Blade Runner 2049 (Blu-ray SteelBook) (FilmArena Collection #101) [Czech Republic]

Which embossing/debossing option would you prefer?

  • Option 1

    Votes: 28 15.5%
  • Option 2

    Votes: 118 65.2%
  • Option 3

    Votes: 35 19.3%

  • Total voters
    181

snooloui

The 'Negative' Ninja
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Release date: May 11, 2018 (E5A - E5B), June 18 (E1), June 14 (E2), June 18 (E3), July 25 (E4)
Purchase links: E1 - E2 - E3 - E4 (pre-order May 2018) Standard Editions E5 A - E5 B
Price: CZK 999 (E1) - 1299 (E2) - 1399 (E3) - 4999 (E4) - 1099 (E5A ) - 699 (E5B)
Group buy: hosted by carllenc E1 - E2 - E3 - E4 - E5 A - E5 B

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Release date: February 7, 2018 - FAC TBA
Purchase link: E5 A (4K+3D+2D) - E5 B (3D+2D) - FAC E1/E2/E3/E4 TBA
Prices: CZK 1099 (E5 A) - CZK 699 (E5 B) - FAC E1/E2/E3/E4 TBA
Group Buy: E5 A (CZK 1254.00) - E5 B (CZK 798.00)
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I don't think every FAC will be XL. Their FACs already cost a lot so you might as well get your moneys worth in a big fat slip :rofl:
I would say it's an upgrade up from their original releases on new selected releases.

I would say FA are the most consistent premium retailer by a mile. All their hardboxes are all the same. The manaic boxes, not the JW and T5, are all the same sizes. All their single editions are all consistent. Now they releasing XL on specific releases is a good upgrade from what they started.

Look at how many times Blufans have changed?! It's only recently they started to become more consistent with their boxsets. Their slips have changed on numerous releases, from O-Rings, to slimmer slips, to thicker slips for their Double Lenti's, don't forget their awful cardboad feel, to having foreign writing on the spines and then removing them, from silly shoe flat boxes, to a Tri-Pack such as Star Trek and Transformers then you never see them again. Yes they produce the best WEA but reference to consistency, they are a complete mess. And now they just seemed to realise that :LOL:

Zeta IMO have the classiest box sets and love how they kept them all the same. Their DC line ups will look magnificent together. BvS was ground breaker with the unique Double Lenti, Special Pack, and 4K edition only in the box sets which all follow on the same pattern.

Manta are a mess with consistency. Yes they try things new but they really need to keep a theme going that is unique to them which just doesn't flow at all.

But FA having done the same slips for so long needed a change and I welcome it.
 
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Going forward with individual releases, not a problem at all, but to continue a franchise without an option as their standard FACs is going to ruin the set you’ve already built up surely, it’s like having a VHS of Predator, DVD of Predator 2 and a Blu Ray Of Predators lined up next to each other - going to crap!

Maybe I’m being OCD, but I would like them to continue with some franchises with their same format as long as they have their standard FACS for them.

If they do the original Blade Runner with an XL, great, it would go well with these, but if not .... it would make you wonder what’s in their heads a bit!

I personally don't feel that the XL Death Cure Slip will ruin the FAC Franchise, to me it will sit nicely besides the others. I would agree this being an OCD thing.
I am Actually Really Happy that it is an XL Slip.
The Only criticism I would have is I would have rather liked a Fullslip Finish as Opposed to a Lenticular, but with such a kick a** Package it's a detail.
 
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@Steelselecta I know what you mean mate with Maze Runner 3. I'm like you as well, what I hate most is inconsistency in a franchise from the same retailer. You got two normal slips and one big fat slip lol. I understand why you are a bit cheesed off mate. What happens if Maze Runner keeps on going with their franchise, are FA going to have to keep making their standard slips to keep the initial sets nice together? :p When more of the MR's get released I think you will like them mate. Try and see it as an upgrade mate, rather than a change for the sake of it.

I would probably may expect a change in the next Alien release. I guess it will have at least one XL slip and Covenant never had one, unless you count that strange embossing on E3 as an XL (needed a Zeta steelbook case to squeeze that in!).
 
