Most people who have been collecting a couple of years don't like re-releases or more specifically re-prints. Most people who have been collecting for less than that, specifically since Play.com started with their wave releases, tend to think that re-releases are fine because they can't afford those expensive early releases. Both opinions are pretty selfish (let's be honest collecting is pretty selfish on the whole) so both sides will have to agree to disagree. We can keep going round and round, but in the end we end up with threads full of bickering and no common acceptance. Let's just get back to discussing what's good about Steelbook collecting. No amount of moaning is going to change the direction this hobby is heading.
People "tend" to think that re-releases are fine? IT IS FINE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with besides the issue some of these selfish collectors have with re-releases.
No, not "both" opinions are selfish. Collecting isn't selfish unless you don't want others to be able to collect the same things you collect, which is exactly the issue here.
Yes, lets just go back to discussing what's good about steelbook collecting. But it pretty much sucks when you go into a re-release thread and you're interested and everyone is just trash-talking the steelbook.
Well i for one have been collecting for years , so i am one of those who do moan over any steelbook that has been re-released identically with the first released steelbook.
You might think it is extremely selfish or insignificant when a Member postest his dismay over a re-release but would you not be disappointed over something that you charish (i dont know what it is , but it could be any number of things) something you had bought and cherished and considered it very rare to all of a sudden pop up all over so that anybody who wanted it could purchase one. If you paid alot of money for something that was rare , and then became availiable again at a fraction of the cost you paid for it, it would hurt . That is what collecting is all about - imo.
I also think that a forum is a place where people can exchange their ideas and even express themselves even if it is not appealing to you, so please try to be more tolerant in this direction.
Of course the people who have just started to collect Bluray Steelbooks and dont really care about the value of a 1st print or reprint or or or - for those people re-releases are good , for me personally it is totally disappointing. So i will continue to "speak my mind" to this effect as long as i dont personally attack anyone i think its fine to do that. We all have different opinions of things dont we?
I say bäh bäh bäh to re-releases !! I will definitly buy the new artwork Star Trek XI steelbook from zavvi , but the re-release i will not buy (would not even if i did not have the "original" one)
Im really intersted in the Artwork of this Zavvi exklusive Steelbook
Take care
John
I would never be disappointed if something that I cherish was released for other people to enjoy. I'm not selfish. I don't buy steelbooks because they are "rare" and I wouldn't cherish something I've bought for that reason. To me that's illogical unless it was a rock from the moon or something. But even then I wouldn't mind other people owning a piece of the same stuff. Steelbooks are not rare, thousands of them are made.
Of course I'm tolerant to other peoples opinion, can't I voice mine? I think it's complete trolling when people trash talk the re-releases in their threads. But they do have the freedom to do so if they want, of course. But out of respect, people should just not bother and leave those threads to the people who are interested.
The only ones angry are the ones that purchased the original based on the value to someone else - as in, they bought it because it is deemed to have a high value by others. Those that bought it because of the value to themself don't mind - because they still have their steel and they still have the exact item that they purchased for a price that was worth it to them at the time.
I collect many things... I would never ever get pissed off if someone was able to buy what I own. I have nothing against other people enjoying the same stuff I have. In fact, I'd rather more people did so we would have more things in common.
It kinda has to go both ways though. New collector's don't seem to understand what the old collector's have been going through with all these re-releases. They call them "selfish". They call them "out of touch". Why is it ok for one group to feel one way, and not the other group?
People are okay to feel however they want to, nobody is saying otherwise.
Exactly. Everyone should just agree to disagree, neither argument will prevail, so it's pointless even bothering.
Of course no argument will prevail when people don't agree. Yes, we should just agree to disagree. But perhaps, as I've mentioned before, the haters of re-releases should out of respect, leave the re-release threads to those interested in them. I would never had my rant or any issue if it wasn't for those kind of comments constantly being posted in the re-release threads. I, as a long time collector of steelbooks, am interested in steelbooks and it's off putting discussing a steelbook when people have such negative opinions about it... I have respect for other people, but it's kinda hard to keep that respect because of the reasons I've stated.
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John i agree with you if id paid out for a holy grail or had purchased the Original Star Trek fs or play from release id be peeved at a re-release, theres no need for it.
However i do like yourself welcome the new artwork even though i do not own the original releases.
For you.
