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Predestination (Blu-ray SteelBook) [UK]
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Good catch!!! ...Must have been a mistake on the Artist's part. Should be XII... Can't think of any reason why it should be 21.
If you can't see a similarity, may I recommend Specsavers.Please tell me you're kidding, SlyFondle
Funny you say that... as I actually work for my local Specsavers in Wales. Heh. Personally I don't think two characters carrying items with their backs turned to us constitutes as plagiarism (one is carrying a guitar case and a briefcase whilst the other is carrying a briefcase and an umbrela, different hats and so on). Besides. the person who made this artwork took that image of Hawke from an official Predestination poster. So basically you're telling me no-one is allowed to have a character with their back turned. Heh.
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Silhouette of a man in a long coat and hat, carrying a case and walking directly away from the viewer, against a blue background. You're right, they're totally differentFunny you say that... as I actually work for my local Specsavers in Wales. Heh. Personally I don't think two characters carrying items with their backs turned to us constitutes as plagiarism (one is carrying a guitar case and a briefcase whilst the other is carrying a briefcase and an umbrela, different hats and so on). Besides. the person who made this artwork took that image of Hawke from an official Predestination poster. So basically you're telling me no-one is allowed to have a character with their back turned. Heh.
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You're really gonna keep this going? Heh. That silhouette you speak of is taken from official promotional material for the film. So can't you understand that using the word plagiarism is just laughable in this instance? The guy who made the steelbook artwork did not steal that from that 'Being There' poster you posted there... because he didn't create that element of the artwork. Sure, they both have the same blue background but that's all that is definitively similar because the clothes and the case and all that is all part of Ethan Hawke's character in the sodding film. And I see countless posters where there's a character walking directly away from the viewer. I mean, don't you?Silhouette of a man in a long coat and hat, carrying a case and walking directly away from the viewer, against a blue background. You're right, they're totally different
I said the artwork is plagiarism, in the same way that the Saul Bass "inspired" winning artwork from the 'Whiplash' competition was. I didn't say it was the guy that made the steelbook artwork that stole from the 'Being There' poster. Theft of other people's ideas may be commonplace in the advertising industry, of which movie posters are a part, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be called out.
But the first sentence there contradicts the second sentence, surely? If the artwork is plagiarism and there's only person who made that artwork then why the need to point out that you didn't say that the fault lies with the guy that made the artwork and all that. Honestly, and there's no offence intended here... but there's a bit of tunnel vision with your thoughts on this. Theft of other people's ideas is definitely commonplace in the advertising industry... but certainly not here, for sure.
All that's happened here is that a person took (from official promotional material) the silhouette image of Ethan Hawke who just happens to have his back to us and just happens to be carrying similar items to the figure in the 'Being There' poster. He also happens to be wearing slightly similar clothing, a hat and a long coat. But these items and clothes are part of the character in the film. He also made the background blue but if you head to Google and search in the images section for Predestination you're greeted with quite a fair bit of promotional material where the colour scheme is... very, very blue. The colour is also prominent in the film itself - Ethan Hawke's character wears a blue hat for example. There's the scenes where Sarah Snook is going through training and she and others are wearing a blue and white outfit. So it makes sense that the background is blue and not, say, red for example.
I could go on but I'm happy to leave it there if you want to, you know? Because we're both going around in circles here... but I'll be very surprised if any of this plagiarism talk lasts beyond this page... and that will say it all really.
I think the artwork for this is pretty good; clean and cool. Don't know much about the film though - is it worth a blind buy? Also, never bought anything from Base before. Where are they (ahem) based and what's their service/packaging like. At that price I might be tempted...
I recommend giving the movie a watch before. I enjoyed it but it could be a little weird for others.
On Dispatch. Base are not too great at delivering on time normally the tuesday or wednesday after release but their prices are better
The artwork could have been better but with the choices they make for the winner could be worse too, I'd rather wait for the Kimchidvd exclusive, for me this movie is worth the extra cost.
I hope Kimchi do release different artwork for this. I still route for a lenti edition with the different characters reflecting.
I sent a message to Dan (the competition winner) asking if the XXI was an oversight or not, here's the reply I got:
Hi,
Thank you for your message. I did have my reasons for using 21 but I can understand the confusion.
I originally wanted to add an element that people could take it as they liked and try to work out why it was 21. Much like what the film achieves.
My take on the events in the film are that the time travel paradox is a kind of glitch that wouldn't be able to occur along a regular timeline.
Hence jumping from XI to XXI as a glitch instead of XII.
The fact that as you go through the cycle of time and this glitch keeps occurring, is also symbolic of the snake eating its own tail (which I show on the back cover)
I also thought 21 taken as its 2 numeric characters 2,1 could represent Sarah and Ethan's characters...
Personally I think I was trying to be too clever for my own good and am beginning to regret not just putting 12 instead. I have provided an option of the artwork with 12 on it as an alternative but I left it up to Signature to choose which to use.
Hope this helps spread some light on the matter.
All the best,
Dan
/cc @Mr Y Fronts @kaw
Hi,
Thank you for your message. I did have my reasons for using 21 but I can understand the confusion.
I originally wanted to add an element that people could take it as they liked and try to work out why it was 21. Much like what the film achieves.
My take on the events in the film are that the time travel paradox is a kind of glitch that wouldn't be able to occur along a regular timeline.
Hence jumping from XI to XXI as a glitch instead of XII.
The fact that as you go through the cycle of time and this glitch keeps occurring, is also symbolic of the snake eating its own tail (which I show on the back cover)
I also thought 21 taken as its 2 numeric characters 2,1 could represent Sarah and Ethan's characters...
actually being the same person. Two becoming one.
Personally I think I was trying to be too clever for my own good and am beginning to regret not just putting 12 instead. I have provided an option of the artwork with 12 on it as an alternative but I left it up to Signature to choose which to use.
Hope this helps spread some light on the matter.
All the best,
Dan
/cc @Mr Y Fronts @kaw
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