Official Alcohol Discussion Thread!

Jan 28, 2009
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Manteca, CA
Can we get a sticky for this? :D

What do ya'll prefer to drink? Beer, Wine, Hard Liquor, Wine Coolers? All of them?

I only drink Beer and Hard Liquor. Mint Mojito is about the only thing close to a wine cooler I'll drink though LOL
 
why is it illegal?


well I live in Kansas, so having booze delivered to your door is against the law, but I got it and I'm not complaining

mine was transported by the USPS once it got into the states which also forbids shipping alcohol- i think its a federal offense to ship booze using the USPS
 
Only place I found that will ship it to the U.S. to your door is belgianshop.com

here you go: Westvleteren 12

it's forbidden by the monastery to resell it therefore any bottle you acquire not from the monastery directly at their gates is considered illegal, FYI.

It took about 3 weeks for me to receive my bottles. They have to acquire them from the monastery and then they ship them somehow directly to your door.. It's a hair puller waiting, but you get them - follow the tracking # so you can get them outta the box and into cold storage quickly... recommended to keep them at 50-55 degrees until ready to consume.

what was the total cost?

thinking of getting some.
 
what was the total cost?

thinking of getting some.



For westveleteren 12? For three, 11.2oz bottles?




Sitting down?


Nice cold drink ready?


Fat wallet?




$70


I still would never do it again, but for the times I get to drink this beer, it was totally worth the price at least once.
 
for what is and where it's coming from i was thinking more.

it's still a lot, just not as much as i was thinking.


only thing keeping me from getting it is the risk:ohno:
 
for what is and where it's coming from i was thinking more.

it's still a lot, just not as much as i was thinking.


only thing keeping me from getting it is the risk:ohno:



I was pretty worried myself.. but the dude at Belgianshop.com allayed my fears and they treated me well.. I'd say shop with confidence, and do it before it gets into the hot summer months or wait until late fall
 
so while you guys are talking about Tasty 8% beer....

how about trying to form some moon shine of 60,80 percent alcohol,what would that take???...is there a risk of something happening since its most likely flammable?....just wondering.
 
so while you guys are talking about Tasty 8% beer....

how about trying to form some moon shine of 60,80 percent alcohol,what would that take???...is there a risk of something happening since its most likely flammable?....just wondering.



Rocket fuel (moonshine) is dangerous and mostly illegal unless you are a commercial producer.

Distilling spirits is dangerous because fusel oils that aren't removed can cause blindness, etc... Which is HIGHLY LIKELY in a homebrewing environment, you have to be pretty darn careful



Wouldn't recommend it. However, if you want to increase the alcohol of the beer freeze it and then pour off the remaining water/syrup. Since alcohol won't freeze you are effectively removing water and concentrating the beer. This is NOT considered distilling and also it is how Eisbock's are made

EDIT: Also, if you want to make a stronger beer simply add more malt/sugar. Create a yeast starter and slowly ratchet up the malt until the yeast is kicking out 20-30% alcohol by volume - this can take awhile, but once it's done brew up a batch of your favorite beer with insane amounts of malt and hops and then pitch the yeast.

It'll be a crazy fermentation but when it's done you'll have your 20-30% rocket fuel beer. Sam Adams does this with their "Utopia" beer that costs like $1209831029 which is retarded.


Cheers!
 
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the risk is having it shipped


They wrap each bottle in bubble wrap, wrap those bottles with bubble wrap, line the box with bubble wrap, and fill the gaps with packing peanuts.


I couldn't see how a bottle would break unless the dudes are drop kicking the package and running over it with a forklift?
 
ahh okay,cool..just wondering,thought I'd ask since were on the topic of Alcohol,just wanted to see the two major differences from Good old beer & hard stuff of what it takes to brew.


on to the next question!.....If i was stuck on a island what is the best possible way to make alcohol???,I've only heard of one Kind of simple brew that everyone might know.....Some Oranges and Crackers..



juice the oranges,add the crackers in there (since it contains yeast)..put it in a jar of some kind...let it sit there and formant??..

or is there a more simple way?....ps. heard this is how they make it in jail..hehe.
 
ahh okay,cool..just wondering,thought I'd ask since were on the topic of Alcohol,just wanted to see the two major differences from Good old beer & hard stuff of what it takes to brew.


on to the next question!.....If i was stuck on a island what is the best possible way to make alcohol???,I've only heard of one Kind of simple brew that everyone might know.....Some Oranges and Crackers..



juice the oranges,add the crackers in there (since it contains yeast)..put it in a jar of some kind...let it sit there and formant??..

or is there a more simple way?....ps. heard this is how they make it in jail..hehe.



If you're stuck on an island I would find fresh water first - you'll need it to recover from getting your silly @$$ drunk on wild beer. You'll also want to ensure you have shelter, some sort of food supply like mammals and vegetation to nourish you. If after satisfying your basic needs you are bored and want to get drunk I can offer some tips.

Find the most sugary fruit/vegetable possible.. if not I'd find something that was sweet and pray it could ferment. I would avoid anything with a lot of acid like citrus fruits since it will make an ultra sour beer, but you can use it.. Gather a lot since you might as well make as much as possible since it takes the same amount of time either way...

Mix whatever you recover and if you can, boil it down in your handmade boil kettle you constructed of tightly woven branches and twigs to concentrate the sugars and then stick it outside, uncovered, so wild yeast can find it's way in and ferment it for you. If you can't boil it, just stick it in some large container and set it outside uncovered. The beer won't be as strong as if you had boiled it down, but whatever - beggers can't be choosers right?

Once fermentation starts (You'll see some wicked foamy stuff bubbling away at the surface) cover with some sort of dead animal skin you've recovered the night before. Make sure it's clean and well shaved so hair doesn't get in it. Tie it down with some seaweed you found while fishing, poke a small hole to vent CO2 gasses. It's important from this point forward that the mixture not be exposed to too much light - since you're brewing crap with crap you'd at least like as best tasting crap as possible, right? Sun is also damaging to yeast so if your not getting fermentation it's because you left the damn container on the beach again. Tuck it somewhere in the shade, as cool as possible.

Eat the crackers, you need the nourishment. Besides, sticking crackers in it is ridiculous, the yeast has been baked and therefore is no longer viable - if they got fermentation it wasn't because of the crackers but some other reaction be it bacterial or wild yeast.


Prison hooch is also retarded... I don't care how bad jail is, nothing will ever get me to choke down a bunch of rotted fruit juice that's literally swimming with bacterial infection. It'll clean your colon out just fine but it'll taste like your colon every last drop. You'll be lucky if you get drunk.
 
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brewing an IPA right now:scat:

Hey! What's your brewery look like?

Here's my garage setup, you can see my Kratos PSP on the dresser.. I watch movies/listen to music/browse interwebs while I'm waiting as there seems to be a lot of... Tales From The Crypt episodes are frequently my viewing choice:scat::

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The crap I set on my fridge. The Miller Lite you see was the ashtray for my cuban cigar - the ADAYAFTER fridge holds two corny kegs and also keeps my Westvleteren 12's at proper temp - when I start lagering that thing will be my lager fridge, it can EASILY drop to less than 20 degrees if I wanted to:

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And here's my burners, the one on the right is my new beastie that puts out 210k BTUs:
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Generally I try to brew in a concentration for 10 gallon batches and split it between 2 fermenters when I experiment so I can try two different yeasts on the same recipe as well as how I ferment them warm or cold to try different profiles of the same yeast strain... Little more expensive per batch but I mean hey.. when its all said and done I get 10 gallons of beer no matter what.

now you go take pics of yours since I showed you mine!
 
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