Wreck-It Ralph (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive: The Disney Collection #4)[UK]

[snooloui]

Release date: January 20th, 2014
Purchase link: Wreck-It Ralph
Price: £19.99
Notes: Limited to 4000 units, matte finish, debossed border, embossed title, back cover and inside artwork, 1-disc edition

The others: Zavvi Exclusive: The Disney Collection Blu-ray SteelBooks

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Actual pics thanks to catcc003:

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[mdewater]

Not sure you quite understand what clip art is. The blufans slip is definitely NOT clip art - it is a cover art, poster image. It was created with the intention of being used as a poster image. The one with her on his shoulder was create with the intention of being slapped on everything from calendars to party napkins. There is a difference. If people really can't see the difference between the two, it won't surprise me when Zavvi/Disney gets away with being lazy. And no, this isn't me "claiming" that it's lazy. It's a fact that one is clip art and one is a poster image.

 

[mnementh]

Just because something has been designed to out on a napkin does not make it clip art. I'm sure you're going to come back and say you've been in design for 50+ years or something, but really your statement is tosh

 

[mdewater]

Hmm.. Well that IS the definition of clip art - something that is made with the intention of being used for a muliltitude of different objects or materials. What else makes it clip art?

Also, assuming I'm "that guy" that's gonna come in here and try and tell you I'm more educated than you is simply throwing punches. Not really necessary.

 

[apsmith21]

I have a solution. There is a print run of 5000. Why don't they make 2 designs 2500/2500. One old, one new. Then everyone gets to have what they want AND it's more limited so we all win. That's what FS Hunger games and Blufans did....

Minimum run in the UK is 4K. Two different designs would need to be 4k each. China is a different market, and BluFans gets away with smaller runs because steelbook was to get into the China market.

I think the overriding theme of any topic is that we, as collectors, don't want to the design for any steelbook to be repeated from one country to the next.

Zavvi was asked about the artwork being the same as the BluFans release and we were curious about if it could be changed.

They came back with the new artwork - and as with any mockup that you guys are provided PRIOR to it's actual release - like any item on another retailer - artwork and details are subject to change.

Considering that the feedback we provide to many types of retailers and studios is listened to at all is a testament to members and staff here.

But as many of you have said, not everybody is going to be 100% happy, but at least now you have two distinct releases to choose from.

It's good to have choices, IMO.

 

[jackanape]

Not sure you quite understand what clip art is. The blufans slip is definitely NOT clip art - it is a cover art, poster image. It was created with the intention of being used as a poster image. The one with her on his shoulder was create with the intention of being slapped on everything from calendars to party napkins. There is a difference. If people really can't see the difference between the two, it won't surprise me when Zavvi/Disney gets away with being lazy. And no, this isn't me "claiming" that it's lazy. It's a fact that one is clip art and one is a poster image.

You not getting my point. I don't care if it's clip art (and I did already know what clip art was), or if it's used on a variety of things, at the end of the day it's a nice image and actually a better image than the one on the Blufans slip which makes Ralph look extra boxy.

It looked nice, and it contrasted well with the black front/art. That is what I care about. Not every steel has to have genius design work or use specific poster/cover art in order to look good.

Regardless this argument is cyclical. The change has been made and people can either live with it or cancel. Hopefully, in future, changes will be handled with a bit more communication and foresight - which was my main point all along.

 

[apsmith21]

By the way folks, spirited discussion is OK, but let's all remember not to take things personal, and if you felt like you've stated your point, take a collective breath, view some funny kitten pictures, and then come back to this thread.

 

[mdewater]

Never said you didn't know what clip art is. I was talking to mnemeth, since he said "both clip art on a white background". I totally agree that if there's going to be a change its be better to set up a poll.

But the problem is right here - "I don't CARE if its clip art". It's my understanding that most steelbook collectors are in this because we enjoy films as art. By supporting the use clip art, that to me is degrading the integrity of a film. Imagine if all they ever put on steelbooks was clip art? I'm pretty sure most people would no longer be buying.

