vs the CGI characters on the back, plus the black vs white colour scheme. I thought it looked great and, as has already been stated, its almost identical to the back art that was used on the Blufans slip and no one had any issues with that.

Plus, I've not exactly checked every piece of Disney tie in tat but I've no doubt the new art will be in there somewhere. I don't mind them using art from somewhere else, if it looks good I'm happy.

People are quick to label some covers as lazy, while claiming similarly simple designs are 'classic' and wonderful. You can't please everyone but if people are not happy then feel free not to buy an item rather than starting yet another crusade for sweeping alterations.
 
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