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@Actarus :LOL::rofl::hilarious:

It won’t matter what FA do to you Steve me ol mucker, you will always be a FAC ambassador and will continue to give them praise as you are a huge fan, and as per our past conversations you know I am too, but this really has got my goat and my OCD is really going on overload on this one! XLs as whole not a problem at all, like @sunnyx , I welcome it, but not to the detriment of my OCD! No sir! :LOL:

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@Actarus :LOL::rofl::hilarious:

It won’t matter what FA do to you Steve me ol mucker, you will always be a FAC ambassador and will continue to give them praise as you are a huge fan, and as per our past conversations you know I am too, but this really has got my goat and my OCD is really going on overload on this one! XLs as whole not a problem at all, like @sunnyx , I welcome it, but not to the detriment of my OCD! No sir! :LOL:

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I know you are :thumbs: and I do understand how you feel :rofl:
 
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I would say FA are the most consistent premium retailer by a mile. All their hardboxes are all the same. The manaic boxes, not the JW and T5, are all the same sizes. All their single editions are all consistent. Now they releasing XL on specific releases is a good upgrade from what they started.
You just totally proved yourself wrong with this statement. I count no less than 6 different release versions from them

Shoebox Maniacs (JW/T5)
Smaller compact Maniacs (Spiderman/MI5/Child 44/etc)
Slightly bigger Maniacs (Fast Furios/BR2049?)
Normal Slips
XL slips
Double Pack Hardboxes

That is far from consistent lol

Everyone has evolved and has different sizes and types of boxes. But you can't claim that all of those different release types is consistency.
 
You just totally proved yourself wrong with this statement. I count no less than 6 different release versions from them

Shoebox Maniacs (JW/T5)
Smaller compact Maniacs (Spiderman/MI5/Child 44/etc)
Slightly bigger Maniacs (Fast Furios/BR2049?)
Normal Slips
XL slips
Double Pack Hardboxes

That is far from consistent lol

Everyone has evolved and has different sizes and types of boxes. But you can't claim that all of those different release types is consistency.

What did I prove wrong? Read what I said:
All their hardboxes are all the same. - They are the same size
The manaic boxes, not the JW and T5, are all the same sizes. - If you read my post to Apo I state that FF Maniac box is wider. That's not a variation, they made this wider to fit All seven, it is still the same depth and nearly the same height. It's the same design.
The manaic boxes, not the JW and T5 - I identified not JW/T5 as being consistent.
All their single editions are all consistent. Now they releasing XL - Their single editions are consistent. XL is the upgraded version and an added variation.

You cannot confuse a Maniac box that's a tiny little bit taller and wider such as the FF as a new design. That's not a variation, it's made so it can fit seven movies. It's still the same design and consistency. If you want to be picky I can say Blufans Rogue one is a little thinner than The Force Awakens. I identified the massive shoe boxes did not count in the consistency. I said 'not the JW and T5'. Hardboxes are the design for the double steel focused on primary on WWA and the WEA to the maniac boxes. They are still using the double hardbox.

XL slips? :rofl: Why are you confusing XL slips with Box sets?? It's not like they did a few XL slips and then changed to standard size slips then changed to something different because it wasn't working. All of their standard slips have been consistent since As Above So Below. Then they introduced a thicker slip as a variation. It's not like a skinny taller slip, O-Rings, taller skinny slips.

The only thing that is not consistent is the shoe box maniac boxes as you describe. FA realised it was too ambitious :LOL:

So from what I have said they are still using the same designs.
Hardboxes - focuses primarily on WWA
Maniacs - focuses primarily WEA
Standard Slips - been running since FAC #1
XL - An added variation and upgrade.
The tiny bit taller and wider boxsets - not an evolvement :LOL: Made just to squeeze all of steels and goodies in. Not a new design by any means.

So if you line up all your hardboxes they are the same.
You line up your Maniacs they are all the same (excluding the extra dimensions to accommodate FF)
You line up all the standard editions they are all the same.
You line up all the XL slips they are the same.

The only thing that doesn't line up and discontinued is the massive maniac box sets.

Consistency is about keeping the theme and series the same so they all line up nicely together.
 