 

[jitstark]

 

[wjasoncul]

Being a Blufans and Zavvi collector, I am very happy for the change in art. And that's because I will open the Zavvi steel and keep the Blufans sealed. The original art wasn't enough to make me double dip, especially since it nearly matched the Blufans slip, but with the new change I will gladly purchase the Zavvi version now.

P.S. I don't know the difference between clip-art and poster art, but I do like for them to look good and be unique, especially when a double-dip is involved . I don't look at movie posters that often.

 

[mnementh]

Hmm.. Well that IS the definition of clip art - something that is made with the intention of being used for a muliltitude of different objects or materials. What else makes it clip art?

Also, assuming I'm "that guy" that's gonna come in here and try and tell you I'm more educated than you is simply throwing punches. Not really necessary.

I agree with your definition of clip art, however I do disagree with your statement that 1 image is and 1 image isn't - both images will turn up on many a birthday card ! And apologies if my 'tosh' statement caused any offense.

 

[mdewater]

No worries - but that is exactly my point. The Zavvi image you'll see all over the place. If you can find any merchandise with the blufans image, I'll be happy to eat my words and apologize.

 

[mnementh]

I think we have the same point but from different ends. Disney will want to maximise returns on all commissioned artwork, so the blufans image will start to turn up on tat

Looking on google images and tin eye, the only other place I can find the original Zavvi image is the Wii game. Not quite a napkin but again I'm sure Disney will want to maximise returns on it

 

[Jnavotheman]

I agree that everyone should look at Funny Kitten pics before posting, some members are going a bit over board right now. Just chill out and be cool

 

[snooloui]

At the end of the day, everyone has equal opportunity to state their opinion. If the majority have an opinion contrary to your own, then that's tough luck. It doesn't mean you should be happy about it, but it does make sense even if you don't want to accept it.

 

[Kashby]

What I don't get is that no one has been able to give an actual argument as to why they preferred the initial artwork, and seem to ignore the criticism of it. The initial art was a piece of clip art, copy and pasted onto a white background. From a design sense, that's cheap and lazy.

But using a image found on google isn't cheap and lazy?

 

[jackanape]

But using a image found on google isn't cheap and lazy?

https://www.hidefninja.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45892&stc=1&d=1378398644

Heh heh, don't go using logic or the Internet may explode. This conversation has taken a ridiculous turn when we are talking about "artistic integrity" when the choices in question are 8-bit graphics vs a CGI pose.

People like both and they are both good bits of art, despite what some may think, that no doubt took just as much effort to produce. Arguing about which is better is pointless. What we should focus on is just how open to similar cases Zavvi will be - as if they are free to change art on anything then maybe that should be taken into account when it comes to opening up pre-orders, so then people here can run polls, gauge opinion etc.

The change, in this case, is done but it never hurts to be better informed for future instances where people can have a say on artwork.

 

[jimmyv]

Minimum run in the UK is 4K.

Ah hah!

So Roger Rabbit is actually 4k this whole time. Interesting......

 

[Kashby]

Haha can we all agree to change the subject now?

 

[mdewater]

But using a image found on google isn't cheap and lazy?

https://www.hidefninja.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45892&stc=1&d=1378398644

Don't really get this argument... Any and all of these images - clip art, posters, cover art, all of it - can be found on google.

The argument isn't where it was found (or how much wok went into it - I never argued that the clip art image didn't take any work to produce), it's about how well the image works as a piece of cover art.

 

[apsmith21]

Ah hah!

So Roger Rabbit is actually 4k this whole time. Interesting......

Nope, previous numbers as advertised for Roger Rabbit are accurate as far as I'm aware.

If today, I went to a studio and said I want release xyz in steelbook, I would have to order a minimum of 4,000 units.

You gotta remember, retailers and studios do all kinds of other bargaining behind the scenes - there are all kinds of different types of deals struck when it comes to collectible releases.