Yes, little surprise it came out like this ...
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... but great nevertheless to see that's it's not just the title getting the biz and that the frame isn't there just for embossed titles .. which seems to be the case with the majority of these releases.
That said, embossed artwork is obviously dependent on the design and it's not always desirable or suitable.
In this case ... with this artwork ... works a treat.
(framing border of course not really necessary for embossing on steelbooks or futurepaks ... although it does add stability and an extra touch of class to steelbooks (imo) ... but is something not needed on the sturdier design of the futurepak).
 
What did I prove wrong? Read what I said:
All their hardboxes are all the same. - They are the same size
The manaic boxes, not the JW and T5, are all the same sizes. - If you read my post to Apo I state that FF Maniac box is wider. That's not a variation, they made this wider to fit All seven, it is still the same depth and nearly the same height. It's the same design.
The manaic boxes, not the JW and T5 - I identified not JW/T5 as being consistent.
All their single editions are all consistent. Now they releasing XL - Their single editions are consistent. XL is the upgraded version and an added variation.

You cannot confuse a Maniac box that's a tiny little bit taller and wider such as the FF as a new design. That's not a variation, it's made so it can fit seven movies. It's still the same design and consistency. If you want to be picky I can say Blufans Rogue one is a little thinner than The Force Awakens. I identified the massive shoe boxes did not count in the consistency. I said 'not the JW and T5'. Hardboxes are the design for the double steel focused on primary on WWA and the WEA to the maniac boxes. They are still using the double hardbox.

XL slips? :rofl: Why are you confusing XL slips with Box sets?? It's not like they did a few XL slips and then changed to standard size slips then changed to something different because it wasn't working. All of their standard slips have been consistent since As Above So Below. Then they introduced a thicker slip as a variation. It's not like a skinny taller slip, O-Rings, taller skinny slips.

The only thing that is not consistent is the shoe box maniac boxes as you describe. FA realised it was too ambitious :LOL:

So from what I have said they are still using the same designs.
Hardboxes - focuses primarily on WWA
Maniacs - focuses primarily WEA
Standard Slips - been running since FAC #1
XL - An added variation and upgrade.
The tiny bit taller and wider boxsets - not an evolvement :LOL: Made just to squeeze all of steels and goodies in. Not a new design by any means.

So if you line up all your hardboxes they are the same.
You line up your Maniacs they are all the same (excluding the extra dimensions to accommodate FF)
You line up all the standard editions they are all the same.
You line up all the XL slips they are the same.

The only thing that doesn't line up and discontinued is the massive maniac box sets.

Consistency is about keeping the theme and series the same so they all line up nicely together.
Variations are different, sure they are the same height but the width is different. A variation is a variation doesnt matter if its height or width. They have at least 6 different sized formats. I think you need to look at the definition of variation, different width is exactly what a variation is!
 
Variations are different, sure they are the same height but the width is different. A variation is a variation doesnt matter if its height or width. They have at least 6 different sized formats. I think you need to look at the definition of variation, different width is exactly what a variation is!

Then if you going to start 'counting' I count about 30 - 50 different variations for blufans if you going to get the ruler out. Some of it can be called evolvement, some of it can be classed as the current series in that format, a lot of it can be classed as inconsistency.

You don't expect a retailer to release one format and stick with that for the rest of it's life do you? Of course they are going to be changes. But FA have kept with their series and maintained consistency. You don't see Blufans going back to O-Rings are Wall-e/Frozen Olaf tall skinny slips? No. You don't see Marvel shoe box sets? Nope. You don't see The skinnier standard size slips such as CA and Thor used again do you? Nope. So Big Hero 6 Disney shoe boxes, suddenly stop doing that, release some more disneys, minus the shoe box.

See this line up from Blufans? That's how inconsistent they are. Now I will get the ruler out and pretty much say at least 10 are all different 'variations' and sizes according to your definition. That's not including the hundreds of other editions to examine with a ruler.

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Now you see FA? Consistency. They are look the same in their series.

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Sorry Matt, if you are going to get a ruler out and cannot define what is consistent and what is not, then you are talking a load of nonsense mate. Why am I wasting my time explaining this to you?
 
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Oh and @howarmat, you forgot Alien Covenant E3. The embossing does it make extra thicker by a few mm, lol, does that count to your definition? And Bad Boys, it does come with a gift badge, so does that make inconsistent if I line it up as well? :rofl::p I count 8 variations from FA!